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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 06:14 pm:   

Is anyone else fed up with the fucking world fucking cup already?
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
Username: Rhysaurus

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 06:22 pm:   

Yes. Very fed up.

I have followed the World Cup avidily since 1978 but I won't be bothering this time round.
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Colin Leslie (Blackabyss)
Username: Blackabyss

Registered: 02-2010
Posted From: 86.132.2.214
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 07:50 pm:   

Yes..and we all know Poe beat the promising youngster Campbell in the final...sorry wrong thread.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.63.114
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 08:32 pm:   

I can't wait. It's only every four years. Stop fucking moaning. :-)
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.158.238.131
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 08:36 pm:   

No I won't !

Four years goes by far too bloody quick!

(I hate footballl -gaaaaaaah!)

gcw
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 08:37 pm:   

I'm looking forward to it! For the first time in many years I won't be up to my eyes in work when the World Cup and Wimbledon are on, so my intention is to flop out on the sofa in front of the telly and have a really lazy time!

The best World Cup I ever saw on TV was the 1990 one. We were in Dublin at the time - I was attending an academic conference (I was in the middle of doing my PhD) and hubby had come with me as we were going to spend the following week on the west coast of Ireland for our holidays. That was the year when Ireland did really well reaching the quarter-finals, and the atmosphere in Dublin was absolutely electric.

The people I was with at the conference were mainly American. They have their own "football" of course, and didn't think much of "soccer", but even they got really carried away with it because of the enthusiasm of the Irish. Brilliant times! Brilliant memory!
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 08:37 pm:   

Oh, forgot to say, my husband's Irish, so he had a vested interest too.
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
Username: Seanmcd

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 86.159.131.192
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 11:00 pm:   

I will be watching avidly. Not every single match but all the biggies. A great pity Ireland failed to qualify this time so i hope the French fall flat on their arses!
And yes, it's only 5 or 6 weeks once every four years or every two if you include the European finals. Big Brother on the other hand is feckin 3 months solid every year for the past 10 years!! Then there's the celebrity dance/ice skating/jungle/X factor/Talent shite which is just endlesssssssssssssssssssssss......
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
Username: Simon_b

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 86.24.209.217
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 11:27 pm:   

If I see one more fekking St George flag... argh! I'm going to get a Welsh flag this weekend (off camping in the land of my fathers) and brandish that just to break the monotony: "Uh-huh. So your flag's what? A red cross on a white background. Mm. That's nice. Know what ours is? A dragon. Yes. That's right. A DRAGON. Hm. Red cross... White background... a DRAGON. Which is cooler? Red cross... white background.... DRAGON... oh bloody hell, don't start crying now...'
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Matthew Fryer (Matthew_fryer)
Username: Matthew_fryer

Registered: 08-2009
Posted From: 90.202.180.152
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 12:34 am:   

Can't wait!
Here's to a few weeks of early drinking and swearing at the telly in the pub!

And I'm gonna think of you Simon when I bung my St. George flag up in the window this weekend. Even though dragons are very cool.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 12:37 am:   

I love the World Cup. But I hope Engerland get knocked out at the group stages, so I can concentrate on enjoying the football.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 82.17.252.126
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 12:55 am:   

I can't bloody wait, despite some of the shine being taken off by what happened Ireland... don't get me started!

I'll be supporting Spain and all the African nations as well as anyone playing England or France...
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
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Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 02:49 am:   

I think Spain will revert to type, crumble under the weight of expectation and go out in the early stages...

Brazil are boring under Dunga. They'll implode too.

France are just, well, rubbish.

Italy are past it.

Can't write off the Germans or the Dutch. But they don't have a Rooney, a Messi or a Kaka.

Argentina have a complete loony in charge.

One of the African teams will make the semis but then go down to nine men.

So this all means that obviously England will win.

QED.

Hurray!



