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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 86.140.213.156
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 - 01:48 pm:   

I couldn't see a thread here to discuss Fiction Collaborations. I guess they are out of fashion?

A tentative long-term project of mine started yesterday regarding my fiction collaborations with several auspicious writers at the turn of the last century: http://nullimmortalis.wordpress.com/2012/09/25/long-term-project-to-find-an-inde pendent-publisher-for-a-selection-of-my-collaborations-from-yesteryear/
(Meanwhile, I am confidently expecting all the collabs with Tim Lebbon (DON'T EAT MONSTERS) and with Margaret B Simon to be two separate idependent publications, as was BUSY BLOOD recently with Stuart Hughes.)
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.232.244.38
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 - 02:34 pm:   

Good luck with this, Des - I look forward to seeing them in print!

Can I ask, how *do* you collaborate on a story? Writing seems such a personal thing to me I just can't imagine how two people can get inside each others' heads and write a story together. Do you simply send drafts back and forth until you both decide on the best one? If so, wouldn't it just end up being a compromise - not necessarily the best work? But then the collaborations I've seen are all excellent, so that surely doesn't happen? I'm not sure how this works.

When I think of collaborative stories I always think of Mick Sims and Len Maynard who write together as the single "entity" Maynard Sims.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 86.140.213.156
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 - 02:41 pm:   

The way I've always worked was someone starting - without a forward plan made known by either of us - and continuing in turn until one of us decided he or she had finished it.Then polishing and possibly 'reconciling' by the one who had finished it.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 92.8.28.207
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 - 02:44 pm:   

I'm no good at it - probably control of the material means too much to me. I was very impressed by Gary and Simon's recent collaboration. Indeed, those who were there on Saturday night saw them briefly merge into a single indescribable shape before the audience.
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Mbfg (Mbfg)
Username: Mbfg

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 62.255.207.128
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 11:04 am:   

I'm collaborating on a text book for Pearson Educational (my third collaboration with them) but I know it's not quite the same because each author writes separate chapters. There is, of course, a need for constant communication because chapter subjects overlap etc. I'd love, however, to collaborate with you Des. It would be an interesting experience because our styles are quite divergent.
Cheers
Terry
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.232.244.38
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 12:14 pm:   

Oh yes! A Lewis/Grimwood collaboration would be awesome!

Thanks for your thoughts on this, folks. I find it interesting. I don't think I could collaborate on a story like that - I'm probably like Ramsey in that I need to feel complete control over what I'm doing. The only time I've collaborated on writing something has been academic papers with a work colleague, who became a good friend. We're still good friends - but the papers did lead to arguments and friction at the time. We got them published though!
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 86.140.213.156
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 03:09 pm:   

**Disturbing Fiction Collaborations with DF Lewis** A SELECTION
(working title HIRAETH) (stories written and published at the Turn of the Century). The list is complete below and the manuscript prepared, although there may be one or two more should I be able to contact the writers involved. If anyone knows a publisher who would be interested in putting these into a book....

The Sound of Children – Anthea Holland (fantasque 2000)
Variations on the Vile – Richard Gavin (Book of Dark Wisdom 2003)
Knuckledraggers, Inc. – John Travis (The Zone 1999)
Popper’s in the Wine – P.F. Jeffery (Lateral Moves 1998)
In the Belly of the Snake – Paul Pinn (The Edge 1996)
I Consume That of the Edge of Exquisite Taste – Craig Sernotti (Not Dead, But Dreaming 1997)
The London Fairground – Allen Ashley (The Heliograph 1999)
Harvest Time – Gordon Lewis (Enigmatic Tales 2000)
Three Suns For Yesterday – Jeff Holland (shown on-line)
Don’t Drown the Man Who Taught You to Swim – David Mathew (Redsine 2002, Paranoid Landscapes 2006)
The Fat Bat – Scott Urban (Octobyr 1998)
Tale With Unknown Collaborator – Carlton Mellick (shown on-line)
The Slippery Pearls – Mike Philbin/Hertzan Chimera (Masque 1995)
NITS – Paul Bradshaw (Voyage 1999)
Tungus – Jeff Holland (Rictus 1995)
The Shoal – Lawrence Dyer (shown on-line)
The Moon Pool – M.F. Korn (Eraserhead Press 2001)
The Quest of the Mouther – Rhys Hughes (Visions 1997)
The Swimming Pool – Tony Mileman
Disaffected Blood – David Price (Unhinged 2000)
Tiny Hooks and Dainty Door-Keys – Mark McLaughlin (Flesh & Blood 2003)
Mary’s Broken House – Dominy Clements (shown on-line)
The Winged Menace – John B Ford (The Evil Entwines 2002)
This Flight Tonight – Gary Couzens (Substance 1994, Second Contact 2003)
Remission – Anthea Holland (Roadworks 1996)
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 86.140.213.156
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 05:06 pm:   

PS: The multiple collabs with Stuart Hughes (already published as BUSY BLOOD) , with Tim Lebbon (to be published as LET'S EAT MONSTERS) and with Marge Simon (to be announced)...
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 86.147.86.41
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 08:48 am:   

wh
I have preserved these multi-collaborations in a paperback book:
http://www.lulu.com/shop/d-f-lewis/wordhunger/paperback/product-20476726.html

Still looking for an independent publisher for HIRAETH. I have not approached anyone specifically yet. http://dflcollaborations.wordpress.com/
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Paul_finch (Paul_finch)
Username: Paul_finch

Registered: 11-2009
Posted From: 92.5.44.232
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 07:06 pm:   

I like the idea of a collab collection - maybe one of the publishers who regularly come on here could run with it: The 'Twins of Evil' series. Two authors per book, perhaps contributing six new stories each?

But collab'ing on a story is hard work. I've done it once and, though I was okay with the finished product, I've never done it since and probably never will again.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 86.130.96.10
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 09:22 am:   

Very pleased and proud to announce that Jason E. Rolfe’s BIBLIOMANCY will be publishing in 2013:

‘THE HORN’S LAST RITE’
by Des Lewis and Marge Simon
- fiction collaborations conducted transatlantically by paper post in the early nineteen nineties.
Illustrated *today* by Marge Simon.

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This is in addition to my collaborations with Tim Lebbon over a similar period, already announced as being published by STUMAR PRESS in 2013 and entitlted LET'S EAT MONSTERS.

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Meanwhile, I am still seeking a publisher for my many other different one-to-one collaborations during the same period: HIRAETH: http://dflcollaborations.wordpress.com/

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Wordhunger Multi-Collaborations published here: http://www.lulu.com/shop/d-f-lewis/wordhunger/paperback/product-20476726.html

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and Collaborations with Stuart Hughes entitled BUSY BLOOD here: http://exaggeratedpress.weebly.com/busy-blood.html
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Collaborations with my late father: ONLY CONNECT - and - A MAN TOO MEAN TO BE ME: http://nemonymous123456.wordpress.com/megazanthus-press/

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