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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 12:37 am:   

I've just watched this extraordinary French film, and, well...it blew me away. I saw it cold, with no expectations or idea what it was about, and as the film progressed I found it shocking (the first film in years that's actually shocked me), gruelling, intense, yet oddly beautiful.

Some of you will love it; an equal amount of you will hate it. I'd be fascinated to hear people's views.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 01:15 am:   

I've had that sitting here for a few weeks. Looking forward to seeing it but just waiting 'til the right time. Or when the stars are right...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:38 am:   

I slept badly last night thinking about the film, Mick - bad dreams, troubled rest. Any film which does that to me must be some kind of masterpiece.
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:46 am:   

I saw it recently and had a very hard time with it. Fascinating story, excellent acting by the two female leads, but the torture scenes were almost too much for me. I felt physically ill at times and kept looking at the DVD counter, waiting for it to end so I could take a shower and wash the film off me! It really unsettled me and, weeks later, there are certain images I can't get out of my head.

I can't say I *liked* it, but it's certainly a powerful film. Very well made and worth seeing if you can take it.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:50 am:   

... er, that's it for me, then. I'm taking it off my Netflix queue.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 10:09 am:   

Pascal Laugier was supposed to direct the Hellraiser remake.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 10:27 am:   

I thought it was an excellent film. Unpredictable, disturbing, gruelling and fantastically well done.
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Alansjf (Alansjf)
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Registered: 09-2008
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 10:32 am:   

The most disturbing thing about Martyrs is the prospect of a Hollywood remake ...

But it is powerful stuff. It's a couple of months since I watched it, and I'm still not sure how I feel about the second half, but the first half, primarily due to Mylene Jampanoi's stunning performance as Lucie, is brilliant and genuinely terrifying. In fact I was far more disturbed by the psychological horrors of the first half than the graphic, physical horrors later on; the 'creature' that attacks Lucie is one of the most frightening creations I've seen for a long time, especially once you come to understand who/what the creature is.
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Joel (Joel)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   

Remarkable film, yes. It is to torture porn what LAST TANGO IN PARIS is to soft porn. Very serious, very intelligent, very hard to watch. The shift in gear, just when you think the film is pretty well over, takes your breath away. MARTYRS is rather like the product of a collaboration between Clive Barker and Amnesty International.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 02:08 pm:   

The shift in gear, just when you think the film is pretty well over, takes your breath away.

Oh, yes. I agree totally. The film is almost the anti-hostel. It shows up both the Hostel and Saw films for the buffoonish cartoons they really are.

I've just written a review of the film for The Zone. I'll link it here when it goes live.
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 04:35 pm:   

I liked it. I'm glad I saw it. I don't want to watch it again.
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John (John)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:55 pm:   

I thought it started intriguingly enough - frightening set-up, a few startling twists and turns. Then about halfway through it descended into torture porn tedium - with added pretension. Overall I was left pretty bored by the whole experience, and disappointed in the collapse of the second half.

There just didn't seem to be any substance there.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
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Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 10:10 pm:   

There were those that made it through the third act, and those that didn't, when I screened it for friends. It is a devastating film for sure. That 'revelation', that so called 'rationalizing' speech, takes this film to a whole other level. Impossible to forget. Its power was certainly also in the way the narrative was constructed, and then there was all the rest to deal with.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 12:16 am:   

There just didn't seem to be any substance there.

Wow, you and I are at complete opposite ends of the spectrum on this one. For me, there was substance aplenty.
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
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Posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 08:49 am:   

Substance aplenty indeed! More substance than in any recent horror film I've seen, in fact. Twisted substance, sure, but the motivation for torture is probably the most thought-provoking and fascinating I've ever come across.
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John (John)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 09:30 am:   

Wow, you and I are at complete opposite ends of the spectrum on this one.

