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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 02:48 pm:   

... in a monster movie?

What do you think is... wait for it... the most ludicrous moent in a monster movie?

My vote has to go to the bit where we find out Godzilla can fly by looking down and flaming between his feet at which point he takes off like a rocket in Godzilla versus the Smog Monster.

Can anyone top that?
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
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Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 03:37 pm:   

My candidate for most ludicrous moment is when it becomes apparent that Dracula (or any other vampire) can be seen with the human eye but doesn't have a reflection in a mirror, suggesting either that:
(a) the photons emitted by a vampire are different to all other photons, shattering on hard surfaces (like mirrors) but being safely absorbed by soft surfaces (like eyes), or
(b) angles of incidence are different for vampires, which is not only impossible in the general sense of the term but logically impossible; as it ignores the fact that the rules of geometry are analytic propositions.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 03:38 pm:   

What's the one with the giant killer turnip, with stuck on face and buck teeth, that lives in a cave, and gets around by being pushed by supposedly unseen human hands?

Or the one with some guy crawling around with a shag rug thrown over him?

Or the big rubber hand in 'Attack Of The 50 Foot Woman'?

No, it has to be the one where the alien monstrosity is a man in a gorilla suit, wearing a deep sea diver's helmet!

All of those films I know only subliminally from briefly glimpsed clips... and I've long wanted to see the complete product.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 03:44 pm:   

Rhys - there's a moment in an episode of Angel where he's acting as bodyguard to a minor celeb, walking her down the red carpet and none pof the photographers stop and stare through their SLR cameras and wonder why they can see him when they look up but not through their lenses (which of course work through use of mirrors).

I believe the whole 'no reflection' thing is something to do with not having a soul and enters the realms of metaphysics instead of conventional physics, so I don't really mind that one.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 03:50 pm:   

There was an interesting moment in 'King Of The Zombies' where our comic hero, Mantan Moreland, has been hypnotised into believing he is a zombie, and joins the rest of the shambling undead for chow. The only way our resourceful black heroine, the really rather cute Marguerite Whitten, can convince him he isn't a zombie is by showing him a mirror and pretending if he were recently raised from the dead his reflection wouldn't show, which breaks the spell, leading to much hilarity when he realises where he is!

I still wonder if they realised or deemed it important that they'd got the wrong monster?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 03:59 pm:   

The bit in Jurassic Park where Sam Neill first confronts the T-Rex. I mean, it's just crazy, isn't it? Someone giving Sam Neill more work . . .
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 04:27 pm:   

Any actor who was as convincing, as the adult Damien, as Sam Neill was, in 'Omen III : The Final Conflict', as well as appearing so memorably in two other of my all-time favourite horror films; 'Possession' & 'In The Mouth Of Madness', gets my unreserved thumbs up. I've always found him a likeable and charismatic presence in any film he's appeared in. Which reminds me, I must get to see 'Dean Spanley'.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 04:27 pm:   

Is that the scene where the cliff suddenly appears where there'd only been a goat tethered in a flat field on the left of the road 30 seconds previously? Watch the scene - as they drive up and stop, there's no cliff anywhere in sight on any side of the car. Once the T-rex is there they can't get away because of the cliff that's suddenly there. Who needs continuity
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 04:28 pm:   

that was a reply to the Fryster.
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Darren O. Godfrey (Darren_o_godfrey)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 04:41 pm:   

There was the big lead-in to the T-Rex's first appearance: The earth-shaking thumps, the vibrating water in the glass...

...and then, at the end, where no one (not even the velociraptor) senses the T-Rex's approach. Surprise, there he is.

Must've tip-toed into the building.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 04:42 pm:   

Never noticed that, old chap. I was too busy rolling my eyes at Sam Neill's casting.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 05:07 pm:   

Aside from the original 'King Kong', of course, 'The Valley Of Gwangi' is still my favourite dinosaur movie.