Mark S.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 09:06 am:   

Mark, I have no interest in football at all but thanks to the Samuels Guide to Bluff Your Way in the World Cup now I can ride in a taxi / take my car to the garage for repairs / do a hundred other things that may involve that being the only topic of conversation and see how far I can get before being rumbled.
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Paul_finch (Paul_finch)
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Registered: 11-2009
Posted From: 92.0.204.9
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 09:12 am:   

Everyone knows that football is the most overrated game in the world, and the World Cup the most overrated tournament. But hey - if it gives me an excuse to sup more beer and go to more barbecues than usual, I'm all for it.
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Martin Roberts (Martin_roberts)
Username: Martin_roberts

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.5.239.91
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 01:12 pm:   

I'm with John and Paul on this one I'm afraid.
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.143.178.131
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 01:14 pm:   

I don't do football myself, and some of our street already looks like a BNP bastion with all the George Crosses flying.

Really my dislike of the sport comes from being repeatedly bullied for not being very good at it at school.

Brings people together, football, apparently.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
Username: Mark_samuels

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 01:33 pm:   

Actually the BNP favour the union flag; hence their name, and the association with the "glory" days of empire and all that rotten stuff.

That's not to say the far-right have sometimes tried to appropriate the St G. flag for their own ends. The English Defence League (a rabble mainly consisting of hooligans, as far I can see). But it's up to men of goodwill to resist that trend.

I'll be putting up my flag when the tournament begins and won't feel an iota of guilt over it. Hey, just because you put up a St George's Cross during the World Cup doesn't make you a Nazi sympathiser.

Hell, St George was Lebanese!



Mark S.
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
Username: Rhysaurus

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 01:52 pm:   

Yes, he was probably born in Lod (modern Israel) -- if in fact he ever existed.

The Cappadocians seem to believe he was born in Cappadocia, though.

The flag of Georgia has an interesting resemblance to tghe English flag:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Flag_of_Georgia.svg/800 px-Flag_of_Georgia.svg.png
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 01:56 pm:   

Unfortunately, the St. George's cross has been appropriated by trampoline-gardened chavs who revel in a passive-aggressive form of jingoism-disguised-as-patriotism. I loathe that flag: every fucking untrained fighting dog and their untrained owner round our way has one tattooed on their arse.

Rant over: normal service will now be resumed.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
Username: Mark_samuels

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 01:58 pm:   

Zed

Well, I'm appropriating it back! That'll confuse them!

I'm with Billy Bragg on this one.

Mark S.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 02:03 pm:   

What does Billy say?
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
Username: Mark_samuels

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 02:16 pm:   

Stuff like this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/apr/23/britishidentity

Mark S.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
Username: Mark_samuels

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 02:22 pm:   

And this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2006/oct/01/society.politics

Mark S.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 02:27 pm:   

I agree in principle, but the truth is over the past decade or so I've become increasingly ahamed of being English - I even apologise for it these days. I used to be very patriotic, but these days I'm just embarassed. We're living in a country of knuckle-dragging morons, where looking different, possessing a smattering of intelligence and having an interest in the arts can get you beaten to death by some coke-headed cunt in a Matalan tracksuit.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 02:27 pm:   

I'm ina great mood today. Can you tell?
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 02:36 pm:   

You do seem more cheerful than usual.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
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Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 02:38 pm:   

I take your point. I suspect folk of that ilk will always be with us.

My grandad used to tell me the same thing about Bermondsey on a Friday night in the 1930s. That's why he gave up being a Millwall fan.

Mark S.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 04:18 pm:   

I was bullied (i.e. shouted at) at school too for being crap at football, mainly because I couldn't see the point of chasing after the ball when I could be sauntering about with my hands in my pockets instead.

It took me until Ireland started doing well at an International level (as Caroline nostalgically reminded me - the 1990 tournament was the closest I've ever come to a mass mutual orgasm) to really fall in love with the game and the potential it has for genuinely bringing people together in a sense of shared joy.

