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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 09:17 am:   

Has anyone seen this? We read about it in Video Watchdog (a Turkish giallo) but haven't got round to buying it. Ramsey, you're bound to have seen it - is it worth grabbing?

Here's the info for anyone curious:

kadindusmani

A genuine TURKISH GIALLO from 1967! At that time, the italians had just started warming up on the genre while their best examples came years later. This Turkish lost, spooky, misty, gothic giallo horror stands on its own, faithful to itself, quite original in ideas, full of surprises and almost empty as far as "similarities" to other films are concerned! The only surving print was found in very good condition and ONAR FILMS is presenting it in another worldwide premiere.

And the link:

http://onarfilms.com/index.php?mod=descr&id_desc=12&keyword=kadin+dusmani&Submit=Go
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.91.114
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 09:23 am:   

I've seen it.
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 09:31 am:   

And?
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.79.100.182
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 09:55 am:   

Gary, a couple of years ago you'd see so few films that Arrival of a Train at La Ciotat (1896) made you flee into the street. Now you're watching '60s Turkish gialli?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.91.114
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 09:56 am:   

I haven't really. I haven't seen any films. Well, not compared to the junkies on here.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.91.114
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:10 am:   

Proto, it's a fair cop. I was fibbing my li'le head off. :-)
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.79.100.182
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:14 am:   

Ah. You could have so blagged your way thought that. Just talk about mise-en-scene and use the near-meaningless word "style".
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.79.100.182
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:14 am:   

"through that"
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.91.114
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:20 am:   

My review based on the poster:

Well, I thought the early scenes were evocative, using stylish, modern design to highlight the amorous tension between the two quite able leads. Then when the intrigue settles in, there's a transition in direction from the stately and refined to the taut and erratic. The visuals develop a gaudy aspect, which perfectly reflects and enhances the wavering psychology of the central characters. And the finale is a set-piece to behold: a collison of all the forces the director has hitherto marshalled - the tenderness of the lady, the ruggedness of the guy, and all the rolling experience of their time together here. A fine film indeed.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.91.114
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:22 am:   

See how I resisted the phrase "Turkish delight"? I'm above The Sun, me.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.79.100.182
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:29 am:   

These are skills honed by writing proposals for research funding? Nice.

Here's a film quiz.
What film star do the French call "the sacred monster" and the Italians "the ugly"?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.91.114
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:35 am:   

Yes, I am a master at both composing and digesting abstracts.

Gerard Dep'.
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 11:01 am:   

Wow. I seem to have crossed over into some weird von Trier-esque arthouse horror land...
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
Username: Rhysaurus

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 11:18 am:   

I really have seen this film. Believe it or not Roger Moore is in it!
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
Username: Rhysaurus

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 11:19 am:   

No, I'm lying as well -- but look at the male lead on the poster.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.23.91.114
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 11:28 am:   

Looks more like Dudley Moore to me.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 11:46 am:   

I really have seen it. It is a fascinating portrayal of existential angst through the medium of the nubile Swedish lesbian milkmaid and her various couplings with similarly nubile leather-clad Swedes (mostly human female, occasionally the vegetable). This is interspersed with random acts of ultra-violence using such diverse implements as garden shears, a pair of bright green oven mitts, a hamster and a kumquat.

Ok Iím lying. Iíve not seen it either.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 12:08 pm:   

It's interesting as a Turkish attempt at the genre - occasionally effective in a naive way - and not as hilarious as the Turkish films I've reviewed in there.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.79.100.182
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 01:07 pm:   

What film star do the French call "the sacred monster" and the Italians "the ugly"?

Time's up. Charles Bronson.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.251.20
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:07 pm:   

I just watched the trailer for this on youtube, Kate.

It looks like a turkey.
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:12 pm:   

Thanks, Ramsey!
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:16 pm:   

And thanks Craig - I hadn't even thought to look for a trailer!
Hmmm... I can probably think of a better use for £15.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.251.20
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:34 pm:   

But then, if you're a completist, Kate... and must see all the giallos out there....

I'm such a fan myself of giallos, that despite this looking sub-par, I'd probably still watch it, if I stumbled across it somewhere.
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 213.122.209.76
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 06:09 pm:   

Oh, I would too, Craig. And yeah, I've bought and sat through countless awful giallos in the process of amassing all the good ones!
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 61.216.44.3
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 06:25 pm:   

Proto, I was going to guess Bronson, but I was in a rush to go out for my nephew's birthday. What made me think it might be him is that he was a huge star here in Taiwan in the 1970s and early 1980s. When I arrived here I remember how funny it was to see that all the shop window mannequins were based on him. He visited Taiwan several times, and the last time he came a journalist asked him if agreed that he was one of the world's ugliest men. I remember him looking nonplussed and then irritated. His wife interjected, saying she thought he was one of the sexiest men, if not the most handsome. Apparently it caused quite a stir in Taiwan and Bronson didn't come back for a long time...

Oh, and while we're talking about Bronson, I think it's time to revisit this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8bqVL0VXrE
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 89.19.88.110
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 09:47 pm:   

"the last time he came a journalist asked him if agreed that he was one of the world's ugliest men."

I know he was a tough guy, but OUCH.

I've just watched FAREWELL FRIEND (released in the US as HONOUR AMONG THIEVES) - such a bizarre, hypnotic, alive film. The first third is interesting, the middle third is a compelling and odd safe-cracking set-piece and the last third is a slow wind-down with a very odd, muscle-twitch fast shootout at the end. Well worth seeing if you need your third eye opened up.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.5.1.254
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 04:36 am:   

When I took a film theory class at university some years ago, the very first film the professor showed us, breaking it down into the careful masterpiece it was (so he taught) was... THE MECHANIC.

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