'Jurassic Park' is a great show, one of Spielberg's most entertaining thrill rides, but flawed by the presence of those damn kids, and Richard Attenborough's twinkly-eyed performance.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 05:08 pm:   

"I was too busy rolling my eyes at Sam Neill's casting."

I noticed he wasn't very good at fishing as well.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 05:11 pm:   

I don't mind the kids in the first JP, the flaws in that film are the gaping holes in continuity.

The kids in the other JP's though, they're not good additions. The little black girl knocking out a Velociraptor using her school gymnastics was very silly and the kid in the third one who'd survived alone on the island for weeks but was helpless as soon as the heroes showed up... worse than Newt in Aliens. She does exactly the same thing.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted From: 129.11.76.215
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 05:19 pm:   

>>>I noticed he wasn't very good at fishing as well.

Ah ha, you rose to my bait.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 05:37 pm:   

I find it hard to forgive Spielberg his insistence on having child protagonists in his genre films (the rot set in with 'Close Encounters' and was enshrined by the success of 'E.T.' imo) when the very movies he grew up on, and enjoyed himself as a child, were made all the more effective by their strictly adult casts and the seriousness with which they treated the material. Kids don't need talked down to, by having plucky children their own age to supposedly engage with, in fantasy movies. Children enjoy being terrified and want to see reassuring adults in control, they know they're not trained in the art of survival ffs.

The best thing about 'Alien³' was the killing off of bloody Newt in the opening moments, I totally agree with you. Edward Furlong almost ruined 'Terminator II' for me as well, bloody whizzkid.
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted From: 82.210.188.215
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 05:44 pm:   

Talking of Alien, one of the most disputed 'actions' by Ripley was when she went back for the cat before the Nostromo self-destructed. A lot of people said it was condescending to suggest that because she's a woman she would do such a thing. Me, personally, I've come to admire that.

One of the best films which sends up all those ludicrous plot turns is Murder By Death. Glorious stuff.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 05:45 pm:   

Having kids in genre films isn't just to give the young audience someone to relate to, it's about innocence in peril. Adults often feel an instinctive protectiveness towards children and a big monster threatening a child on screen (IMO) is more scary than when it's threatening Arnie Schwarzenegger.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 05:54 pm:   

I'd have gone back for the cat... without hesitation.
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 06:00 pm:   

Cats are pretty good at fending for themselves. In this instance I think it would have been smart enough to stick with the last human on the ship.
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 06:56 pm:   

That part in HUMONCULUS RISING where the possessed cobra-monster pretends to be a theater director and the actors dont' seem to notice anything's wrong. "More feeling!" Simply ridiculous.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 08:39 pm:   

I think the film's called "Night of the Lepus", or something like that? Anyway, it's the one with the supposed giant rabbits (*long* before Wallace and Gromit and "Curse of the Were-rabbit" ). There's this thundering noise, and the backdrop is clearly a blown-up film of lots of little fluffy bunny rabbits running along. The actors in the foreground, meanwhile, are running for their lives from this herd (wrong collective noun?) of giant bunnies. Never fails to have me rolling around the floor in laughter, that one!
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 08:48 pm:   

Re: Vampires and reflections

It could be that the vampires are actually invisible, and what humans see is a mere image psychically projected into their mind by the vampire. This could even explain the SLR situation -- a photographer, even a pro, won't be consciously thinking of there being a mirror involved, and so the mind will process it the same as if they were just looking directly at the vampire, whereas a reflection, photograph looked at after the fact, or video image seen from a distance (such as on CCTV) won't be subject to the psychic projection because it is more obviously distinct from viewing something directly.

The gorilla-suit-with-diving-helmet is, I believe, the cinematic masterpiece Robot Monster.

Does Attack the G8 Summit's revelation that the former Prime Minster of Japan was actually (an unnamed) Kim Jong-Il in disguise count? Or does the fact that it's intended to be ludicrous disqualify it?
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 08:49 pm:   

Of course, if we expand the remit to TV then there's a clear winner regarding ludicrous monster moments ... and I have to say it's Doctor Who! One of my favourites is the cuddly looking bull thing in "The Horns of Nimon". And who can forget Bertie Bassett ... I mean, the Kandy Man ... in "The Happiness Patrol"?

