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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
Username: Rhysaurus

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:36 pm:   

Does anyone have any ideas for new anthologies. I do mean serious ideas, but I also mean daft ideas, if necessary.

For instance, I have long wanted to see an anthology of toothache stories. Believe it or not, there are some tremendous toothache stories out there!

Another anthology I would love to see happen is:
THE MAMMOTH BOOK OF PREHISTORIC ELEPHANTS

Yes, that's a (crap) joke -- but it could also be a real anthology -- of super-duper caveman stories!
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:40 pm:   

Some day I want to edit an anthology of all-new Miserablist fiction - or maybe also featuring reprints of classic Miserablist stories.

It'll be called MISERABLIST BASTARDS.

I've wnated to do this for a few years now.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:45 pm:   

I want to do an anthology of stories set in Brentwood, Essex. It would be called AN ANTHOLOGY OF STORIES SET IN BRENTWOOD, ESSEX. I'd probably try and sell some copies to shops in Brentwood. I think it would be pretty good. Obviously if you live in Brentwood, you'd probably get more from it. But that shouldn't preclude enjoyment for any non-Brentwoodian readers.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:50 pm:   

If it goes well, I might do a sequel set in Didcot.
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:51 pm:   

An anthology of hypocritical stories. I'm not being flippant. This is a project I have secretly cherished for a long time.

Each story would promote a theme that the author doesn't really believe in. So an atheist would write a Catholic story; a person who supports military intervention would contribute a pacifist piece; an elitist would write an egalitarian story, etc.

Title of anthology: POT AND KETTLE.

I wish to stress again that this is a serious proposal.
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:52 pm:   

If it was successful, the sequel could be called: CAULDRON AND SAMOVAR.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:53 pm:   

I'd buy that.

(I wouldn't really.)
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:55 pm:   

Yeah, you'd just borrow it for free from the library.

But what if Germaine Greer was persuaded to contribute a woman-in-her-place story?
Or if Salman Rushdie offered a pro-fundamentalism tale?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:56 pm:   

Rhys, if you do that anthology, could I write a story about someone with no talent, who is hideously ugly and has a microscopic penis?
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:58 pm:   

I'd like to see a global version of your Where the Heart Is, Gary - with stories set in different countries. Not necessarily countries the authors are from, either. Just places that have inspired horror.

I'd also love to see anthos with music and food as central themes. That's two separate anthos, obviously.
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 02:59 pm:   

Heh heh! :-)
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:00 pm:   

I'll take that as a yes. So . . . the tale about the cock gets a slot.

Kate, I may well do that one!
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:00 pm:   

Kate: I agree with both your proposals. My laughter was for Gary's earlier comment!
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:01 pm:   

Kate, has Lord P not got a copy of The Elastic Book of Music?
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:01 pm:   

I think such an anthology would foreground what many authors do as part of writing fiction - adopting the viewpoint of someone quite unlike themselves - in my case John Horridge, for instance, or Dudley Smith. (At least, I hope they aren't like me...)
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted From: 86.23.15.37
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:01 pm:   

My penis has that effect on most people.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted From: 86.23.15.37
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:11 pm:   

>>>I think such an anthology would foreground what many authors do as part of writing fiction - adopting the viewpoint of someone quite unlike themselves - in my case John Horridge, for instance, or Dudley Smith. (At least, I hope they aren't like me...)

Just as a (tangential to the thread) matter of interest, Ramsey: which of your characters do you consider to be the closest to you in an biographical sense?
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Posted From: 78.22.234.38
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:19 pm:   

There's a Dudley Smith in LA Confidential.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted From: 86.23.15.37
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:20 pm:   

Don't tell everyone!
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:23 pm:   

I do love your idea, Rhys. It would be a fascinating venture!
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:40 pm:   

Lord, Gary! Still, all must be revealed... Characters like me include Peter in The Face That Must Die and Peter (again!) in "Napier Court". Not so much autobiography lately that I'm aware of, or more correctly it's in the themes more than the characters.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted From: 86.23.15.37
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:42 pm:   

Interesting . . . Thanks.
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Posted From: 78.22.234.38
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:40 pm:   

Not even a trace of autobiography in Needing Ghosts, Ramsey? I ask because this, to me, is one of your most interesting stories ever . . .
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 12:24 pm:   

I think you're right to spot me in Needing Ghosts, Hubert!
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
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Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 12:55 pm:   

Call me sick if you want (tee-hee!), but I'd like to see an anthology with illness and disability as a theme. It would be best, of course, if it was done in a way to raise awareness of issues faced by the sick and disabled. I guess doing it as a charity book would be the best course of action?

