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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.7.50
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 02:35 pm:   

Firstly, a great effort - some very accomplished stuff on here and some really nice songwriting. Plus, it's very nicely presented - all very professional! The same goes for the sound - on my humungous super-duper-annoy-the-neighbours hifi the recording sounds, for the most part, very good indeed, and it's quite astonishing how good a song can sound, even though it's "only" been recorded in a regular room in a regular house, and mastered on a PC (or so I believe - I've stood in gcw's recording room several times and presumed he used the PC there, but you never know!).

The tracks...

1) - A Parallelogram of Suitcases - for me the most difficult song to assess - the writing is more than fine, but at times during the more complex parts of the song I feel I can't quite follow the way things are going. However, this may not necessarily be the fault of the track - sometimes in the past I've felt this on listening once or twice to new music, and then it sort of clicks into place. Thsi only happens rarely though! I will listen to this a little more to try to ascertain whether it's me or not.

2) - Happiness - I feel daft saying this, as I know it's gcw's favourite track on the EP, but it's mine too. I love the simplicity of the track and the lyrics - it reminded me slightly, before gcw's voice comes in, of something the Penguin Cafe Orchestra would do.

3) - Old Unenthusiastic Boy - another more complex one but this time I think gcw's really pulled it off well. I feel I'm repeating myself saying it, but the lyrics are again good. And finally...

4) - Piano Moments - another deceptively simple track, with just vocals and piano, but a really nice closer for the EP.

In order of (my) preference, then:-

Happiness
Piano Moments/Old Unenthusiastic Boy (can't make my mind up!)
A Parallelogram of Suitcases

I will have a few more listens over the next few days and see if my opinion changes. Don't take this wrongly, though - there's nothing bad here at all; if anything, I'm being overly picky and typing out things as I think them. I'd heartily recommend anyone here interested to splash out on a copy - it's a nice taster of the album to come, and a healthy sign that gcw's talents and skills are moving forward well.
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Gcw (Gcw)
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Posted From: 86.156.38.102
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 06:10 pm:   

Thanks Mickster!

I know I can always rely on you for a healthy honest opinion EVEN IF YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG ABOUT THE TITLE TRACK!!!!

(...:-))

gcw
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted From: 217.171.129.74
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 11:31 pm:   

A Parallelogram of Suitcases sounds a tongue twisting lyric. Heck of a rhyme you must've made for that 'un, mate. (Got your email ta and will reply shortly.)

Know any rhymes for rhinocerus? I once read about a songwriter who was stuck for a rhyme for it. Best I could think of was a cheat: because of us.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted From: 194.106.220.19
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 12:44 am:   

In THE WIZARD OF OZ they used "ipmosserus"!
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted From: 217.171.129.72
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 07:19 am:   

That's an even bigger cheat!
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted From: 86.176.7.50
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 12:36 pm:   

...should have been "imposserus"...
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
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Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 02:11 pm:   

Tricoceros - small genus of small orchids from tropical South America

Loutropheros - ancient greek or roman water jar characterised by a long neck and flared opening

Strepiceros - a breed of African antelope.

Will they do you?
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted From: 217.171.129.73
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 02:17 pm:   

Doesn't scan as well as the lines to Tommy Steele's 'Little White Bull', does it?
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 02:31 pm:   

As majestic as a rhinoceros
as pretty as a tricoceroros
As svelte as a strepiceros
have some wine from my loutropheros


Maybe not perfect, but there's something there...
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 02:57 pm:   

I'm tempted to give up the day job to concentrate on my poetry... but I think it might be a bit risky...
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Gcw (Gcw)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 06:44 pm:   

I didn't need to rhyme it...

"A parallelogram of suitcases sitting in the hall,
I don't think I can lift one, let alone lift them all..."

gcw
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 09:33 pm:   

I listened to this couple of times last night, and you know what... I'm really liking it.