The original TV series of "Lost in Space" had some wonderfully silly monsters too - they looked just like men dressed up in a variety of hairy monster suits.

Going back to film, how about one of Karloff's films "The Ape"? That apesuit was just so awful it made me cringe.
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
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Posted From: 12.165.240.116
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 09:08 pm:   

I should admit that I made mine up.
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Mbfg (Mbfg)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 09:10 pm:   

Lost in Space was, as you say, awash with daft monsters. apparently the actor who played a hairy, one-eyed giant in one of the early episodes got so fed up with the model John (or ws it Don) beign dangled in front of him to wipe at in a dramatic and menacing way as he baked in hia giant-suit, he grabbed it and smashed it to pieces. Also, when the actors palying the mum and dad were overcome with giggles as they fought a pack of giant vegetables, Irwin Allen punished them by giving them virtually no lines in the subsequent couple of episodes.

And kids were the bane of that series, Will-bloody-Robinson was a pain, espcialy when all I wanted to watch was the gorgeous Marta Kristen as Judy. There were far too few episodes that featured her.

Whatever happened to the lovely Marta? She never answers my calls...

Cheers
Terry
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Mbfg (Mbfg)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 09:11 pm:   

Just re-read my last posting. My spell-chck must eb borkne!

Cheres Terrrrry
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 09:43 pm:   

Chris,

With some of the movies I've discovered through the RCMB, I thought you were serious.
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Ian Alexander Martin (Iam)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 11:20 pm:   

Personally, anthing in the worst horror filmthat I've seen will easily be topped by anything viewed by either JLP and/or Kate, as their reports of films' events make me shriek "WHAT?!?" at my computer screen on a regular basis.

So… besically I'm ordering one of the two of them to fill us in on the one they feel is te most ludidcrous, as that will be the topper of anyone's.

...unless it involves Burt Reynolds, in which case Gary Fry will provide it for us, being the expert in that specific field.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 03:07 am:   

I have every series of 'Lost In Space' on DVD and a very large part of that is because of fond adolescent memories of Marta Kristen <sigh>. That pout, those jutting breasts, the worried frown, how I wanted to comfort her...

Series 1, in black & white, is actually really good, although my fav episode is the one where Will travels back in time to 1920s Earth - I think it's in Series 3?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 03:32 am:   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubYC5h0jmq0
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 03:36 am:   

The giant chicken attack on Food of the Gods takes some beating.
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 07:29 am:   

...the zip in the monster suit? Not quite. Somehow,to me, that works as an endearing factor.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 08:42 am:   

Yes, resident Burtophile, me. Any and all questions answered about the maestro.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 09:13 am:   

What's the one with the giant killer turnip, with stuck on face and buck teeth, that lives in a cave, and gets around by being pushed by supposedly unseen human hands?

It's actually a cucumber, from It Conquered the World

Or the one with some guy crawling around with a shag rug thrown over him?

Creeping Terror - how marvellous

No, it has to be the one where the alien monstrosity is a man in a gorilla suit, wearing a deep sea diver's helmet!

Robot Monster by Phil Tucker. Lovely.

Yes I've seen all of these & I think Ian's comment probably holds - I'd be here all day listing ludicrous moments from movies I love, but for now let's stick with Sting of Death, William Grefe's Southern US pic about the man who turns himself into a jellyfish, which involves the actor having an inflated balloon placed over his head to simulate jellyfishness.
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted From: 85.222.86.21
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 09:42 am:   

ONLY ON THIS BOARD ARE YOU LIKELY TO READ,'It's actually a cucumber,' as a serious response at correcting somebody.
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 10:45 am:   

Volkswagen Beetles dressed up as giant spiders.
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 10:47 am:   

Sean Connery in a nappy via Zardoz!
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Rhysaurus (Rhysaurus)
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Posted From: 212.219.233.223
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 11:20 am:   

This film is rather ludicrous...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnasfM3UtDc

"Don't say it -- hiss it!"

