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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 03:09 pm:   

Does anyone else get annoyed when you see a film trailer, think 'That looks good', go to see the film but find out that you already know the shock end scene because you saw it in the f***ing trailer? The closer you get to the end of the film, the more annoyed you get because you've seen this money shot for the film and you're piecing the story together already based on something you know is going to happen.

The worst for this recently was Paranormal Activity which actually showed the last shot of the film in the trailer. It meant that I was expecting the end which certainly detracted from the tension.
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 03:18 pm:   

Oh yes, that annoys me too! Also, these days you can't keep anything a secret so you almost HAVE to show the monster/creature/great FX sequence in the trailer because otherwise it'll just be on the Net. Lord P and I are really looking forward to seeing Splice this weekend. We saw a teaser at FrightFest last October that gave nothing away and was all the more intriguing for that. The trailer shows the creature, however, which means it won't have any kind of shock value in the film. Still, it looks like good fun.

There's a real art to making trailers and what's almost worse is the fact that very often a trailer is a short film worth seeing while the actual film isn't. Best example recently was Drag Me To Hell. The trailer was a fantastic film all its own but the movie was a big letdown. Same with Sorority Row.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 03:21 pm:   

Oooh yes, Splice - from the director of Cube. That was all I needed to be convinced I need to see that one. The rest of the trailer was pretty good as well though. It may well transpire that I now know major plot developments which will irritate me afterwards, but I WILL go see that film.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 129.11.77.198
Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 03:39 pm:   

No, but I hate it when I see a film and it's so abysmally bad that it spoils my subsequent viewing of the trailer.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.255.44
Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 04:29 pm:   

The worst of recent memory was for QUARANTINE.

And a film I just saw that was dogshit, but the trailer was quite good, was THE FOURTH KIND.
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John (John)
Username: John

Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 82.24.1.217
Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:30 pm:   

I have some kind of mental blind spot when it comes to trailers, and have usually forgotten any spoilers by the time I get around to watching the films.

That said, I went to see Predators recently, and there was a scene in the trailer that was nowhere to be seen in the actual film. Indeed, it was a scene that could not have been in the film as it contradicted the plot by suggesting there were a dozen alien hunters, when there were only three.

The director says that the scene was filmed specifically for the trailer. Could turn into a worrying trend.

I see FrightFest mentioned above. Anyone going this year?
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Stu (Stu)
Username: Stu

Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 82.18.194.175
Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 07:46 pm:   

Iron Man 2 had scenes in the trailer that didn't make it into the actual film. And The Onion did a skit on the first Iron Man -- "Wildly Popular Iron Man Trailer To Be Adapted Into Full-length Film!"
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 10:40 am:   

The trailer for Hitchcock's Rope featured an actor who was never seen in the film.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.122.107.152
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 10:49 am:   

Iron Man 2 was AWFUL. Predators was AWFUL. Remember when kids made a film because they had a good rubber suit, so wove a plot around it and set the the whole thing in a wood? That's PREDATORS.
Fourth Kind is one of the dullest films I have ever seen.
Splice looks great, mind.
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 11:00 am:   

Remember the original trailer for Men in Black? "You know how to use these things?" "No idea whatsoever."
I don't remember that being in the film at all.
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
Username: Simon_b

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 86.24.209.217
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 11:05 am:   

Sometimes trailers contain bits that were cut from the theatrical release. Knowing how studios can bowldlerise or mutilate films, not surprising.

Great line from the 'Die Hard' trailer that wasn't in the finished film:

Alan Rickman: 'You really an American?'
Bruce Willis: 'Only if New Jersey counts.'

