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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.203.130.36
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:17 pm:   

So BBC4's Spanish horror series finished last night with this which I think deserves its own thread because it was

Sheer
Bloody
Perfection

Honestly - in a year of superb horror films this is a contender for the best. Imagine a combination of The Door episode of From Beyond the Grave, Nigel Kneale's use of physics to make things more terrifying, the 'corner of the retina' terror of MR James and the rub-your-face-in-it violence of Lucio Fulci all put together by someone who absolutely knows what he's doing. Everything about this was spot on, right down to the long drawn-out anguished screams at the end.

God I loved this. Loved it loved it loved it.

I haven't seen anything quite as perfect in ages
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Tony (Tony)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.131.242
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:30 pm:   

And even better; I have recorded it an have yet to see it.
Sad point; really, why aren't we this good anymore?
(sorry about the garment removal the other day, btw, and the butt-kicks...)
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.180.186
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:32 pm:   

Are any of these available on disc yet?
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.131.242
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   

Yup. Bit dear, though, and only from Spain it seems.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.131.242
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:38 pm:   

Some links on this very board;
http://www.knibbworld.com/campbelldiscuss/messages/1/222.html?1211371148
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.203.130.36
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:39 pm:   

Tony I agree - we SHOULD be able to make this sort of stuff standing on our heads. It also made me feel as if I was watching a particularly superb episode of Brian Clemens' Thriller.

Oh, and don't mention it - you're enough of a chum that you don't need to.

Let me know if you feel as enthused as I did. In fact I envy you not having seen it yet
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Tony (Tony)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.131.242
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:44 pm:   

That sort of remark is always a good sign!
You know, this series, from the few I have seen, have almost singlehandedly given me hope about telly/movie horror - as well as a sort of dread that it might be as good as it gets for a while.
If there's any justice these guys will get movie opportunites and won't blow them.
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.203.130.36
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:47 pm:   

I agree - it's made me feel very 'Up' about the horror genre - it's everything the TV show 'Masters of Horror' should have been but failed miserably at attempting.

I'd like them to make movies but stay in Spain & keep it a cottage industry like the Hammers. Horror often seems to work better that way.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.131.242
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:52 pm:   

Yes - exactly.
Oh, Masters of Horror was an abomination. Someone should gather all the dvds up and burn them; of the ones I saw none had any redeeming quality or sense of skill whatsoever.

I just watched Dead of Night with the kids the other night (in a log cabin in a wood to boot! Watched Plague of the Zombies and The Fog, too, btw) and the level of seriousness and skill to that one is very scarce, even though that film wasn't perfect, or that scary. The treatment was worthy, and in a good way. These Spanish episodes show these things so much it's almost shocking in itself.
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.203.130.36
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:57 pm:   

Everyone talks about Cavalcanti's Dummy story in Dead of Night, but the one that really makes me shiver is the short one about the dead child with Sally Ann Howes.

And you're right - the Spanish pictures give me a weird sense of nostalgia for when people made these things 'properly' - with a real feel for what's scary
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 10:05 pm:   

Yes! It was the girl wandering the huge old house that got me, and the description of the murder.
Redgrave is stunning, though. Kept reminding me of Gary Oldman.
We popped into a huge old stately home on the way home. It was vast, and about 600 years old. Apparently the last person to live there was an old lady and her two old servants - in 1986. My mind was absolutely buggered.
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 10:16 pm:   

I love those old houses. And those old movies. You may be right that these Spanish pictures will be all we get for another few years, but at least they've happened, which is a Good Thing
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.249.146
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 12:22 am:   

Just watched The Baby's Room, and loved it. A great finale to a superior series of films.

Tony - most of these directors are known in Spain as horror filmmakers. For example, The Baby's Room was made by the guy who did day of the Beast, Accion Mutante and Purdito Duranga. An earlier one was made by the guy who did Rec.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.159.153.186
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 01:48 pm:   

I just watched it too - it's been a wonderful series, although unfortunately I didn't know about it until JLP mentioned it here and the first two eps had already gone out. Anyone still got them recorded?
Tony - we went to a National Trust place in Herefordshire a couple of years back - normally these places have volunteers about, but at this mansion we were shown about by a really ancient couple who actually owned it - they seemed from another world almost.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   

I also missed the first two, Mick. I think I only saw three of them, actually - The Baby's Room, the one by Rec guy and the one about the little girl and her monsters.
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Huw (Huw)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 61.216.37.13
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 03:07 pm:   

Thanks for that link, Tony. I just ordered the 6-disc set, along with Argento's Four Flies on Grey Velvet and Fulci's The Psychic.
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Lincoln_brown (Lincoln_brown)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 124.181.95.240
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 09:17 pm:   

'Tony - we went to a National Trust place in Herefordshire a couple of years back - normally these places have volunteers about, but at this mansion we were shown about by a really ancient couple who actually owned it - they seemed from another world almost.'

