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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.56
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 04:39 pm:   

Just sent you an email Mrs C
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 04:45 pm:   

Ah, right, thanks Weber. I'll go and look ...


PS: Might not be able to respond straight away though - tied up at mo.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.56
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 04:50 pm:   

Frank popped round with his equipment?
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 04:53 pm:   

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Ian Alexander Martin (Iam)
Username: Iam

Registered: 10-2009
Posted From: 64.180.64.74
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 12:56 am:   

I can't wait for WHC, let me tell you!
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 04:32 pm:   

You might get a nasty shock though, Ian!
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.56
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 04:44 pm:   

She carries a Tazer with her everywhere she goes...
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 05:04 pm:   

True. It is. Honest.

BTW Weber, just emailed you - only an acknowledgment. Be in touch later ...
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.56
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 05:26 pm:   

Yp, seen it, read it, printed it out, wiped my pert bottom with it and sent it to the Queen as a late Christmas card already.
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Ian Alexander Martin (Iam)
Username: Iam

Registered: 10-2009
Posted From: 64.180.64.74
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 08:48 pm:   

I'll be coming to you from Vancouver International Airport, so it's possible that the RCMP will become interested in me and kill me with a Tazer before I even get on the damned plane. It's already happened once to someone.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 09:14 pm:   

Good grief! And I bet they've beefed up airport security even more now.

Weber - if you're going to use my emails as loo paper I don't think I'll send you any more.
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Ian Alexander Martin (Iam)
Username: Iam

Registered: 10-2009
Posted From: 64.180.64.74
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 02:09 am:   

Google the following:

* YVR
* RCMP
* Tazer

A mid-30s man, who had never flown anywhere before in his life, flew to Vancouver Airport ("YVR") to meet his mother and then live with her Canada. She said she'd meet him at baggage pick-up, forgetting it's behind security for international flights. He waits for her for eight hours (yes, 8 hours), having already been awake for a good dozen or so during the flight from Poland. Mom gets told "you son's gone, you missed him, go home now" and so she drives back to Kamloops some five hours aways from Vancouver. No one has checked if he's really in the Customs area, but they tell her that anyway.

Time passes. About 7.75 hours, in fact.

Someone calls the security about "some guy who's drunk and smashing things"; and he actually is smashing some stuff, but he's pretty upset that Mom's still not here and he speaks as much English as anyone here speaks Polish. Who wouldn't want to get some help and get frustrated a tad? Not the best way to get that help, but certainly not too "out of left field", either.

The RCMP show-up in response to the call about the crazy man. After the five fully armed men in uniforms have finished half-circling him, they tell him "please calm down, Sir" once, then he walks basically away from them, one of the guys panics, fires his tazer at the poor guy, proceeds to energize the thing twice more, someone else throws themselves at the "dangerous foreigner" and brings him to the ground, two more guys pile on one of them lovingly kneeling on his throat and no one performs any first aid.

The Emergency crew for the airport are not called, because the man in charge of them figures 'if we have an emergency from one of the flights, we'll be really screwed' and tells his crew to stay put "just in case something happens". Presumably, he's waiting for something OTHER than a wigged-out, dehydrated guy with low blood sugar being repeatedly electrocuted by a bunch of burly men in uniforms speaking a language he doesn't speak a word of. Perhaps he's expecting someone with a turban or bhurka to show up soon. Who knows?

The Ambulance and Fire Fighters (who are typically quicker and can administer oxygen until the medical team arrives) are not informed when they arrive of what the man has been subjected to, and are even briefly prevented from entering the area of the now dead 'perpetrator'.

RCMP circle the waggons, claiming the foreigner was clearly dangerous and was attacking people including threatening to injure the officers, except a citizen happens to record much of the entire event on his video camera. Calls for an inquiry are made, which eventually begins.

Testimony from the officers attending the incident remain the same as before, but do not correlate in any meaningful way with the video. All of their evidence is nearly word-for-word between them. No one apologizes or even admits the possibility they might have erred in their actions. No criminal charges are laid against the officer who pulled the trigger, nor the officer in charge of the team who was there himself.

Tazer International continues to insist that their weapons cannot fatally injure anyone, yet this is only one of about four times that people have died almost intermediately after being hit with one of their 'harmless' tools of control.

We're still waiting for the report from the Commission's Head, probably because he's trying to figure out how to say "everyone fucked up and the poor bugger's dead now; look that woman in the eye and tell her her son's dead before I punch the lot of you in the nose" without actually saying it like that. His frustration was palpable during much of the testimony and defence for the Officers.

Hopefully, they will not beef security up any more than they already have at YVR, otherwise you may never have any of the UK Winter Olympics Team arrive home.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.5.66
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 02:39 am:   

Ian, when you put "RCMP" earlier, I thought it was a mis-type of RCMB. We're weird on here, but not that weird...
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.56
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 11:22 am:   

awww caroline, of course I didn't wipe my sweet behind with your email. The printer clogs ups iff you try to feed it a roll of andrex
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 01:19 pm:   

Ian - that's a terrible thing that happened there, but I can understand (though I'm definitely not condoning their actions) how things get way out of control like that. We had a similar incident in the UK when the Metropolitan Police shot dead a Brazilian electrician on the London underground, in the wake of the tube attacks there a few years ago. I fear there will be more such "mistakes" as fears about terrorism, and more sophisticated methods by the terrorists (like the recent "underpants bomber"), increase.

Mick - yes, I had to think about RCMP/RCMB too! I dunno, we might all get together and kill Ian before he even steps on the plane!

Weber - don't worry, I'll still email you. But is your behind really "pert" and "sweet"? Just interested to find out, you see ...
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Ian Alexander Martin (Iam)
Username: Iam

Registered: 10-2009
Posted From: 64.180.64.74
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 08:19 pm:   

Royal Canadian Mounted Police = RCMP = The Mounties

Yes, the RCMB title also often confuses me for a moment.

I can't wait to be beaten to a pulp by all of you at WHC. You'll all have to wear red, woollen surge jackets, however. And a funny stetson.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 10:00 pm:   

... and ride horses? Or is that just the image we have in our heads of the mounties over here?
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Steve Bacon (Stevebacon)
Username: Stevebacon

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 90.204.111.196
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 10:41 pm:   

Perhaps we could form our own constabulary - the Ramsey Campbell Mounted Police.
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Ian Alexander Martin (Iam)
Username: Iam

Registered: 10-2009
Posted From: 64.180.64.74
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 11:27 pm:   

On horses is correct for the really full-on experience. It is the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, after all. Most of them are mounted on automobiles now, but occasionally motorcycles.

The "RCMP Musical Ride" continues to exist a live precision riding presentation of about 45 minutes or so, with recorded musical accompaniment, much like the Lipizanner Stallions, only less fancy but they're not touring much these days as its expensive. There was a picture of them on horses standing in a circle on the back of the Canadian $50 bill during the '80s.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 12:29 am:   

>>There was a picture of them on horses standing in a circle on the back of the Canadian $50 bill during the '80s.<<

It would have been quite a squeeze fitting them all on the back of a $50 bill, or is a $50 bill extremely large?

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