Let's not mention the equal potential it has (like politics and religion) for sociopathic elements to vent their violence under a mask of pseudo-acceptance. And also the corporate corruption that has tainted the once beautiful game due to its very popularity and all-inclusivity.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 04:30 pm:   

And the fact that domestic violence increases 50% in this country whenever England play...
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 04:38 pm:   

That's England, Weber... in Ireland replace violence with sex lol.

How they must have partied on VE Day lol.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 129.11.76.230
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 04:52 pm:   

Being a football fan isn't a rational decision. Either you are or you aren't. Nowt you can do to change that, so why try. Be honest. I am. I love footie and will enjoy the World Cup. Domestic violence, the BNP, or patriotism/jingoism has nowt to do with it. It's just me and the game.

So there. :-)
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Paul_finch (Paul_finch)
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Registered: 11-2009
Posted From: 92.0.204.9
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 05:02 pm:   

Football's problem is that, most of the time there's not enough happening on the pitch to keep the masses who've got hopped up on the pre-match publicity and the match-day atmosphere etc entertained. Sure, there are skills on show, but only occasionally (there are way too many dour 0-0 affairs in club football). And there's very little physical contact - and that's a problem. Because when you've got two giant mobs booming hatred at each other (whether real or imagined) from opposite ends of the stadium, physical contact - i.e. combat - is something you need.

That's my lay-sociologist take on why football has become synonymous with crowd violence - not just in England, but in most places where it's played. And that's one very good reason for not liking events like the World Cup, when you see all the ridiculous hype but know full well that most of the tournament will be so boring that even people like me would rather go out looking for a fight (well - not like me in reality, but there'll be plenty who will, especially if England lose).

Now if you take my sport (;>) - rugby league, there is so much violence on the pitch that you come off at the end feeling thoroughly satisfied and often physically drained. There is very little trouble at British rugby league matches, even though the game is still primarily associated with tough, inner urban areas, and teams like Wigan and Leeds regularly play to crowds of 15,000 plus.

Anyway, I've just given the game away regarding my less than complimentary attitude towards football - namely, it's played by softies. So there's no point in me trying to offer further reasonable insights, as you all know the truth.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 05:08 pm:   

Let's face it, if rooney breaks a fingernail he'll be stretchered off.

Put him up against your average rugby player he'd be crying in a corner in 5 seconds flat.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted From: 129.11.76.230
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 05:18 pm:   

So?
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 05:20 pm:   

Ha ha... just heard Rio Ferdinand, the gormless big donkey, is out of the World Cup!

It couldn't have happened to a nicer chap!
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted From: 129.11.76.230
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 05:23 pm:   

He won't be missed. None of em will. I agree that they're a bunch of overpaid spice boys, btw. Lest anyone think otherwise.

But I'm still watching the matches. :-)
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted From: 129.11.76.230
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 05:31 pm:   

Paul, would you say that rugby fans have the same degree of allegiance to their favourite clubs that footballs fans tend to exhibit - you know, in the sense of this allegiance becoming almost a key part of identity?

Also, isn't it true that football is easier to understand than rugby (whose rules are quite complex at times) and that this tribal simplicity attracts the dickheads? (Forgive the jargon.)
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 81.131.175.165
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 06:11 pm:   

Does the World Cup clash with Big Brother?
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Paul_finch (Paul_finch)
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Registered: 11-2009
Posted From: 92.0.204.9
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 06:36 pm:   

Gaz ... there may be something in that. I think rugby league is an easier game to understand than rugby union, which has many more technicalities to it (and is thus a big turn-off for me), but I'd agree that it's not quite as basic as football.

With regard to the other question - there are hard core Wigan RL fans who would follow the team anywhere and would regard this allegiance as part of their identity. But perhaps the hard core of the hard core only numbers about 5,000, whereas in Premiership footy clubs it's significantly more.