1) - A Parallelogram of Suitcases: an ambitious tune, some nice lyrics, and I love the banjo sound and hand-clapping. Catchy, but not in a twee way.

2) - Happiness: Like Mick, I really like the simplicity of the track. It's sweet,tender, and quirky. GCW's voice is great here; really suits the song.

3) - Old Unenthusiastic Boy: this one has a nice 1970s feel, like a folky rock song. There's always a touch of The Wonderstuff to it. Another winner for me. Possibly my favourite on the album. Actually, it's definitely my favourite.

4) - Piano Moments: a lovely closing track. The piano sounds terrific, and once again the vocal is strong. I adore the chorus.

All in all, GCW's best effort yet. it's staying on my MP3 player, if that counts for anything.

Oh, and Soozy's backing vocals are lovely. You have such a sweet singing voice, m'dear.
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Soozy (Soozy)
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Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 03:28 pm:   

Thanks Zed...I made him bury them deep so no one could tell it was me!
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Gcw (Gcw)
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Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 09:20 pm:   

I have had the wench singing again today - on a single I have been asked to produce for Rob Duig a friend of mine.

Girl done good...

gcw
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Mark West (Mark_west)
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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 12:54 am:   

I’ve already told Gary my views, but thought I’d join in here. Overall, I was very impressed, it sounded crisp and clear and was very professionally done. My favourites would be “Old Unenthusiastic Boy” (good lyrics, excellent harmonies, nice mouth organ) and “Piano Moments” (deceptively simple and really quite lovely).

Well done, Gary - and well done with the backing vocals and handclaps, Soozy
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Gcw (Gcw)
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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 01:45 pm:   

Thanks Mark, Zed and all other reviewers!

It's mind-boggling how different people like different things.. F'instance the title track was getting a lukewarm reception until Zed said he liked it, and then Lord P. kindly emailed me and said the same.

'Old Unenthusiastic Boy' seems to be the most popular so far, and indeed it is most 'typical' gcw song for those who enjoyed 'The Changes' album.

But as anyone who knows me will know, I don't repeat styles too often and to repeat yourself to please others means creative stagnation to me!

Keep the reviews coming folks - Cheers!

gcw
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted From: 80.229.90.65
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 01:59 pm:   

I've had the CD on while I've been writing!

Mind you, the things I've been writing
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Gcw (Gcw)
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Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 02:21 pm:   

...Roots from the underworld coming up from the ground Lord P..?:-)

gcw
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Gcw (Gcw)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 07:48 pm:   

..Wow. this is a headfuck.

I have never made such a controversial song as 'A parallelogram Of Suitcases'.

The comments I have received on this bloody song! -I had no idea it would divide opinion so much.

It has been alternately: -

1/Loved
2/Loathed
3/Mixed well
4/Mixed badly
5/Tambourine out of time
6/Tambourine in time
7/Drums too loud
8/Drums ok.
9/ Title makes no sense - this is a problem.
10/Title makes no sense - this isn't a problem.

Hmmm. I guess I am gonna have to make an executive decision on this one.

It's brilliant.

gcw
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 08:42 pm:   

Put some names to the comments, gcw!

Mick "No. 5" Curtis
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Gcw (Gcw)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 12:20 am:   

It is what it is, i'm done with it.

gcw
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 01:15 am:   

It is indeed what it is - and a very good effort too. Looking forward to the album...
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Mark West (Mark_west)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 11:43 am:   

Agreed, Mick (Mark - No.7), when's the album due?
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Gcw (Gcw)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 08:31 pm:   

January Mark, - Lord willing & the creek don' rise.

gcw
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 09:19 pm:   

I'm back from the Peak District now, GCW. You'll hear from me shortly.
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Gcw (Gcw)
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Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 09:44 pm:   

It's in the post tomorrow Lynchy! - Thanks.

gcw
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted From: 62.254.173.34
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 12:50 pm:   

