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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 01:56 pm:   

I watched a reaaly cheerful triple bill of DVDs last night because the telly was so good.

Started with Vinyan.
Followed that up with Inside
And to cheer things up a bit more I finished with The Piano Teacher.

Vinyan was an interesting little film, almost hallucinatory at times, very well done and bleak just about begins to describe the ending.

Inside was without doubt one of the most gross films I've ever seen. Very well done again but............spoiler................spoiler................................... .........................................................................I'm getting bored with films where everyone dies at the end. It makes weverything that went before seem pointless (unless you can do a Haneke and twist things round somehow)

Speaking of Haneke - I'd not seen the Piano teacher before and this was a magnificently well acted movie. It made the other two look like amateur productions.

Next weekend I'm going for Tideland, 71 Fragments and Code Unknown.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 02:03 pm:   

The Piano Teacher is excellent, isn't it? I loved the ending, where he confounds your expectations with that almost Hitchcockian build-up, and then...

Brilliant.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 02:11 pm:   

<<<almost>>>

Didn't I say in another thread that Haneke uses all Hitchcock's techniques, but then subverts them? In the same way as a carpenter and a sculptor will both use the same tools to different end purposes, Haneke uses Hitchcockian camera angles, long takes etc to produce his works which, while Hitch tried to entertain his audiences, haneke seks to disturb.

Nice to know I'm right sometimes.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 02:17 pm:   

I'd agree that Haneke sometimes does that - but after all, he's in the business of setting up an audience to expect a conventional thriller and then giving them something completely different. He also uses this technique to great effect in Cache.

Films like Benny's Video and The Seventh Continent don't particularly use this trick, though.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.239.0
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 03:35 pm:   

So we expect something from a Haneke film, you're saying, Zed....

I'm blanking on the actress's name, but in the extras on THE PIANO TEACHER, she's speaking about the film - and wow, did Haneke make her up to look different for that film!
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 04:07 pm:   

The actress was Isabelle Huppert.

In Inside - why did the cop in the car not radio for backup when he heard shots in the house????

It annoyed me for the last half hour of the film.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 04:08 pm:   

So we expect something from a Haneke film, you're saying, Zed....


No, he sets us up to expect something and does something else.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.239.0
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 04:14 pm:   

No, he sets us up to expect something and does something else.

... every time, which establishes a pattern.

Over to you.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 04:16 pm:   

Except he doesn't do it every time as Zed also stated.

Now bugger off and study for that Turing test, you just failed AGAIN
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.239.0
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 04:22 pm:   

Except he doesn't do it every time as Zed also stated.

Which further establishes Heneke's pattern as a surprising director.

(It's like whacking tennis-balls against a wall here....)
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 05:12 pm:   

I would love to see Haneke direct one of Paul Auster's darker works. They both like to leave crucial plot details unexplained. They both create apparently straightforward narrative that is never quite what it seems. It'd be a perfect matching of talent. Imagine - New York trilogy directed by Haneke (esp book 3)

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