Ramsey - when I read "Needing Ghosts" you were the one I pictured in my mind as I read it.
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
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Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 82.22.75.99
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 04:34 pm:   

I was talking to Dave Riley maybe about a year ago with a couple of ideas for an antho

1: Re-writing your first ever published short story with the same themes, ideas et al, and see where it endeded up. Could it be done? WOuld the story come to the original conclusion?

2: Get a pool of authors together and if they were up for it, get them to re-imagine either classic stories or even each others short stories.

They may or may not work, but I think the ideas are interesting...
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.15.37
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 04:57 pm:   

Number 2, the latter suggestion, might be fun.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.15.37
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 04:58 pm:   

Yes, if I'd written, say, Oh Whistle and I'll Come to You, how would it work out?

I like this idea. Can I nab it? :-)
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Mark West (Mark_west)
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Registered: 03-2008
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 05:16 pm:   

Could be a very interesting idea, especially if it's a writer who hadn't read much of the original author's body of work.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 05:17 pm:   

Can I rewrite Wuthering Heights as a gay pantomime?
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 05:19 pm:   

I thought it already was...
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Allybird (Allybird)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 88.104.142.59
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 05:20 pm:   

'Can I rewrite Wuthering Heights as a gay pantomime?'

Oi! Leave your favourite novel alone.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 05:33 pm:   

I often leave that novel alone, Ally. Usually on the wife's shelf where it can do me no harm.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 05:35 pm:   

"Quivering Shites", as I like to call it.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
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Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 06:55 pm:   

>>.. re-imagine either classic stories ..<<

Angela Carter was pretty good at re-imagining fairy tales in that way.
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Allybird (Allybird)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 07:08 pm:   

Angela Carter...wonderful writer and not mentioned enough, Caroline.

Anyone else like her?
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Tony (Tony)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.131.109.71
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 07:21 pm:   

A book of stories charting the 'history' of horror. Not the classic literary kind, more the 'man eating animal' varieties of Herbert and Smith, the weird Victorian flashbacks of the sixties and early seventies, the wimsy of Gaiman and the like. Even the tweeny horror of now. Each story would slightly send up the scource material, or rather riff on it, address it. Maybe even improve. It would reflect cinema and comics, too, so we'd have slasher stories and Exorcist stuff, EC/Creepy/EERIE stylees.
Wish I could put this sort of stuff together.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 81.131.109.71
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 07:22 pm:   

Sequels to your favourite stories, however loose.
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
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Posted From: 82.22.75.99
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 07:43 pm:   

Gary, it's yours if you want it - I was going to do it as a Noose and Gibbet antho. I would however like to try and write a story for it, if you went ahead!
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 07:44 pm:   

Tony - I've already written a sequel to Bram Stokers 'The Judges House' which is being published in the 'Obverse Book of Ghost Stories' this October. Had a LOT of fun with that one!
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 07:47 pm:   

Oh and Angela Carter's 'The Bloody Chamber and other Stories' is a work of breathtaking splendour. If you haven't read it - do so. Seminal and quite genius.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 07:51 pm:   

Ooh, you do realise that the word 'seminal' is anathema to Carter's broadly feminist approach, don't you? :-)
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 07:52 pm:   

As for the antho, I'll mull it over a while and get back to yez.
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 07:57 pm:   

= Ooh, you do realise that the word 'seminal' is anathema to Carter's broadly feminist approach, don't you? =

Oh well, thems the breaks.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 08:00 pm:   

I've been an admirer of Angela Carter since I picked up a copy of The Magic Toyshop back in my uni days. The Bloody Chamber is terrific (I was lucky enough to get a signed copy), but her other collections are great as well - Fireworks and Black Venus, for example. There's a big omnibus of her collected stories called Burning Your Boats, but for some reason I really love the Penguin trade paperback editions of her books from the '90s.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 08:11 pm:   

Yeah, she's a real prose monster. Great stuff.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 08:25 pm:   

Some of her stuff can seem sort of overly lush and dense and 'overwritten' (the opening of 'The Lady of the House of Love' comes to mind), but I think she pulled it off because she was such a natural writer. Her non-fiction is worth reading too.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 08:41 pm:   

Oh, I love all that heady prose. Her, Amis, Barnes - fantastic.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 08:49 pm:   

I love it too, Gary, but I know some people hate it! I find it intoxicating.
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Mark West (Mark_west)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 09:49 pm:   

I got into Carter through "The Company Of Wolves" film in the 80s - cracking stuff.
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Allybird (Allybird)
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Posted From: 88.104.142.59
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 09:56 pm:   

'Angela Carter was pretty good at re-imagining fairy tales in that way.'

There you go...time for it all to come around again :>).