Fraid so. I thought its attempts at depth were laughable; the motives for torture barely conceived and poorly justified.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 09:43 am:   

Horses for courses; I thought it was a minor masterpiece.
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 09:50 am:   

I haven't seen this, and I'm not sure if I will, but after you guys got me interested, I googled it and found mention of another French horror film mentioned alongside it, which sounds very promising. The movie is called 'Inside'. Has anyone seen it?
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 01:02 pm:   

A L'interieur - does sound very good. A friend of mine recommends it highy.

Not seen it myself yet.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 02:00 pm:   

Inside is meant to be excellent, but I've not yet seen it.
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 04:37 pm:   

INSIDE is gory and intense, but (for me anyway) it doesn't have the impact of MARTYRS. On the other hand, it does have Béatrice Dalle, who is becoming a kind of blood-drenched scream queen.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 11:15 am:   

My spoiler-free review of MARTYRS: http://www.zone-sf.com/screenscene/martyrs1.html
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 12:43 pm:   

Chris I agree with what you write about INSIDE. It doesn't have the impact of Martyrs at all.
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 05:10 pm:   

Zed, your review is just right, I think. Well done. (Although, to be fair, I think you liked MARTYRS more than I did.)
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 06:05 pm:   

Thanks, Chris.

Yep, there's something wired wrong in my head: I absolutely adore bleak and upsetting films. They justify my depressive tendancies.
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 07:27 pm:   

Well, there's bleak and then there's bleak. I was impressed by MARTYRS, but films like that are so bleak they strike me these days as exaggerated, overcynical: as far away from reality as Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm. The older I get, the less interested I am in such posturing -- and it does strike me as posturing -- but I am aware of the fact that this is probably a matter of age and not taste. Ten years ago, I'll wager, I would have unreservedly loved MARTYRS, and the 31-year-old that lives inside me is sort of happy that you like it so much.

I'm not sure if that makes any sense, and I apologize if it doesn't. I don't mean to imply that an appreciation for movies like MARTYRS is a sign of immaturity, just that age does weird things to people. As a young man I became aware that people change all the time: you're a different "you" every day. I recall being frustrated by this -- on one day I wanted to be an engineer, say, and on another, a teacher. What no one told me then was that those different "you"s don't always add up -- they don't necessarily converge -- and age and experience offer no solutions to this problem. These days things are more complex: My awareness of this problem means that on any given day the "you" I am can strike me as an imposter. Which "you" is the real you? The older I get, then, the less sure I am of my own true feelings about anything.
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 07:28 pm:   

Forgive me for taking this thread -- and my last post -- to a weird place. I'm having a strange day.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 10:37 pm:   

I've just turned 40, and the older I get the more I enjoy these kind of bleak, depressing, pretentious films - to me, the less realistic they are, the closer to reality they get. I know that makes no sense, but it makes perfect sense to me.

Lately I also love completely barmy films, with no linear plot and no apparent sense to them. I used to hate films like that when I was a younger man, but now I seek them out.

I used to be able to watch stuff like, say, Richard Curtis films and just shrug; these days I want to burn the negative of such films and piss on the ashes.

And of course people change all the time - we are all different people every day, and to different people. Human beings are simply a bunch of masks; a series of such imposters. Scratch them all away, and you are left with...nothing.

I'm having a weird day, too. I have lots of them these days. :-/

Anyway...tonight I'm watching "Frontiers".
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 01:04 am:   

"Frontiers" is a bit mental... gruelling and intense, but too daft to be taken seriously. I rather enjoyed it.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 01:26 am:   

Have you seen Borderland, Zed?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 01:35 am:   

I haven't, Huw, but it looks interesting - like an extreme horror version of "race with the Devil". Is it any good?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 01:51 am:   

I wvwn liked "Calvaire"
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 02:00 am:   

even
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 02:59 am:   

I did a write-up on 'Frontiers' somewhere on this board I think, but have no clue where. I liked it very much. It was completely mental in the right way. Very intense!

I just saw a film called '13 Tzameti'. Low budget B&W film from 2005 by a Georgian director-his debut film. It was truly amazing. There is a central Russian Roulette scene with fifteen men, simultaniously!- never seen anything like it. A thriller and a black comedy. It was extraordinary. The tension and black comedy just mounts and mounts to an absurdity. I think it won something at Sundance in 05. And now I read that it is being remade in the US with Rourke.

