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     Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.177.118.49 |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8178676.stm | ||
| Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.68 |
Uh. | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.218.116 |
Rock 'n' Roll! I thought Scott was going to adapt THE FOREVER WAR, though. Presumably that's delayed now. | ||
| Steve Bacon (Stevebacon) Username: Stevebacon Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 90.210.209.169 |
Full circle. After that, the new Hovis ad. | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.246.46 |
I posted this earlier below - and like I said there, judging by the screenwriter and director?... definitely something to wait and hope for! | ||
| Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.69 |
I thought the Forever War was going to be a TV thing. | ||
| Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.69 |
Maybe the PreAlien will use the same techniques Moon apparantly uses, and go back to model-making and sparing use of CGI. The first Alien movie was sort of the last hurrah of that late 60s to early 80s thoughtful SF movie that went from 2001 through Silent Running and Outlander to 2010 and Alien (Blade Runner too). Then the big fantasy SF took over. I hope Moon is the herald or a return to thoughtful, non-blasty up SF. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.177.118.49 |
We'll just have to hope Scott's not been talking to his brother much, then. | ||
| Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.21.234.133 |
I sincerely hope he'll leave the Predators out of the equation. | ||
| Steve Bacon (Stevebacon) Username: Stevebacon Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 90.210.209.169 |
Otherwise they'll definitely hear my screams in space. | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.196.140 |
Ridley Scott : Tony Scott Jonathan Ross : Paul Ross I was in email contact for a bit with one of the model makers of the Nostromo. He sent me some photos from the set and I sent him a piece of a genuine spacecraft that carried an experiment I worked on in my research. Nice chap. | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.196.140 |
Am I alone in thinking that MOON was unsatisfying in that it had an underdeveloped script which ran out of plot half way through? | ||
| Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.21.234.133 |
I love the Nostromo! I remember seeing it on screen for the first time. I went to see Alien with my father who's an avid sf reader and we simultaneously said wow. Some see the ship as a relatively small tug towing a huge refinery, but I always saw the cathedral-like structure as part of the ship. | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 89.19.88.97 |
It's one of the great locations in film history, I think. I do hope that the new film will take its time. ALIEN is much more interesting in its first half when it's building the world and its atmosphere than in its second. | ||
| Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.73 |
I agree. There's a shortage of folk taking their time in films these days. Haven't seen Moon so can't comment. Doomed failure project of the moment is more likely the one facing the poor guy who has to make the new version of The Rockford Files work. | ||
| Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.73 |
'I sent him a piece of a spacecraft'... So now we know what happened with Beagle 2... | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.215.1 |
Turns out everything little bit of that thing actually did something. Who would have thunk it? | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.215.1 |
Sigh. Why don't I ever proof read my own messages. | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.215.1 |
This was it. No warp drive. Bit rubbish, really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Duration_Exposure_Facility | ||
| Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.74 |
Justin, that's nothing to be dismissive of. I had a huge flush of 'sense of wonder' looking at those images and reading the mission history. Well done, sir! | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.204.82 |
Oh, good! | ||
| Niki Flynn (Niki) Username: Niki Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.32.69.29 |
"Am I alone in thinking that MOON was unsatisfying in that it had an underdeveloped script which ran out of plot half way through?" I'm just back from seeing it today and I didn't find it unsatisfying at all! I'm delighted to see that "the cerebral, grownup strand of sci-fi" (quoth the Guardian) hasn't died. This was a film more about character than plot. Like a PKD-written episode of the original Twilight Zone - intriguing and affecting. Oh, and an eerie soundtrack by Clint Mansell, of Requiem for a Dream fame. I'll be getting the CD! | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.163.6.13 |
Has anyone read that William Gibson script for an aliens movie thats around on the net? That older initial idea that Scott and Cameron had together, with the Alien home planet plot/ earth is overrun was also great, but at the time I think they thought it would cost 600 mil. dollars to make (before the wide use of CGI). Going back to a prequel however is not a bad idea, showing how that ship from Alien was overrun etc. As long as Scott does it, then fine I think- I thought I read that initially Scott didn't want to do it, he was suggesting some other director, and it was a no go from Fox. Well as long as it doesn't look like a perfume commercial. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.177.118.49 |
...or a Hovis ad... | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.163.6.13 |
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| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 147.252.230.126 |
More sci-fi from Riddles! http://io9.com/5059265/ridley-scott-confirms-hes-making-brave-new-world | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.195.68 |
Hey now, this is interesting. Promise. I've been thinking about why ALIEN works so well and I think it's because it's PSYCHO. - Both spend almost half their running times slowly introducing us to their carefully constructed worlds. - Someone is diverted from their original journey to a remote, rainy destination. - Sexual symbolism awakens the first, sudden act of violence. - The ostensibly "lead" character (Marion Crane / Dallas) is killed early on. - Lila Crane enters a chamber to talk to mother. She makes a horrific discovery and is interrupted by someone crazed who is unmasked while attacking her. - Ripley enters a chamber to talk to Mother. She makes a horrific discovery and is interrupted by someone crazed who is unmasked while attacking her. I'm not a huge proponent of Joseph Campbell's template idea, but this is at least a fun parlour game. | ||
| Joel (Joel) Username: Joel Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 91.110.244.19 |
A common source, Proto: the alien abduction story, exemplified by Lovecraft's 'The Whisperer in Darkness'. ALIEN and Lovecraft have obvious preoccupations in common – but Bloch is writing a psychological analogue of an alien abduction story, which creates a uniquely disturbing blend of styles. | ||
| Chris_morris (Chris_morris) Username: Chris_morris Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 98.220.186.44 |
I thought Ridley Scott was supposed to be directing BLOOD MERIDIAN? | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.254.25 |
Fascinating. As well, and/or according to this, Proto... http://collativelearning.com/alien%20analysis.html ... ALIEN's predominantly a parable of birth trauma. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.132.170.85 |
I think this one is right. I think it's about the terror of life. | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 147.252.230.126 |
"Bloch is writing a psychological analogue of an alien abduction story" Even if you buy that (and I'm not sure that I do), the similarities are too specific. You're right though in saying that Bloch is the connective tissue (has that become a cliche yet?) between the two pieces. But the route is so circuitous: PSYCHO <-> Bloch <-> Lovecraft <-> Giger <-> ALIEN that it's surely more likely that Scott / O'Bannon / Giler were channelling Hitchcock, probably unconsciously. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.132.170.85 |
I think possibly they were just channelling themselves, as Hitch was, and Bloch too, et all. I think Alien is pretty deep stuff. That's why the sequels just didn't sit right, largely. |