Okay, I’ve been listening to the Parallelogram EP on and off the last week or so. Bearing in mind I’m as musical as a tone deaf fish and have a ringing note in my head from when I managed to fall backwards down a flight of stairs, here’s my initial thoughts on the tracks:



“A Parallelogram of Suitcases”

The controversial one. Righty, let’s get in about it . . . It’s actually a decent song, I think, alas not as brilliantly executed as the tracks on GCW’s previous recordings. Nothing wrong with the guitar and GCW’s singing and the song itself. In fact the more you hear it, the better the song becomes. But I think the vocal starts too soon; it should’ve had a bit of a longer guitar pluckin’ intro. You’re thrown too quickly into it and never quite catch your breath because of that.

The hollow banging of the drum is out of time, possibly because of its echo; might’ve been better off doing it electronically and sampling the beat, narrowing its echo to fit the timing of the song. The tambourines or castanets or whatever they are are also being played out of time. But the thundering drums come in wonderfully, along with electric guitar and handclaps.

Give it a longer intro, get the cymbal things in time, and either lose the hollow bongy drum thing and you’ve got a really, really good song.

As it stands, I think it’s perhaps lost amidst the dodgy bits.


“Happiness”

Neat and uncluttered, simple tune sung in a jauntily understated manner, and always brings a smile to the craggy ole face I’ve got on the front of my head. Has a nice “Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head” floaty feel to it, while sounding spontaneous and free. It’s fun. Liked it a lot.


“Old Unenthusiastic Boy”

Ahh, this is more the GCW I know. Perhaps more than any other track on the CD, this one feels pure traditional GCW from his earlier albums. I like this one a lot, think it’s my favourite on here. A neatly constructed song, well performed, nice guitar base and unobtrusive layering of instruments in the background. Good vocal from the Gazza too.


“Piano Moments”

Not sure about this one. Liked it at first. But then the piano began to grate a bit, plonks along like a Sunday school teacher’s playing it, though that could be the recording of it rather than any defects in the tune. Elton John, when talking about songwriting for the piano, says that simplicity on the piano has to include seemingly empty spaces while at the same time making sure those spaces are filled. He says a three-chord song on piano is horrible compared to a guitar and you’ve to do a lot more work to get it to sound good. So… still not sure about this one. Sometimes it’s right, sometimes it ain’t.

But I’m looking forward to the album. I loved “Monsters From the ID”, thought it a really composed and sober piece of work about loss and beauty that never lost a sense of something more beyond tears; optimism and the best there was to be had of the human spirit, I suppose. Nice work, GCW.
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Soozy (Soozy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 08:01 pm:   

I do hope you lot realise that the Album may never happen at this rate.!!

Quite honestly with the response this has received from the release of the EP Gary is so deflated and has lost ALL confidence in what he has done so far that right now he says **** it!

You might think im just siding with Gary because I have to, but Ive listened to this CD and Im not sure where you're getting this out of time thing from either?

Can you please explain?
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 08:46 pm:   

>>Quite honestly with the response this has received from the release of the EP Gary is so deflated and has lost ALL confidence in what he has done so far that right now he says **** it!

Oh, he's a big, floppy ponce.

Come on, GCW -- crank yourself into gear! What? You gonna take any notice of me? I wasn't sure about "Manchild" at first, before getting it in the context of an album. No scrapping the album just cos a bunch of blokes on the net actually care enough about your tunes to listen to them and then disagree about them. If you're happy with the tracks (and really, we're only talking about one track that's causing the disagreements), confident in what you did at the time, you should stand by that.

(And if I still don't think the song's a work of towering genius when the album's out, and still think the piece isn't quite right, I'll tell you again! Just as I'll tell you if I'm wrong . . .)

>>I've listened to this CD and I'm not sure where you're getting this out of time thing from either? Can you please explain?

I don't think the initial beats are out of time; it's the length of the b o n g of the hollow drum, lagging afterwards on a fast track (because of the speed of the track, I think it sounds kind of out of tune); the tambourine or whatever it is is perhaps too loud after being struck and throws up a bit of discord on the track.