I think the other problem footy has it that it's so widely publicised that it attracts all kinds of people, many of whom go for the wrong reasons - not just violence, but to be poseurs, to be camp followers, etc (in other words not because they appreciate 'the beautiful game'). I think the slippery slope with regard to the violence only began properly in the 70s, when organised hooliganism first started to appear. This in itself was so widely publicised that "young lads wanting to blow off steam" (how I hate the phrase - I much prefer "yobs") saw it as the next best thing to being involved in American-style gangs. After that it became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The overseas hooligan thing really depresses me, because, whether it's exaggerated by the press or not, you only need one bad incident in some of these countries for foreign dickheads to respond wholesale and then the whole thing becomes a PR disaster.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted From: 61.216.50.134
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 08:00 pm:   

I'm with Gary and Caroline and Mark - I'm really looking forward to it. I've been a football fan for as far back as I can remember - my mum used to take us on the train to White Hart Lane every month to watch Spurs playing, when I was about seven or eight. It's the same with rugby whenever we're back in Wales. Just about all my relatives are there and they never miss a match. Like Gary said, you either like this kind of stuff or you don't. I've always loved sports (except golf).
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Steve Bacon (Stevebacon)
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Posted From: 90.210.209.136
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 10:14 pm:   

I'm a football fan and I'm excited by the world cup. It does get associated with the bad points - ie, the chavvy yobs - but I refuse to watch the matches in pubs. I'm strictly an armchair world cup fan. I think a tournament like the World Cup transcends football, however; my wife will tolerate a month of live matches - something she'd normally run screaming from.

Having said that I can't feel the same passion for England that I do for my own club (Nottingham Forest).
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
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Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 11:58 pm:   

Dawson is better than Rio anyway!

Way-hey!

The confidence level is rising. Stevie G: the new captain. I'd have made him captain from the start!

Cool...

Mark S.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
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Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 12:04 am:   

Sorry: I'm descending the evolutionary scale (apparently).

Nevertheless...

Mark S.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
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Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 02:22 am:   

Just coming back on this one:

I think the slippery slope with regard to the violence only began properly in the 70s, when organised hooliganism first started to appear.

As I said earlier, my grandpa told me tales of organised Millwall football hooliganism dating back to the 1930s. But the origin of football hooliganism can be traced as far back as the 1880s with the "roughs" who attacked refs and opposition players.

Obviously it wasn't concentrated on to the degree that the media do in recent times, when they realised that running a story about footie fans causing havoc sells papers and makes for attention-grabbing headlines. All of which serves only to pander to the morons who want media attention and "celebrity" status, distracts from the vast majority of non-violent genuine fans, and furthers the agenda of luvvies who want to tar all footie fans with the same brush.

Now magnify those considerations by a factor of 10 when it comes to supporting England.

Mark S.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
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Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 02:34 am:   

I'm using the term "luvvies" as shorthand for those who think sport and art are mutually exclusive, with an interest in the latter meaning no interest in the former can be entertained.

Of course the reverse can also be the case: they're called "Sun Readers"...



Mark S.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 02:37 am:   

Rugby's shit, though: just a load of big blokes in tight shorts, with no real skill and lots of homo-erotic tendencies.

Football, when played the right way, is beautiful.

I remember being lucky enough to be at the Nou Camp for the last game of the 2000-2001 season (Barca v Valencia) and seeing Rivaldo's now-famous hat-trick (the final goal an overhead kick scored in the last minute of the game) to win the last Champions League qualifying place...it was transcendant. Barco fans flooding onto the pitch and dancing with joy; flares and fireworks going off; armed police hugging each other. I'll take that memory to my grave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2ujBOUQIxw

Now, what was that about football being boring?
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
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Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 02:39 am:   

And it's not as if it's simply an English disease. Right now it's worse in Italy and even Ireland isn't free from it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/oct/14/ukcrime.ireland

Over to you, Stevie.

Mark S.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
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Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 02:43 am:   

I can trump that Zed, with my visit to the Azteca (the only venue to have staged two world cup finals) to see a match between Club America (Mexico) and River Plate (Argentina).