Between us all there are loads of good ideas for anthologies.
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Stephen Theaker (Stephen_theaker)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 07:41 am:   

Not a new idea for an anthology, but one I really liked, was From the Notebook: the Unwritten Stories of F. Scott Fitzgerald, part of McSweeney's 22.

Each writer chose a fragment from Fitzgerald's notebook - e.g. "Girl and giraffe" and "Fairy who fell for a wax dummy" - and wrote a story based on it.
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Kate (Kathleen)
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Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 08:15 am:   

Well-known stories told by a different POV character - ideally the "villain"
(inverted commas for Lord P's benefit).

And Angela Carter - ah yes, sublime!

"His wedding gift, clasped round my throat. A choker of rubies,
two inches wide, like an extraordinarily precious slit throat."
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
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Posted From: 82.22.75.99
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 04:55 pm:   

I'd like to see an anthology where all of the horror stories by that great mysterious ANON are collected together. I'm sure there are a few, and just go for the ones you are sure the identity hasn't been figured out for, and you get the stories for free!

:D
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 86.170.179.157
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 06:27 pm:   

I'd like to see an antho based on what happened AFTER various tv series folded.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 86.170.179.157
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 06:28 pm:   

In fact I have this old Good Life last episode story going, one from years back.
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Barbara Roden (Nebuly)
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Posted From: 142.179.14.129
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 07:34 pm:   

'I'd like to see an antho based on what happened AFTER various tv series folded.'

Tony: try to find a copy of the story 'Distant Signals' by Andrew Weiner, which appeared in TWILIGHT ZONE magazine in the early 1980s and was adapted for TALES FROM THE DARKSIDE in 1985, starring Darren McGavin. The whole episode is, I think, up on YouTube. It's about what happens when a 1960s TV show is cancelled before the writer has a chance to complete the story arc and tie the threads together, and what happens years later when a fan of the show decides he wants to see it finished.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted From: 217.171.129.72
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 05:29 pm:   

I seem to remember a great response from Angela Carter to a critic who said her prose was too purple: 'Fuck off.'
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Posted From: 217.171.129.72
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 05:31 pm:   

Idea for a new anthology: Stories No-One Would Publish.

Of course, this would be an on-going open submissions anthology, and any accepted pieces would immediately be disqualified from appearing.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted From: 86.23.108.128
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 05:59 pm:   

Mark, got your email - will reply asap. But Wednesday lunch in Leeds is good for me. You?
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.231.151
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 06:05 pm:   

How about Stories by Writers Who Can't Write?
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
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Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 06:32 pm:   

Hubert: that has already been done, many times... There was a horror anthology back in the 1990s called Cold Cuts that did that, for example.
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Joel (Joel)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   

Rhys, do you mean the whole series or just the first book? I liked the series more and more as it went on.

Steve Bishop and I had an 'alternative rejection slip' for the Birmingham Noir anthology:

Thanks for your submission. However, we regret to inform you that Birmingham Noir is a crime fiction anthology and not a sperm bank.
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Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.171.129.68
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 07:17 pm:   

Gary - Yes, I think Wednesday's good.
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
Username: Johnny_mains

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 82.22.75.99
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 09:09 pm:   

An anthology based on characters who survive in classic horror stories? DO they see their shrink? Kill themselves? Eat tofu and read Proust?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.108.128
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 09:11 pm:   

Good stuff, Mark. I'll email you on Saturday. Just finished work and more of the same tomorrow! :-(
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Degsy (Degsy)
Username: Degsy

Registered: 08-2010
Posted From: 86.134.93.9
Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 09:34 pm:   

I realise that someone surely must have done this before - but I'd love to see an anthology of attempts to complete famous 'unwritten' tales.

The classic example of course, would be 'The Giant Rat of Sumatra': the tale 'for which the world is not yet prepared' from the Case-Book of Sherlock Holmes.

Then there are the synopses from 'Stories I have tried to write' by MR James. I'd love to have a go at the one about the two Cambridge undergraduates' visit to the Witch of Fenstanton.

My personal favourites are from the 'Calliope' segment of Gaiman's 'Sandman' where the main character gets cursed with constant inspiration and spouts out a story idea every second.

(Amongst others.)

"A man who inherits a library card to the Library of Alexandria."

"An old man in Sunderland who owned the universe, and who kept it in a jam-jar."

"A biography of Keats from the Lamia's viewpoint."

"Two old women taking a weasel on holiday."

(I particularly like the last idea.)
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.27.152
Posted on Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 09:49 pm:   

>>>An old man in Sunderland who owned the universe, and who kept it in a jam-jar

I know him. Despite being billions of years old, he's surprisingly well preserved.

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