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Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 213.158.199.76
| Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 07:17 pm: | |
But they've made a sequel to the Descent. Neil Marshall isn't directing, and after Doomsday, though I did enjoy it, guiltily I might add, it may or may not be a good thing. The link should provide a trailer even though I've not watched it. The main protagonist is back, which makes the ambiguous ending of the original movie all the more baffling. |
Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.72
| Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 09:15 pm: | |
Neat link, Fran. |
Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.72
| Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 09:20 pm: | |
I sorta liked the Descent and its dipsy-do ending. Had some nice creepiness along the way. But god, why are people in horror movies so dumb? Haven't seen the movie the guy made after that. The clips were enough... |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 213.158.199.67
| Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 10:24 pm: | |
Mark - Doomsday can be taken as either one man's love letter to John Carpenter movies, Romero movies and George Miller's Mad Max trilogy, thrown together in an absurd mishmash that somehow works, or you can view it as a B movie with little or no interest in who it steals from. I think it's both categories. It's a lot better than the trailer looks. Which when you think about movies these days and their trailers, it's usually vice versa. |
Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.72
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 08:11 am: | |
What I don't get about these post apolcalyptic movies, is why the mohawk and faux-goth chic suddenly make a big fashion impact on the survivors. The trailer was more than enough for me. But I'll reconsider watching it, now you've said that, Fran. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.122.108.128
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 08:13 am: | |
I hated it. No good memories of it whatsoever. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.183.60
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 09:43 am: | |
Me neither, Tony. Lord P and Zed liked it, though. I think our brains must contain a sort of aesthetic sieve that allows some films to pass through while blocking others. I agree with Zed and his Lordship on most matters cinematic, but I think this is one of those occasions where we'll never see eye to eye. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.122.108.128
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 10:07 am: | |
It was like 'un'cinema. Took away from my imagination rather than gave. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.106
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 10:40 am: | |
I love The Descent. It did what a lot of modern horror films forget to do: scared the shit out of me. Mark - the look of the survivors in Doomsday was clearly part of the homage. The film was a big daft love letter to the videos I loved in my teenage years. I watched it (three times) with a huge grin on my face. |
John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.199.0.149
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 11:17 am: | |
I don't love The Descent as much as Zed (and Lady P incidentally) but it IS a good horror picture, just as Doomsday is a superb spaghetti apocalypse trash hommage that cheers me up no end every time I watch it - it's like a British version of Umberto Lenzi's Nightmare City but better (I've lost most people now I know) The Descent Part 2 was on at FrightFest but we missed it. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.47
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 11:21 am: | |
I think I loved the Descent as much as Zed. I was almost glad for the short breaks fastwinding through the film4 adverts as a way of relieving the tension. The half glimpsed bones and creatures really are some of the most terrifying images I've seen on screen. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.3.95.168
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 11:46 am: | |
I loved Descent on first viewing, then thought it was just okay on the second. I think Dog Soldiers is better. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.106
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 12:02 pm: | |
I've seen both several times, and prefer The Descent. Dog Soldiers is great, though. |
Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.70
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:16 pm: | |
I've seen Dog Soldiers too. Enjoyed that a lot too. I was put off Doomsday because of the silly haircuts and all that stuff Zed tells me is homage. It probably is but I just felt a big lump sink inside me when I saw it in the trailers. The DVD's £5 at Asda or 50p to rent from the library. Either way, I suspect I'll be 'doing my money,' as the sage David Dickenson would have it. |
Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.70
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:18 pm: | |
Incidentally, Asda (the Brit wing of Wallmart, for US folk) has its Halloween stock out, thus extending my shopping trips by a good half hour as I play with all the toys and pose with the life-size ghoul butler... |
Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.70
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:20 pm: | |
Dog Soldiers and Descent are different sides of different coins of the same currency. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.47
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:25 pm: | |
And they both begin with D as does Doomsday |
Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.171.129.70
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:34 pm: | |
A pity you didn't get that job working with the police, matey. They'll miss your incisive detecting ability... Right. I'm away. Gotta go to the Peak District. Not particularly looking forward to it. But you never know, there may be a phone signal up them thar hills... |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 213.158.199.97
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 06:42 pm: | |
Mark - yes, I've always wondered why everybody suddenly turns punk when civilization goes tits up, too. Prof - I think Dog Soldiers is better than The Descent, too. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.184.92
| Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 06:53 pm: | |
Me too, Frank. |
Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw
Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.4.18.104
| Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 12:47 am: | |
I've been hugely impressed with all three of Neil Marshall's films to date. The man has a natural flair for genre cinema. I'd put 'Dog Soldiers' first, then 'The Descent', then 'Doomsday' but really enjoyed them all. I see he has a new film due out shortly called 'Centurion'. Any reports on this??? |
Steve Bacon (Stevebacon)
Username: Stevebacon
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 90.209.11.186
| Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 10:10 am: | |
I loved 'Descent' more than 'Dog Soldiers', although I thought both were excellent films. The ending to the UK version was far superior to its US counterpart. I didn't quite get on with 'Doomsday'. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.106
| Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 10:20 am: | |
I've always wondered why everybody suddenly turns punk when civilization goes tits up, too. I always took it as a crude anti-establishment metaphor on the part of the filmmakers. But in marshall's film it's obviously a direct homage to Mad Max II and it's weird and wonderful Italian rip-offs, and Escape From New York and it's weird and wonderful Italian rip-offs. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 213.158.199.79
| Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 10:59 am: | |
Zed - I know what it's meant to represent, just why do some film-makers have no imagination of their own and keep repeating it in every other end-of-civilisation movie? With Marshall it's acceptable because it's homage. Then again, I guess it is mostly Italian Rip-offs, so what am I complaining about??? |