AWESOME!

Mark S.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
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Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 02:45 am:   

4-3 it was, to Club America.

Mental.

Mark S.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 02:48 am:   

Very cool, but I think I still hold the trump card there, old bean. Rivaldo's performance on that day is considered by many as the greatest ever in football.

But IMHO it's not as good as Kevin Phillips scoring the sublime winner for Sunderland against Newcastle in the pouring rain...ahhhhhh...poetry.

Football's great.
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Steve Bacon (Stevebacon)
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Posted From: 90.210.209.136
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 09:27 am:   

I watched BBC3's '50 Most Shocking WOrld Cup Moments' in the week. There were some incidents in there that made the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end; the technical brilliance of Maradona, Zidane's mastery. It was, however, like most things today, just representative of the 'modern' game. There was nothing pre 1990. What about Bobby Moore's scandal from 1970, the furore over England's 'goal' in 1966? There must be loads of 'shocking' moments looking further back.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 11:01 am:   

The media seem to forget that football existed before the Premiership.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.12.129.12
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 12:19 pm:   

I go to most Manchester United home matches. they're a great opportunity to sit and read in peace for a few hours in the first aid room.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 12:33 pm:   

Yeah, but you're a nerd. We're the cool kids who like football.
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
Username: Rhysaurus

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 01:15 pm:   

My favourite goal in World Cup history (Well since 1978) is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px9D7CrtyiI

Brazil v Italy
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 01:22 pm:   

That's amazing...if you can't see the beauty in that you're looking with the wrong kind of eyes.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
Username: Mark_samuels

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 01:57 pm:   

Zed

Was Rivaldo's a perfect hat trick though? Left foot, right foot, header (not necessarily in that order but with all the elements?)

Danny Butterfield scored one for my team, the Palace, in the FA Cup against Wolves this season.

Just rather relieved to still have a club to support right now...

Mark S.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 02:04 pm:   

No, I believe it was left foot, right foot, overhead kick. Check out the link: the last goal is amazing. It was the performance, though, that's become legendary: he single-handedly got Barca into the last CL place. Stunning. I remember coming home and seeing it splashed all over the back pages, and thinking "I was there".
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
Username: Mark_samuels

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.142.169.99
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 02:06 pm:   

I just looked at it: sublime stuff indeed!

Ah, but there's only one team in red and blue for me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GWYNLvawLw

Mark S.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 04:29 pm:   

Top class.
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Paul_finch (Paul_finch)
Username: Paul_finch

Registered: 11-2009
Posted From: 92.0.204.9
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 10:02 am:   

Any sport will produce the odd sublime moment. But mostly football is boring.
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Paul_finch (Paul_finch)
Username: Paul_finch

Registered: 11-2009
Posted From: 92.0.204.9
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 10:08 am:   

By contrast, I'd argue that rugby league - while perhaps not as skilled, is a game which, when played properly, requires immense courage, discipline and fitness. And for that reason - for me at least - is far more admirable.
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 88.104.140.73
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 11:20 am:   

Bought a new telly and every time England scores a goal I'll get £10 back.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.9.56.47
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 11:31 am:   

So you'll get about £20 off then if you're lucky before the soft jessies get knocked out
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.26.154.208
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 11:52 am:   

The beauty of sport is the eye of the beholder, Paul. No point in trying to get an objective grasp on this. Liking football or rugby or whatever isn't an accumulation of reasons (eg, admiring fitness, etc); it just is. Either you do or don't. I can't say why I love football and dislike rugby, really. I mean, I could invent a few spurious reasons (indoctrinated in childhood, etc), but they wouldn't really capture it. So I don't bother. In fact, there's no use even debating the issue. So . . . well, I'll shut up. :-)
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.26.154.208
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 11:53 am:   

>>>Bought a new telly and every time England scores a goal I'll get £10 back.

