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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.64.9.233
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 11:33 am:   

Some interesting articles on the subject here...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/07/women-parliament-election-losses- wins

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/closing-the-gender-gap-why-women- now-reign-in-spain-809619.html
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.64.9.233
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:10 pm:   

Ah. I've been thinking about this since the cabinet was formed and Katherine Viner more or less sums it up for me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/may/12/new-coalition-politics-diver sity-women
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.72
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:40 pm:   

I have no idea why, but in Poland come elections, there are almost as many women standing as men. Though I do base this on the amount of posters bearing the faces of women alongside those of me, so I'm sure my erudite observation/statement is open to suspicion.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:41 pm:   

Which is most important when picking someone for a job? The type of genitals they happen to have? Or the ability to do the job?
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.72
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:59 pm:   

Definitely the genitals, but only if they are visible.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.72
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:00 pm:   

Weber - you do realise between us we have just destroyed Ally's actually rather serious thread.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.72
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:01 pm:   

Or maybe my humour radar is down again, and you were being serious, and it was I who has destroyed the thread.

Ally - apologies.
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Allybird (Allybird)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.64.9.233
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:02 pm:   

51% of the population are women...many of them have the ability to do the job. Clearly it must be a lack of opportunity or something similar.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:04 pm:   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilona_Staller

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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

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Posted From: 79.64.9.233
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:05 pm:   

No problem Frank :>).
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.64.9.233
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:08 pm:   

Zed. She's hardly representative of all women who might want to enter politics.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:10 pm:   

I'm sure that plenty of politicians would want to enter her, though.

(In all seriousness, I'd vote for her over that cunt Cameron)
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.72
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:12 pm:   

I think I've drunk too much coffee..."Though I do base this on the amount of posters bearing the faces of women alongside those of me..." - what the hell...ME...I meant MEN.

Ideas of warped grandeur, I believe.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:14 pm:   

Try using simpler sentences, mate. Less of a margin for error.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.72
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 01:28 pm:   

I try, but it comes out tortured and twisted no matter how hard I try.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 02:13 pm:   

51% of the population are women...many of them have the ability to do the job. Clearly it must be a lack of opportunity or something similar.

Some of the comments on that link state the case a lot more coherently than I could. If the number of women MP's who've been elected is low - that's surely down to the electorate choosing men.

Also, the article fails to answer the point of why a working class, asian woman would be better for a cabinet post than a white, middle class man.
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.64.9.233
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 02:14 pm:   

Zed....your boss will be after you if you stay on here.

Ally's husband steps into office...'Aren't you supposed to be writing?' Oh shit :>).
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 02:17 pm:   

Lunchbreak, innit?
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.64.9.233
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 02:17 pm:   

'Also, the article fails to answer the point of why a working class, asian woman would be better for a cabinet post than a white, middle class man.'

At this rate we aren't going to get a chance to find out, are we.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.72
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 02:21 pm:   

I think perhaps that a working class, Asian woman is probably a lot better qualified to talk about real issues, and more importantly, has far more 'real life' experience from which to draw solutions.
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.64.9.233
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 02:24 pm:   

'Lunchbreak, innit?'

Bladdy long lunchbreak....Ally looks around to find husband behind her again.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.72
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 02:34 pm:   

Some of us have too much time since we are skimming from FB to RCMB.

And that includes me.

Back to writing. Got a day off and this is what I do it with it...well, I have worked this morning, cleaned and hoovered, walked the dogs three times, prepared lunch...I shouldn't be too hard on myself.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 02:39 pm:   

My local MP is a "working class" woman - hazel Blears - I wish she wasn't my MP - not because of her gender - but because she's shown she's every bit as corrupt as any middle man could aspire to be.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.72
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 - 03:09 pm:   

Weber - I keep doing this, making it sound as if I'm naive and believe women are incapable of attaining the same level of incompetency, greed and corruption as men. I don't intend to mean that all. Gender should never be an issue when the person is wholly unsuitable and incapable of doing the job.

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