But: these problems are outweighed by the good stuff on the song. I love the ra-a-tat millitary style drums crashing in later in the song, and the electric guitar there gives it a kick, sends it soaring. Very good. Had I been "producing" the song, though, I'd've tried it without the tambourine.

But that's one track out of three that's caused issues. And as I said above, I've had a ringing in my head since I fell down some stairs and I'm not the most musical person in a group when I'm in a crowd of one. Yeah, I know what i like, but I ain't no expert.

For what it's worth, I think Gary's a really talented songwriter, and I've got "Monsters" on one of my MP3 players, listen to it on and off quite frequently. It stands up well alongside the other stuff I've got on there. And I'm sure, if he ever gets it ready(!), that I'll like most of the songs on the new album. But it's rare I find an album that I like 100% of the tracks on it. Working on the percentages, Gary's stuff's always come out ahead for me.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 09:18 pm:   

Are you serious, Soozy? Tell him to get cracking - I loved the EP: GCW's best stuff yet. I want to hear the album!

Looking up this thread, I'd say the comments are positive. Has someone else been negative?
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Soozy (Soozy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 09:45 pm:   

Im deadly serious Zed, he has put his heart and soul (and 1000's of hours locked away in his "room") into this album.

He wanted this to be the best he could possibly do with the limited equipment he has and now he feels that what he has done on his EP which has caused issues could be applied to the other songs he is working on and feels it isnt good enough for you lot to listen to!

He had faith and an absolute undoubting confidence in what he had done only to find out people think it has timing and mixing flaws which he didnt pick up on.

Gary is a perfectionist and if he thinks its not worth airtime he wouldnt have released it...now he doubts his ability to complete the Album.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 10:41 pm:   

Well, IMHO he did himself proud with the EP - personally I'd be gutted if he didn't finish the album. Tell him that from me.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 10:42 pm:   

Just for the sake of full disclosure: I have superb taste in music (although my missus calls me a music snob), so I know what I'm talking about.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 10:59 pm:   

Plus there's the £3 deposit he promised us on the album with the EP...

Seriously, tho, he can only do what he can do. Comes a time when you got to chew the Toffo or spit it out on the ground. If he thinks it's ready to go, it's ready to go. And if I can be a tad pretentious for a moment: no work of art is ever completed, only abandoned.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:03 pm:   

I don't claim Zed's God-like at oneness with all things of grand musical taste, but I enjoy a pretty eclectic range of stuff. Most of it with tunes. His GCWness produces good tunes you can tap your foot to. And were I able to whistle - and yes, I know what Sherlock Holmes thinks of men who can't whistle - I'd whistle them too.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:06 pm:   

I've just listened to the EP again, and I disagree with Mark - there are no timing issues and the piano in the last track certainly doesn't "plonk" along.

“A Parallelogram of Suitcases” is a sophisticated and ambitious song, so it was never going to please everyone. The combined drum and tamborine actually give the effect of a sort of "counter-beat", running against the man vocal - Coldplay do this a lot, and I think it adds resonance to a tune. For my tastes, though, the song's a belter.

But isn't this the crux of art: it's subjective nature? mark and I disagree, due to differing tastes. It's all cool, innit?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:08 pm:   

I enjoy a pretty eclectic range of stuff. Most of it with tunes.

Tunes are overrated, matey. Try some Pixies, Mudhoney or Sonic Youth. That'll cure you.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:10 pm:   

I'd also be minded, were I GCW, to listen to the musicians' views as well, rather than the minor criticisms* of a bunch of fright writers. And I'd actually hold the musicians' views in higher regard.

* Most comments were complimentary. Most comments singled out different favourite tracks. And I think all comments were made judging the tracks against top quality money rich bands' studio recordings, which makes them all the more complimentary, I'd think, because there's no patronising going on.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:12 pm:   

>>Coldplay do this a lot.