How much did it cost, Ally?
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 12:46 pm:   

I liked ze Brüno-esque Vanity Fair spread of ze footie boyz in zer Calvin Klein underpants. Ja!
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Paul_finch (Paul_finch)
Username: Paul_finch

Registered: 11-2009
Posted From: 92.0.204.9
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 12:49 pm:   

Hey ... I should add that I'm pretty well out on a limb with my view of my football. In fact, it wouldn't be going too far to say that I'm more or less out of synch with the rest of the world.

I can't say why I've felt that so many big footy matches I've seen have failed to live up to their hype, but no doubt to some viewers the same can be said of just as many RL matches. I agree with you absolutely, Gaz, that what constitutes a cracking game is in the eye of the beholder, and there are lots of reasons why we may like one sport and dislike another, which we can't actually pin down.

So yes ... I'll also shut up on this matter, and hope that I haven't offended any footy fans out there too much.

PS: I'll be watching the World Cup like everyone else. When it comes to standing on principles, I can be a bit shallow.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   

I think Weber liked that one, too...
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 - 01:47 pm:   

My world cup predictions

Every fucker will decide that they’re actually the greatest football manager in the world and try to tell me how they would have organised the England team – no matter how often I tell them I’m not fucking interested.

England will play shit again and all the useless soft bastards on the pitch will be paid the equivalent of 2 years of my pay for running round a field for 90 minutes being shit.

The drunken idiots on my sister’s street will decide that England playing shit is a good enough reason for having a series of running fights in the street outside my sister’s house.

My neighbours will use the football as an excuse for another 12 hour drinking session.

Most of Manchester will be a no go area again because of the idiot drunk football fans.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 - 01:52 pm:   

Can I just add the word ANOTHER in front of "Series of running fights" in the above post.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 - 04:58 pm:   

Another prediction - most of the football fans at work will come in virtually every fucking day of the competition saying "God that was a boring match last night"
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 - 05:19 pm:   

You can say that again... only seen two half decent matches of any quality so far: Argentina v Nigeria & Germany v Australia. All the rest of the "big" teams have woefully underperformed - including Ivory Coast v Portugal as we speak.
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
Username: Simon_b

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 86.24.209.217
Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 - 10:16 pm:   

For once, Weber, I'm in complete agreement with you... and if I see one more fucking St George flag.... grrr.
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Paul_finch (Paul_finch)
Username: Paul_finch

Registered: 11-2009
Posted From: 92.0.197.237
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 11:25 am:   

Even given my lack of enthusiasm for the World Cup, I think it's been a bit of a damp squib so far. My son is very keen, but is getting more despondent with each match.

The really odd thing is - went to a big barbecue for last Friday's game. Lots of footie fans were there, but after the first five minutes most people were just drinking and chatting. Lots of chairs arranged in front of the telly, but by the second half they were largely empty.

Is the World Cup just a big excuse for a summer piss-up?
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 04:54 pm:   

Is the World Cup just a big excuse for a summer piss-up?

Yep. An excuse for all the knuckledragging moronic subhuman flagwaving dickheads to pour enough alcohol down their throats to kill a large elephant.
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Mark_samuels (Mark_samuels)
Username: Mark_samuels

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.133.23.20
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 06:54 pm:   

An excuse for all the knuckledragging moronic subhuman flagwaving dickheads to pour enough alcohol down their throats to kill a large elephant.

"Come and join us, come and join us, olé, olé, olé. We love you Weber, we do, oh Weber, we love you."



Mark S.
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
Username: Johnny_mains

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 82.22.75.99
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 06:56 pm:   

Go Switzerland! Your first prediction is nearly half-way home Mark!
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 03:41 pm:   

There is something good about the World Cup.

I just realised, the reason I don't even know the names of any of this years Big Borer contestants is because the world cup is monopolising the front pages instead. So while it's on we don't get any front page headlines about no-mark nobodies sat in a house making cups of tea and being boring.

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