Here is the trailer. It speaks for itself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jn0_ugqco
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 04:30 am:   

I've seen that one, Karim. Very good stuff. I've recommended it to many friends.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 04:46 am:   

Yes, I agree about 13 Tzameti - good stuff.

Zed, I thought Borderlands was better than your average contemporary horror film (I know that sounds like faint praise). It shares similar themes with films like Hostel, Turistas and even The Ruins, but is better than most of them, perhaps due to it being based on real events that happened on the US-Mexican border in the late 80s, involving kidnapping, drug smuggling and black magic. It was harrowing in places, disturbing and pretty well acted and directed. Sean Astin was good in an unusual role as a slimy villain. The documentary (about the true story behind the events in the film) was at least as good as the film itself, I thought. It's definitely worth a look - I think you'd probably like it.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 10:03 am:   

Just ordered 13 Tzameti for £3.99. :-)
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:30 pm:   

The first act of Tzameti isn't quite so strong, but then it really just takes off, surprisingly so.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 09:25 pm:   

I've just turned 40, and the older I get the more I enjoy these kind of bleak, depressing, pretentious films - to me, the less realistic they are, the closer to reality they get. I know that makes no sense, but it makes perfect sense to me.

Interesting you say that. I watched a very bleak and relentless French zombie picture at FrightFest and I actually got so sick of the relentless nihilism it became laughable. By the time the ultra-downbeat ending hit all I could think was 'Oh for heaven's sake. You're not clever. There's more to life than this'.

And I'm probably in trouble now because there's a review embargo on it until next year apparently.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 11:13 pm:   

I'm half way through re-watching THE DRILLER KILLER for the first time in two decades...it's actually a very good film indeed.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 11:13 pm:   

Just thought I'd share that. :-)
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 05:21 am:   

"Interesting you say that. I watched a very bleak and relentless French zombie picture at FrightFest and I actually got so sick of the relentless nihilism it became laughable. By the time the ultra-downbeat ending hit all I could think was 'Oh for heaven's sake. You're not clever. There's more to life than this'."

I have to say, John, I have the same reaction to a lot of films these days.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 09:21 am:   

You should be more choosy, Huw. ;-)
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Lincoln Brown (Lincoln_brown)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 09:52 am:   

***************Minor Spoiler******************



The scene where they throw/kick/roll the bodies into the ditch was devatsating.


Zed, have you seen the film 'Mr In-between'?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 10:01 am:   

Is that the scene in MARTYRS?

Haven't seen MR IN-BETWEEN - is it any good?
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Lincoln Brown (Lincoln_brown)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 10:46 am:   

"Is that the scene in MARTYRS?" - yes mate. From memory it was at the end of the first act.

'Mr In-between' is a Brit horror/crime film. - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280962/

Very bleak - right up your alley!
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 11:36 am:   

Zed, I love horror, so I if I see an interesting looking horror film I usually rent it (or buy it, more rarely). Some of them are well worth the time, but there are so many bad ones about, it's hard to avoid them! Now and then a really good one pops up and surprises me - Borderland wasn't bad, I thought, and I quite liked The Ruins. I haven't seen Martyrs yet.

I'm all for bleakness, by the way, if it's done well (Rec. is a good example). I hate trendy bleakness, though - Rob Zombie comes to mind as someone I have very little time for.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 11:39 am:   

Rob Zombie isn't bleak. He's just a talentless hack. he throws blood at the camera and a lot of swearing and thinks that's the same as atmosphere.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 11:39 am:   

I'm with Huw here - I loved [Rec] which was a bleak zombie picture but the other movie 'La Horde' I just got tired of, almost as if it was trying really, really hard to be the bleakest zombie picture you've ever seen
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Joel (Joel)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   

I can't wait to get my hands on a copy...
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Joel (Joel)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 01:18 pm:   