Zed, about this 'great' musical taste of yours...
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:16 pm:   

I was probably harsh on the 'plonking' piano, fair call. I'd been listening to Elton John's Songs From the West Coast the other night, and he's not that bad on the piano, and I understand he's been playing and writing a while... It probably affected my thinking when I wrote my thoughts on 'Piano Moments.'
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:19 pm:   

Zed, did you ever get a digital radio? If you did, tune into Amazing Radio, there's some really good stuff on there, by unsigned acts. GCW's stuff would fit in really well, I think. Also, after 11 they play some wicked ambient music that is, at times, rather creepy.

I'm listening to Duncan Sheik's Whisper House CD a lot at the moment. It's a perfect story album for Hallowe'en time.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:23 pm:   

And yes, I could be wrong about the timing on the song, or as Zed is suggesting, have missed the point! I'm a layman here. And like all laymen, can talk bollocks about something I know nothing about for ages.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:29 pm:   

I didn't say I actually liked Coldplay...Mr. Elton John fan.

Nah, didn't bother with a digital radio. Wouldn't have the time to listen - all my spare time is taken up with writing these days.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:42 am:   

Pity, mate. You'd like the ambient stuff. For some reason I imagined you wrote to music.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted From: 81.157.174.15
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 08:01 am:   

It's called syncopation, a very common musical device used by lots of composers from well before the Baroque period, to create dissonance - that stark offbeatedness often associated with melancholia.

GCW, sorry I haven't had chance to comment yet on the EP, but I think it's a fine one. More later - just off abroad . . .
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 08:02 am:   

Vindication for the GCWster: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/syncopation
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 09:27 am:   

Sybcopation...that's the term I was looking for. Cheers, GF.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 09:27 am:   

Syncopation, even...I'd kil for an edit button.
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Gcw (Gcw)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.170.202.57
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 05:07 pm:   

Well Guys.

I have consciously stayed away from this site for a few days while I get my head together and quite frankly, calm down a bit.

Thanks to Soozy for sticking up for me in my absence...And no I didn't put her up to it.

Mark, when I read your comments about the timing & mix on 'A parallelogram Of Suitcases' it absolutely devastated me.

My confidence had already taken a knock over Mark West & Mick's comments about timing and the drums being too loud. Now, please let me be clear, I have NO PROBLEM with people not liking my songs, or even my production,or even me for that matter, but when people (plural) start saying my timing is off on a song, when I know it is fine, thats when the old black hole opens up, and in I go.

2+2 = 5 Winston Smith.

Now, I knew all along the timing was good. But what can I say? if I protest it's just sour grapes at criticism isn't it? and for a while, it was just me against the opinions of three people. So they must be right yes?

People think I am a egotistical confident person. I'm not, it's all paper thin. It doesn't take much for it all to come crashing down.

Lynchy, if you think you can dismiss my efforts and then say 'It's only me, and hey what do I know' and think thats ok, then you are doing both me & yourself a disservice of the highest order.

Of ALL the people who listen to my stuff, I have respected your input and interest the most, surely you know that? your review hurt me hugely.

How can I make you understand...

For instance, to say my song is out of time, is to say Ramsey/Mark/Zed/Gary/Ally et al ...

"You can't write for toffee".

Not, " I respect your writing, but I don't like the story".

To pull apart my song in that way suggests you don't believe I can play in effect. thats what it says to me.

As for the piano track on 'Moments, well, I love it, hopefully Beth wont read any of this so she will play for me again.

Sounds like sour grapes doesn't it? But let me be clear, if you don't like my stuff - absolutely FINE. I have no problem at all with that. What I don't like is my musical confidence being trashed when I am trying to complete an album which up until a few days ago I believed in.

And yes, I could bung the album out now, but it's simply not finished yet, I have three songs which need some more work to complete them.

Work i don't fancy right now...Ever tried to finish a writing a story after someone has said you can't write?

That's how I feel.

Anyway, I expect I will get over it, indeed, I feel more confident than I did on Thursday last week.