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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:22 pm:   

Predators is an excellent little film, a real return to what made the first one so damned good. Big dumb action, virtually plotless but great to look at with some of the most understated dialogue since "We're going to need a bigger boat.". I know it's never going to win any awards but I really really enjoyed this.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.122.107.152
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:24 pm:   

The best Predator film is AVP. It's like a Harryhausen film, really wondrous in places, something the others haven't been. Not perfect, of course.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:26 pm:   

AVP is poo with a captal POO. It really is rubbish. I tried rewatching it when it was on the other night, see if I'd misjudged it... no I hadn't.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 82.17.252.126
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:33 pm:   

'Predator' is one of the best sci-fi/horror films ever made, 'Predator II' was great fun in a guilty pleasure kind of way but 'Aliens vs Predators' was pure bollocks from start to finish and an insult to both franchises imo. I'm very dubious about this new "reboot".
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.122.107.152
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:33 pm:   

On the whole ALL the Predator films are pooy really. I don't really love any of them. From all accounts one of the games is their best thing. AVP just had a soupcon of wow the others didn't have, you know, for me.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:37 pm:   

Predators looks pretty good to me. I love the first film and the second was very entertaining. I think those AVP things are bilge, though (sorry, Tony!).
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John (John)
Username: John

Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 217.20.16.180
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:43 pm:   

Predators is good fun. Nothing earth-shattering, but a worthy enough sequel to the first two. The best thing about it was how old-school the action was - i.e. real explosions and rubber suits where possible.

I don't think any of the films are masterpieces by any stretch of the imagination, but they're decent entertainment.

I'm with Zed on the AvP films.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 82.17.252.126
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 03:45 pm:   

I remember going to see 'Predator' when it first came out, without knowing a thing about it, and I can honestly say it was one of the greatest cinema-going experiences of my life - the 'Jaws' of the 1980s! I came out of that movie having been wowed to the ends of my toes - a brilliant, scary, exciting, incredibly suspenseful rollercoaster ride of a movie with one of the coolest monsters I had ever seen! After 'The Terminator' it remains Arnie's finest hour (of relatively few) imo.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.122.107.152
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 04:04 pm:   

The second AVP was awful. A lost opportunity given that the trailer was actually pretty good.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.122.107.152
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 04:05 pm:   

Yeah, the first one was good back then. A rewatch now and it's ok.
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Skip (Wolfnoma)
Username: Wolfnoma

Registered: 07-2010
Posted From: 216.54.20.98
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 04:10 pm:   

I enjoyed the first Predator. The others I did not like. As for the new franchise Hollyweird is doing with AVP, I barely tolerated AVP and I refuse to see Predators on principle.

I guess what I am trying to say is that I really want some originality in my movie going experience.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 04:16 pm:   

You're missing a good film... I highly reccomend it.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.122.107.152
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 04:32 pm:   

To be honest, if ALL the Predator and even Alien films but the very first ones were edited out of our minds we really wouldn't be missing much. The first in each had anything the others might have wanted to say (except that strange tubular tunnel, the temple deep in the earth, the alien queen cracking out of the ice...! ;) )
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 05:27 pm:   

The trailer that contains material not in the film isn't new, believe me. For instance, the trailer of The Return of Dr X consists almost wholly of footage not in the film and an entirely different plot! I still remember seeing The Fiend who Walked the West when I was fifteen or so and sitting there confident that the killer wasn't really dead at the end (because there was still a scene from the trailer to come), only for THE END to come up. And check out that trailer for I Vampiri, John and Kate!
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John (John)
Username: John

Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 82.24.1.217
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 08:52 pm:   

I don't know, Tony. I'd certainly miss the alien queen from Aliens if the sequels were all wiped from existence. The last great hurrah of large-scale puppet work in the movies.

Still somewhat wary of Ridley Scott's plans for a prequel (ptoo!) to Alien. Could go either way - unnecessary, but there's some promise there.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.79.101.151
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 10:08 pm:   

Leave ALIEN 3 in my skull, please. It's a beautiful, tattered failure.
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John Forth (John)
Username: John

Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 82.24.1.217
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 11:58 pm:   

Did you see the assembly cut version of Alien 3 on the DVD, Proto? It's still a bit of a mess, but an improvement on the original cut.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.79.101.151
Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 12:31 am:   

Sure, it's much better, but still fatally flawed. The film was to be about despair - what do you do when everything that gave your life meaning is removed? What will you find when you're forced to dredge for strength within yourself?

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