Did we love 30 DAYS OF NIGHT by the way? I don't recall RCMB discussion of it, but I often ignore threads on films I haven't seen in case they reveal too much. Anyway I caught up with 30 DAYS quite recently and thought it a stunning, weird, passionate chiller with massive atmospheric impact despite the lead vampire looking like a hungover Neil Tennant.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 01:48 pm:   

Please tell me you're joking, Joel - I hated 30 Days of Night! I'd rather watch my
Near Dark DVD again, frankly. It did have one good scene, though.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 02:18 pm:   

I liked it. Even the second time. :-)

The lead vampire looks like Mark Deniz, of Morrigan Books.
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 06:02 pm:   

The lead vampire is Danny Huston.

Huw - I promise not to generalize or fight, but did you like Near Dark?
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 09:08 pm:   

I hated 30 Days of Night & posted a review on the old RCMB site that is now up on the Gray Friar website. Seeing as both Zed & Joel liked it (!!!???) I may have to revisit it but I really thought it was lacking.
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 10:55 pm:   

Lord Probert - And Near Dark?

Don't tell me I'm the only one who liked it???
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 10:56 pm:   

I wasn't too fond of the 30 days film I remember. But the atmosphere was pretty faithful to the comic. Didn't the lead vampire look like the vocalist from Rammstein? I only saw it once on the big screen, maybe I should rent it again and take another look. I loved the first two arcs of the comics.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 05:13 am:   

Frank, I love Near Dark! Great movie.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 09:17 pm:   

Yes - Near Dark's very good!
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 10:20 pm:   

Huw/Lord P - I haven't seen Near Dark in years, but I love that film. My favourite Bigelow film.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 10:23 pm:   

NEAR DARK is excellent, and suffered greatly by being released around the same time as LOST BOYS, which must have had a greater publicity budget, as it was by far the worst of the two (imho of course!).
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 10:25 pm:   

...despite the lead vampire looking like a hungover Neil Tennant.

Just what I thought on watching it! I really liked 30 DAYS OF NIGHT, in the same way I love Carpenter's THE FOG - it's (heaven forbid) a fun and almost cosy horror film.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 02:01 pm:   

Guess what was on telly last night...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 02:02 pm:   

My favourite Bigelow film.

I'd probably agree, but BLUE STEEL gives it a close race. Oh, and STRANGE DAYS is also a bit good (almost great).
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 02:02 pm:   

ps - her new film, THE HURT LOCKER, is meant to be remarkable.
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.185.25
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 05:49 pm:   

Zed, The Hurt Locker looks superb! I can't wait to see it - my nephew was raving about it when he dropped by to visit me the other day. I don't think I've seen Blue Steel.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 213.158.199.88
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 07:08 pm:   

Blue Steel is very good, but the horror fan in me puts ND first. Strange Days was mauled to death critically, but I thought it was great. I even liked The Widow Maker.

My friend saw the Hurt Locker and said it was technically dazzling, but was affronted at it's cliches and two dimensional characters. But to be fair if it's a film about American soldiers in Iraq and they aren't being portrayed as bloody thirsty psychopaths, and if the film isn't a direct attack on the former administration, he's never satisfied. I see where he's coming from, but I don't think this film is that type of film. Whether it should be politically and morally responsible for its subject matter is for another thread.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 01:17 am:   

Just watched 13 Tzameti - thanks for recommending it, chaps. I thought it was an absolute gem of a film. Quite brilliant, really.

It put me in mind of what I've read about Johnny Depp's supressed directorial debut, "The Brave". Now there's a film I'd love to see, too.
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
Username: Chris_morris

Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 12.165.240.116
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 04:04 pm:   

I've never seen THE BRAVE, but I've read the novel it's based on (by Gregory McDonald, famous as the author of -- of all things-- the FLETCH comedic mysteries). The book is very powerful indeed. I see a thematic connection between the book and 13 TZAMETI, but I think they're different animals, really. Nonetheless, I recommend both.

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