Mick, have you read 'The Man In the Grey Bedroom', by Reggie Oliver?!
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.203.130.160
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 09:23 pm:   

Another place that's fun to go to is Penhow Castle owned by film director Stephen Weeks (I Monster & Ghost Story - the one set in Wales but filmed in India)
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.159.153.186
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 11:13 pm:   

Mick, have you read 'The Man In the Grey Bedroom', by Reggie Oliver?!

Yes indeedy - and it reminded me of many such visits (but without the 'orrible things happening, of course!)...
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted From: 90.203.130.160
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 11:32 pm:   

Reggie read from that very story at his booklaunch, much to the horror of many of the assembled throng who thought they'd come to an art exhibition. The comments from the octagenarian ladies behind me were priceless
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.249.146
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 11:51 pm:   

He sounds like a top gent.

I'll tell you what: "Mr. Poo Poo" is one of the best weird tales I've read in a long, long time. I covet that story.
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.203.130.160
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 11:58 pm:   

It's fine, isn't it? I hope he writes more like that.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.131.242
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 11:23 pm:   

Right; just about to watch this!
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.131.242
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 01:33 am:   

D'oh!
Too much build up.
It was pretty good, but a bit neat. A few good scares and a nice premise - I just felt the setting was a touch too 'genre', and little things like the old lady the same. Still, the bloke in this one was a very good actor - he looked really -
But I won't say more.
Still liked the girl with the imaginary friend one best - it was the most dreamlike of the ones I saw.
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Huw (Huw)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.184.150
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 02:40 am:   

I liked the lead actor too - poor old Juan.

Did you jump when he looked under the bed?

The beginning scene with the children playing hide-and-seek in the past reminded me of The Orphanage.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

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Posted From: 86.145.131.242
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 08:53 am:   

Yeah, it did.
I wold have jumped more if I hadn't just been checking my phone - I must learn to put the bloody thing in another room.
Did you think it felt like a Ramsey tale, at least narratively?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.249.146
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 08:58 am:   

"I wold have jumped more if I hadn't just been checking my phone"

No wonder you're never that impressed with much you watch, Tony, if you sit texting while viewing. Whenever I watch something, it's late at night, with the lights out and my headphones on: total immersion.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.131.242
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 08:38 pm:   

If a film grips me the phone is never touched. This was the first episode where I did it; I could sort of see where it was going.

But really, my mind is always wandering. I envy folk who can watch a film without looking round the room at nothing, their mind buzzing. It is ADD, I'm sure, and I'm not jumping on a bandwagon; I've had it my whole life.
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Grant (Grant)
Username: Grant

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 67.176.207.225
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 10:06 pm:   

I hope they have episodes of this on demand.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 212.140.118.61
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 09:49 am:   

We don't seem to have these kinds of discussions with any of these people any more, do we?
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 86.130.100.94
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 10:19 am:   

People's own fiefdoms often took over, Tony, on Facebook or individual blogs.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 212.140.118.61
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 11:03 am:   

It felt more intimate here, but there were problems. FB feels relaxed, but fleeting, like being in wind.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 92.8.26.103
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 11:53 am:   

Except for some reason they've "temporarily suspended" my account as of about an hour ago.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 92.8.26.103
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 12:14 pm:   

But now I'm restored.
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David_lees (David_lees)
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Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 92.17.171.66
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 02:34 pm:   

I missed that whole Spanish horror series for some reason. I wish they'd repeat it. It seems you can get the series as a Region 1 import for under a tenner on Amazon.co.uk, but there's a warning about possible additional import duties and taxes :/
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 92.8.26.103
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 04:00 pm:   

David, if it's under a tenner there should be no import duties.
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David_lees (David_lees)
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Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 92.17.171.66
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 05:25 pm:   

Really? Oooh...not sure I have the disposable income for impulse purchases at the moment, but on the other hand it might be worth grabbing for that price.
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Mbfg (Mbfg)
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Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 212.219.63.204
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 05:56 pm:   

I've compeltley missed this. What was it called, can I find any of it on iPlayer?

Cheers
Terry
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David_lees (David_lees)
Username: David_lees

Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 92.17.171.66
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 06:59 pm:   

It was "6 Films to Keep you Awake", sadly it's not on iPlayer. It was on the BBC four or five years ago.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.183.79.10
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 07:41 pm:   

...it's also on one of my DVD shelves...

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