Oh, and thanks to Zed & Gary Fry for the support. Gary F.- I feel vindicated for the first time in weeks.

gcw
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
Username: Mark_lynch

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.171.129.74
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 06:01 pm:   

Fooking hell. I most sincerely did not intend any of the above, mate. I thought I was positive about the EP, which I'm still playing and enjoying. (Oddly enough, Tony texted me not long after I put my thoughts up saying he liked my thoughts and that it sounds like a good EP, so now I'm not sure whose misinterpeting what.)

I like 'Suitcases' the song. I like your singing on the song. I like the guitars on the song. Have no problem with any of that. The piece soars when it needs to, and is especially belting when played loud.

Now, I disliked the jingley-jangley stuff and the hollow bong thing, which to my ear sounded wrong somehow, too dominant in the piece, and to my ear something I described as incorrectly timed. If you say it's correct, then I fully accept it is correct. No argument. But that bit of the song didn't work for me. The rest did. Certainly I wasn't implying you couldn't play or can't play. Quite the contrary; I think you're wonderfully talented and I delight in listening to your stuff. 'Monsters' especially I found to be a moving and considerable piece of work, I'd go so far as to say 'art, which is a term I rarely use.

The stuff I wrote after my initial comments was to try limit any upset I feared I'd caused you after Soozy posted. I was being dismissive of my thoughts in the hope you wouldn't take the slightly negative comments in what I'd hope was otherwise a very positive experience of listening to the CD.

As for someone telling me I can't write for toffee - what can I say? I've plenty of reviews telling me so! They're the only ones I keep. And I'm more often than not in the middle of writing something when I read them. Both Gary and Zed have expressed comments on some of my stuff that suggests it isn't always towering literature ready to storm the offices of the Nobel Prize for Literature, but I shrug, take their thoughts, and get on with trying to make something I'm working on better.

I offer my sincere and most heartfelt apologies for upsetting you here and now in front of everyone. It was never my intention to bring any doubts on in you. Let me reiterate again, though, that of the four songs on the EP that I enjoy without reservation two of them, have issues over the jangly bits on another I like, and have a sometimes I like it/sometimes I don't feeling towards the other. So at worst, that's 3 out of 4 that I like, 1 I'm 50/50 on...
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
Username: Mark_lynch

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.171.129.74
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 06:05 pm:   

I'll just add as well that Michelle liked my first thoguhts enough to be excited about listening to the EP soon as well...

She also thinks you're hugely talented.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 06:16 pm:   

shrug, take their thoughts, and get on with trying to make something I'm working on better.

Hear-hear, mate. That's what I do. It's all part of putting your work out there. I actually dismiess the good reviews and focus on the negative comments instead, try to use them (if they're constructive, of course) to improve.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
Username: Mark_lynch

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.171.129.74
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 06:17 pm:   

By the way, don't go getting carried away and think Michelle meant that 'hugely' in any sexual connotation... ;-)
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.170.202.57
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 06:44 pm:   

Would I ever...!

Mark, thanks for going out on a limb and trying to understand me, I am, as you say, a floppy ponce of the highest order.

I hope you can see how much your opinion means to me cos of all this nonsense.

We cool hunnybunny?

gcw
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
Username: Mark_lynch

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.171.129.72
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 06:57 pm:   

Yes, mate. And I'm very flattered.

In fact, I've decided you should employ me as your producer for the next album. Clearly you need more of those pingy disco drums in your recordings.... Also, 'Happiness' would probably better sung in a Jimmy Sommerville falsetto...

Whaddaya mean I'm sacked?!
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.170.202.57
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 07:00 pm:   

Yep, you mix the bastard!:-)

gcw
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 92.25.190.15
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 11:27 pm:   

Hah! And hah again!
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
Username: Mark_lynch

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.171.129.70
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 12:35 am:   

You having an asthma attack, Mick?
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.178.87.115
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 09:35 pm:   

Burp. Vzzzzt.

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