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Thomasb (Thomasb)
Username: Thomasb

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 69.236.176.133
Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 08:36 pm:   

Sorry, Probert, but there are some of us who simply can't stand Halloween. Read my annual rant against the holiday (mentioning the Landlord, plus stuff on a short-story collection about bridge climbing; and an essay on reading a Japanese detective novel in translation at: http://www.redroom.com/member-blog/Thomas%20Burchfield/

Someone has to open that forbidden door . . . .

Cheers
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.178.82.216
Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 10:59 pm:   

I have to be honest; I'm no fan, and have watched dismally as, over the past fifteen years or more, media and stores alike have pushed people towards 'celebrating' Halloween here in the UK. I love horror fiction and horror films, but Halloween, and especially bloody Trick or Treat, really does nothing for me.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 85.222.86.21
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 12:01 am:   

Ah, it's what you make of it, not what others push down your throat.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.31.194.128
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 07:48 am:   

Ye miserable bastards!

Now, Christmas . . . well, that's quite a different kettle of kippers . . .
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.197.117
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 10:46 am:   

To be fair, it's only 'trick or treat' that's a problem. And even then only in the leafy suburbs. Where I live it never happens, as the only people who would open the door for some kids are not people even those kids would want to encounter.

If you haven't read Alan Ryan's classic 1980s anthology Halloween Horrors, look out for a second-hand copy. Streiber's 'The Nixon Mask' is breathtaking.
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.237.21
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 11:11 am:   

Sounds like an interesting hood, Joel.
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Patrick Walker (Patrick_walker)
Username: Patrick_walker

Registered: 01-2010
Posted From: 79.79.184.34
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 12:19 pm:   

Teenage kids knocking on your door gone nine in the evening with "Trick or Treat" mumbled in monotone and accompanied with a "begging" gesture is bad enough but when I have to reply "it's only October the 29th, lads", well, that just takes the piss.

I wonder who here gives to Trick or Treaters.
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Thomasb (Thomasb)
Username: Thomasb

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 69.236.174.135
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 05:54 pm:   

I live on the edge of an extremely tough neighborhood in West Oakland, Ca, USA, in a compound of houses, of which mine is far far in the back. So, at least, I'm NOT bothered by T or Ts and haven't been in many years. I get the impression trick or treating is more a suburban tradition than a city one.

Still, I fantasize about having the *real* Dracula, Wolfman, Frankenstein Monster et al, available when the little nippers come knocking. That'll teach 'em!
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 06:33 pm:   

In Yorkshire, we also have a thing called Mischief Night (does it extend into Lancashire too?) which happens the night before Bonfire Night (for non-UK RCMBers, Bonfire Night is 5th November, when we celebrate Guy Fawkes who tried to blow up the Houses of Parliament a long, long time ago). Anyway, Mischief Night is just an excuse for yobs to go wild and terrorise the neighbourhood. We're quite lucky where we are now, we don't get much trouble (just a few eggs thrown at the windows and fence panels kicked in), but I always hate this time of year because of the problems it brings.
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
Username: Giancarlo

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 85.116.228.5
Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 11:11 am:   

Halloween is a washed down tradition harking back to ancient times when people arrayed themselves as ghosts to stave off being recognized as living beings by real ghosts who were supposed to walk the night. Children were kept tight at home.
As an aside, Christmas is a symbolic date originally relating to the birth of the Persian god Mithra who later became the hypogeal protector of Roman gladiators. He was sacrificed as the Bull whose spilt blood was collected in the "fossa sanguinis" to be partaken between the rite officiants to incorporate his martial spirit. Is it a crude precursor to the Roman Catholic Eucharist, or is the religious Mystery of Blood the center of the nowadays festivity?
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.237.21
Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 04:23 pm:   

Is it a crude precursor to the Roman Catholic Eucharist

It very probably is. See Frazer's The Golden Bough.

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