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Michael_kelly (Michael_kelly)
Username: Michael_kelly

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 174.93.52.170
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   

Just wanted to drop a quick line and say how impressed I am with Nicholas Royle's Nightjar Press offerings. He's published four chapbooks by Tom Fletcher, Michael Marshall Smith, Alison Moore, and Joel Lane (which is a brilliant social meditation on how we lose and find ourselves in our remembrances of things past).

Nick should be applauded for helping keep the short story vibrant and alive. These are all well worth your time.

Of course, you probably already knew that.

http://nightjarpress.wordpress.com/
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Steve Bacon (Stevebacon)
Username: Stevebacon

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 90.210.209.136
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   

I've got them all, but not yet read Joel's or Alison Moore's. They're a nice piece of product.
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 09:17 pm:   

Joels' chapbook was the only thing I asked Mick Curtis to pick up for me in Brighton as i couldn't attend. I'm looking forward to reading it!

gcw
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.102.176
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 09:41 pm:   

What? Oh bloody hell!
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 09:46 pm:   

(You ask him to do one...simple...thing...)

gcw:-)
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.102.176
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 10:04 pm:   

Erm - I've got two copies... I'll just scribble any old thing in one of them. You'll never know...
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.102.176
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 07:03 pm:   

See - perfect!

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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:49 pm:   

Amazingly convincing!

(Whats an 18R Dude>???)

gcw
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.102.176
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 11:10 pm:   

That'll be "l8r" not "18r"! As in 'later, dood'...
You're just not darn wiv de kids...
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 11:15 pm:   

oh. I'm not very hip am I?

gcw...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 12:25 am:   

Your hip replacement is very hip.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
Username: Mark_lynch

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.171.129.73
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 09:08 am:   

And a cluster of nightjars sang some songs out of tune, while a mantle of bright light shone...

Not heard of this venture by Mr Royle, but yes, good for him, putting his money where his mouth is.
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 11:38 am:   

"Your hip replacement is very hip."

Don't laugh - I keep getting a pain there!:-)

gcw
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.110.205
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 11:44 am:   

My right knee is on its way out.
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 09:17 pm:   

Lets face it -We're all getting old & buggered.

So to speak.

gcw
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.110.205
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 09:27 pm:   

Maybe in Norfolk . . .
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 10:17 pm:   

It's all happening here man I tell yer...

gcw
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.29.110.205
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 10:20 pm:   

Do you have tractors races on cliff edges, like a kind of rustic version of those speedster shunts in Rebel Without A Cause?
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 10:34 pm:   

..And they say the North is humourless.....gcw...:-)
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Steve Bacon (Stevebacon)
Username: Stevebacon

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 90.210.209.136
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 12:09 am:   

I thought Norfolk was less Rebel Without A Cause, and more Giant (Haystacks).

I'm Northern, too. Sorry. :-)
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 129.11.77.198
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 11:57 am:   

It's certainly East of Eden. Quite a long way east actually.
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 08:46 pm:   

Ironically, I am a total towny, I know nothing about tilling the land...Or whippet buggery either..

UNLIKE YOU LOT!! -

gcw....

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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 02:04 pm:   

It has come to my attention that rather too many copies of my Nightjar Press chapbook are still available. While this is the natural order of things, I feel duty bound to encourage a few more of you to invest in it. I'm sure the other Nightjar Press chapbooks are selling out very fast, so I wouldn't risk missing out on those while also helping to get my sales figures closer to the 100 mark.

It also gives me an excuse to direct you to the following nice blog review: http://nigelpbird.blogspot.com/2010/04/black-country-by-joel-lane.html?spref=tw

(Though posting links to your own reviews is, to quote the Nightingales once more, 'the born and bred qualifier for whoredom'. But what can you do?)
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 10:23 pm:   

Thanks for the signed copy Joel, which Mick kindly sorted for me.

I can I be tedious & repetive & say I loved it?

Yours is the only new book I have bought thus far this year, and it ain't because its a cheap one...

gcw
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.245.247
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 10:57 pm:   

Thanks, GCW. I was wondering when Mick would own up to having not forgotten...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 12:11 am:   

BLACK COUNTRY is yet another absolute corker of a tale from Joel: sad, creepy and poetic. I can't recommend this highly enough, along with Tom Fletcher's THE SAFE CHILDREN (another Nighjar chapbook, and the best short story I read last year).
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
Username: Simon_b

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 86.24.165.4
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 11:27 am:   

Hear hear, Gary. Those two are my favourites so far, although the Alison Moore story is excellent too. I love Joel's 'weird procedural' stories and this is a stunner- although the one he read out at WHC is better still. Can't wait to see that one in print too.
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 07:08 pm:   

Do you notice how Joel seems to slip a 'wry smile' moment into even his most melancholy tales?

The little scamp!

I've cracked & ordered 'From Blue To Black' & 'The Blue Mask' for holiday reads, sorry Joel, second hand copies for budget reasons.

A blue theme...Will we be seeing 'Midnight Blue' some time?

gcw
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.189.50
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 11:28 pm:   

GCW, I've yet to find a publisher for it. Long story. I'll keep you posted.
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 08:55 pm:   

Thats a criminal shame Joel, I hope it finds a publisher soon.

Just out of curiosity....How much does it cost to self publish? say a hundred books?

gcw
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.153.132
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 01:19 am:   

I think you could break even quite easily. But it's not what you pay up front, it's what it costs you in terms of reputation and self-respect.
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 06:53 pm:   

Do you think so Joel? I'm not a writer so I don't understand how the publishing industry 'thinks'...Thats a shame if the case. I would have thought if a writer self published, and did well, then, a previously reticent publisher may get off the fence & take note.

gcw
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.182.229.104
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 06:55 pm:   

I think writers who self-publish are held in low esteem, a lot of the time.
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 07:01 pm:   

Interesting...Suppose Stephen King went 'Indie' and self published?

Cut out the middle man, and make even more bucks I would think.

(From Blue To Black arrived today Joel!)

gcw
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.31.165.34
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 07:16 pm:   

Yet it's cool and mandatory for musician to V-sign the producing companies and go solo. Go figure.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.233.93
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 07:33 pm:   

I agree with GCW here - perhaps once one is a Joel or Ramsey it might (?) be a demerit, but for the starters, the scramblers, the risers, at this point and time...? With places to publish shrinking fast, and all the other attendant publishing woes and ills? (and new possibilities - the eBook thingy is a whole new world)... Hell, a writer simply MUST try any and all avenues to readership....
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   

I don't see how being a Joel, Ramsey or anyone would make it a demerit. If to publish your own work, and promote it to success is seen as a shameful thing in the publishing world then, heck, maybe the publishing world needs to change!

I know of several writers here who have unpublished books...What a shame, such talent isn't out there for us plebs to enjoy!

gcw
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.153.237.52
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 08:17 pm:   

"Yet it's cool and mandatory for musician to V-sign the producing companies and go solo. Go figure."

Yes, thats true Gary, and yet the polar opposite was true not so very long ago, to be on an 'indie' after say, being on a major label was seen as a shameful loss of commercial success, and to make your own music, and distribute it (as I do) was totally unthinkable.

gcw

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