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     Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
I'm helping backstage with a local theatre group's production of Carousel. I've decided that if I ever hear that clam bake song again after this week I'm going to go mental. This is a show that could never be written today. Towards the end of the show we find out that it's opk to beat your wife because if you love her and she loves you, no matter how hard you hit them, it doesn't hurt... I'm not kidding - there's a scene near the end where that is the only conclusion you can draw from the dialogue - just after he's beaten his 15 year old daughter, she says it didn't hurt even though he hit her hard - and between her and her mother they decide that it's because he loves them that his punches/slaps don't hurt. | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
Isn't he supposed to be a ghost or have I got the wrong show entirely? | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
When he beats his daughter he's been sent back to earth for a day - he's a ghost but he's solid. And his wife does state that it never hurt when he beat her (and he was alive when he did that). | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
Rather a dubious message to say the least... can anyone offer a defence I wonder? | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.166.117.210 |
I'm sure Sean Connery could.  | ||
| Simon Bestwick (Simon_b) Username: Simon_b Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 86.24.209.217 |
Marc- is that the SMTC production? A couple of friends of mine are in that. | ||
| Kate (Kathleen) Username: Kathleen Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 86.142.146.96 |
Didn't Jo Fletcher make a case for it being horror in Cinema Macabre? | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.64.121.35 |
Jo certainly did. I'll go and read it again. | ||
| Kate (Kathleen) Username: Kathleen Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 86.142.146.96 |
Amanda Palmer saw the horror in it too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzek4sHZp-c | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
Simon - yes it is. | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
I'd say it's more supernatural fantasy similar to 'A Matter Of Life And Death' or 'It's A Wonderful Life'... two of my all-time favourite films I could never grow sick of watching. | ||
| Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
I found the same message odious in Liliom, the piece on which the musical is based, and I'm amazed that the Borzage version recently released by the BFI hasn't (so far as I know) attracted criticism for this aspect (though in some ways it's a fine film). | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
according to Wikipedia he goes to hell for hitting his daughter in the original story. Is that wrong? | ||
| Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74 |
Not in the Borzage version, as I recall. |