"King cobra versus mongoose -- or is it man versus man?"
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 11:24 am:   

Has anyone actually seen the film Barn of the Blood Llama? I've got the poster for it at the top of my stairs at home but I've never managed to find a copy. I'm wondering if it would be worth the effort?
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 12:36 pm:   

My MUST GET list continues to grow and grow... I take it all these titles are commonly available on DVD?

'Robot Monster' stands out for me, I didn't realise it has become seriously respected as a dream logic depiction of a young boy's nightmare!!

But that clip from 'Sting Of Death' will take some beating in the crap monster stakes.
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Frank (Frank)
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Posted From: 85.222.86.21
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 12:54 pm:   

There's a very very low budget British sci-fi film made in the late fifties or early sixties, whose end credits unintentionally reveal cars travelling past in the background...even though the film was about survivors of some 'alien' attack battling some rampaging robot.

Does anybody have any idea what film I'm referring to.

I remember it was shown on Channel Four late at night in the early 90's, and the announcer commented on the unintentional background detail.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 01:13 pm:   

It wouldn't have been 'The Earth Dies Screaming' (1964) by any chance? That's the only one of Terence Fisher's Planet trilogy I haven't seen. The other two, 'Island Of Terror' & 'Night Of The Big Heat', are all-time favourites of mine.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 02:50 pm:   

It would, I think! I actually saw it at the cinema, and wondered if I'd dreamed the vehicles.
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Mbfg (Mbfg)
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Posted From: 212.219.63.204
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 03:32 pm:   

"The Lepus" giant man-eating rabbits! Nuff said. I think it was a TV movie from the 80s or 90s.

And Mr Walsh, Marta is mine, oh, she never said it overtly but the signs were there. The town in the "Lost in Space" episode you mentioned was called Hatfield Four Corners (why do I remember that?) and yes, it was one of the better ones. My favourites are the one with the wishing helmet and the one where Judy falls into a mirror and becomes trapped in the mirror world.

Cheers
Terry
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 04:50 pm:   

'Night Of The Lepus' (1972) is a great movie, and insanely bloody for a film about giant rabbits! I caught it late one night in my early teens and genuinely thought I was hallucinating. The cast is sensational; Stuart Whitman, Janet Leigh, Rory Calhoun & Doctor "Bones" McCoy himself. Love it, especially the Peckinpah styled slow motion attacks and gore effects!!

Okay, you can have Marta, if I can have Gabrielle Drake in 'UFO'... deal?
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
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Posted From: 12.165.240.116
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   

>> Has anyone actually seen the film Barn of the Blood Llama?

I've seen it. The acting is solid -- especially the guy who played the llama, oddly enough! -- but the story is weak. Llamas are scary, sure, but it's sort of hard to believe a llama would exhibit that much prejudice against humans. And the murders of all the black people leave the film open to accusations of racism.
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
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Posted From: 12.165.240.116
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   

Okay I made that up, too.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
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Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 82.38.75.85
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 07:47 pm:   

Chris! You are naughty! I keep thinking you're serious.

Thinking of blood and animals, how about the infamous Blood Beast Terror? That giant moth thing is a bit silly really. Once again, it's another example of Peter Cushing acting his heart out even when the film's awful (as he does in Corruption too).
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Stephen Theaker (Stephen_theaker)
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Registered: 12-2009
Posted From: 62.30.117.235
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 08:10 pm:   

Baby Godzilla riding in a truck was pretty daft in the last Godzilla movie I saw.
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Stephen Theaker (Stephen_theaker)
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Registered: 12-2009
Posted From: 62.30.117.235
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   

Godzilla: Final Wars, that was it. Loved the bit with the American Godzilla, though.

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