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     Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.142.199.181 |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6861885.ece | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.106 |
Jesus, that's terrible...terrible... | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.181.53 |
And there was I thinking this was going to be a thread about Lord P... | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.155.206.196 |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6863785.ece I don't know why I'm posting these. Feels sort of relevant. | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85 |
So sad. It's dreadful to think of youngsters going through hell like this. And for them to end up thinking they're better off ending it all - well, speaking as someone who lost her sister in similar circumstances at an early age, there are just no words to describe it. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.155.206.196 |
It's startring to feel like a plague. So much sadness, inability to cope. Something's wrong. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091007/tuk-baby-p-council-chief-suicidal-dba1618.ht ml http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091007/tuk-nursery-paedophile-s-husband-in-suic-dba 1618.html http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091006/tuk-little-britain-star-matt-s-ex-found-45db ed5.html | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.155.206.196 |
Caroline - your sister killed herself? That's awful. | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85 |
>>Caroline - your sister killed herself? That's awful.<< It was awful, Tony. It was over 40 years ago, but the pain's still raw even now. Suicide is never, ever the solution to any problems anyone may have. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.155.203.26 |
Were you very young Caroline? People say that stuff that happens when you're young washes off, but I'm not so sure. I don't know what to say, if there is indeed anything. | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85 |
Yes, I was only 9, Tony. There was quite an age gap between me and my sister. She was 21. No, it definitely doesn't "wash off" when you're very young - far from it. It was thought at the time (by my parents and the psychiatrist who my mum was seeing) that it wasn't having any effect on me because I was "too young to understand", but they were way off the truth. I always think to myself, when nowadays I see families in the news who've lost youngsters, "remember the brothers and sisters - they hurt like hell too!" There is now, of course, a charity called The Candlelighters which helps bereaved children, but in 1967 there was no such recognition that they needed any help. Don't worry, you've no need to say anything.  | ||
| Stephen Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
Caroline, I've only just looked into this thread and am so sorry to hear that. It's like people saying divorce doesn't impact on a child because they're too young to understand. Ridiculously insensitive. I always grit my teeth when I hear someone say "children soon adapt" as if they don't need grief counselling too. The above is a terribly tragic story and you're right that's about all can be said... | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.47.222.21 |
Really, really, sorry to hear that - Caroline. | ||
| Carolinec (Carolinec) Username: Carolinec Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 82.38.75.85 |
Thanks Stephen, Ally - but like I said to Tony, you don't need to say anything. In a way I was lucky that the psychologists didn't get their hands on me. There was also no counselling of the sort we have nowadays at that time either. If someone was depressed, they got a repeat prescription for anti-depressants; if anxious, they got tranquilisers; if they couldn't sleep, they got sleeping tablets. If all three, then they got the lot. That's what they did for my mum. No thought to the underlying cause of the depression/anxiety/insomnia - ie. that her daughter had killed herself. As a result, mum was well and truly messed up for the rest of her life. So I thank my lucky stars they didn't get hold of me too! I was lucky enough to be able to deal with it in my own way, though it took a long, long time to do so. |