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Frank (Frank)
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Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.72
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 02:58 pm:   

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jun/23/david-cronenberg-jonathan-lethem
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 04:14 pm:   

At last, Cronenberg returns to what he does best - dark cerebral fantasy.
I look forward to this... but hope 'The Fly' remake is a nasty rumour (please don't play Funny Games!).
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Mark West (Mark_west)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.39.177.173
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 05:12 pm:   

Sounds good - and I was surprised (and pleased, because if it's got to happen, let's do it right) that he's up to direct "The Fly" remake.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 82.17.252.126
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 07:54 pm:   

Director's own remakes of earlier classic works really confound me. It just seems such a waste of time and talent.

Hitchcock couldn't better 'The Man Who Knew Too Much' and neither could his closest contemporary, Michael Haneke, with 'Funny Games'. Both remakes were good but ultimately redundant when set alongside the frankly unbetterable originals imo.
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Stu (Stu)
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Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 86.29.74.5
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 09:59 am:   

Howard Hawks remade Rio Bravo as El Dorado and both films are classics. There's a few changes to the story -- I believe that RB was based on a short story and ED was based on a novel by a different author -- but basically they're the same film.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 11:15 am:   

I prefer Hitchcock's second Man Who Knew Too much myself. And I do think An Affair to Remember is as fine as Love Affair.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.26.154.208
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 11:45 am:   

>>>Hitchcock's second Man Who Knew Too Much

I constantly find it astonishing that some folk reckon the first version is superior or even equal to the second. The second version burns in my brain with its unrelenting insidiousness: the 'walk' along the streets, the 'sedating' of Day, the whispering informant, the powerfully choreographed opera/assassination sequence. Stunning virtuousity. And I don't think these masterly techniques make only a cosmetic difference.
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Stu (Stu)
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Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 86.29.74.5
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 11:50 am:   

Never seen the original. Only seen the remake with Day singing Que Sera, Sera.

Or as Norman Stanley Fletcher would say, kiss her what?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.240.106
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 11:51 am:   

the powerfully choreographed opera/assassination sequence

Oh, yes. That scene is tremendous.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.26.154.208
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 11:52 am:   

I know nowt about films, but didn't Hitch make an unqualified virtue in itself of set-piece sequences? Pure cinema doing what only cinema can do. Same with North by Northwest*: unapologetically entertaining in terms of cinematic spectacles. Spielberg does the same, I think, in many films. Revelling in virtuosity. Nowt wrong with that.

* The crop-spraying plane sequence makes little sense because if you're going to try and kill someone, would you really hire a plane in this manner? But who cares - it's fucking brilliant cinema!

* Ditto the much debated (here, at least) pharmacist scene in Darabont's The Mist - right, Craig? :-)
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Stu (Stu)
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Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 86.29.74.5
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 11:57 am:   

The crop-spraying scene makes more sense than Hitchcock's original idea of the villains trying to kill Thornhill by unleashing a tornado.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.26.154.208
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 12:01 pm:   

That's what Obama's done with BP. :-)
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 82.17.252.126
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 02:36 am:   

I thought the remake of 'The Man Who Knew Too Much' was brilliant in some of its set-pieces (in particular, the incredibly tense finale) but Doris Day was fatally miscast and the film just didn't hang together as a satisfying whole in the way the rollicking original did - a thoroughly entertaining and wonderfully atmospheric thriller that is up there with 'The 39 Steps' as one of his greatest early classics imho.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 10:51 am:   

He was on a contract with his American studio to remake one of his English films, he picked MWKTM. That's all there was to that. He was still fresh to Hollywood studios and he had no choice but to do it. Personally I think the second is better.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 12:24 pm:   

You're right, Stu, 'El Dorado' is almost indistinguishably as good as 'Rio Bravo'. If forced at gun-point to pick one over the other I'd have to go for the original though.

I've never seen 'Love Affair', Ramsey, and was unaware McCarey remade it as 'An Affair To Remember' - one of my very favourite weepies!!

Get this, I've just found out that tomorrow night my local indie cinema is showing one of those all-time monumental cinema classics that I've never seen before... Jean-Luc Godard's 'Breathless'. At long last, after donkey's years of <don't> expectation I'm finally going to see it!
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 02:37 pm:   

To return to the title of this thread, apparently he's got really bad backne - like boils all over his back it is.
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Stu (Stu)
Username: Stu

Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 86.29.70.124
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 04:49 pm:   

>>You're right, Stu, 'El Dorado' is almost indistinguishably as good as 'Rio Bravo'. If forced at gun-point to pick one over the other I'd have to go for the original though.

I always used to say El Dorado was my favourite. Partly 'cos I remember seeing it when I was a kid but partly 'cos I think it's funnier and has a more exciting ending. Still, RB is a classic too and I'll quite happily watch either of them.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 01:32 pm:   

"He was on a contract with his American studio to remake one of his English films, he picked MWKTM. That's all there was to that. He was still fresh to Hollywood studios and he had no choice but to do it."

Are you sure? He'd been in Hollywood for fifteen years by the time he remade the film.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 02:37 pm:   

Just going by what it said in the "making of" doc on my DVD. He was under contract to remake something.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 03:58 pm:   

Ah! I must check that out.

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