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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 02:26 pm:   

Our favourite internet troll's rolodex seems to have opened up on me today.

I've had a fraudulent homophobic paypal bill, an abusive email, Frank has had an email insulting me and I've got another mention on Shocklines - to which I have replied - check it now before Matt deletes the thread.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 99.126.164.88
Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 03:26 pm:   

What is wrong with people?!?

Or, "people," as the case may be....
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 09:36 pm:   

Er ... I think this is one of those threads where my brain has either stopped functioning correctly, or you're talking in some kind of code. I'm afraid I haven't a clue what you're talking about Weber. But abusive and insulting communications aren't very nice. What've you done to warrant that, Weber?
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 11:36 am:   

I asked him why his magazine had different titles on the front and back covers and left a negative review of one of his books on Amazon.

Good news though, apparently he's been banned from Yuku completely for threatening to shoot someone in the head. So he will no longer be appearing on Shocklines. Maybe that means there won't be so many disappearing threads.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.68
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 11:48 am:   

Mr Pacione is the offender referred to, Caroline. He also recently posted an abusive and wholly gratuitous comment about my old friend Poppy Z. I previously made an effort (perhaps too much of one) to treat him like a gentleman, but he's now aware that's over. I should mention that Marc originally antagonised him by daring to question his publishing methods.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 12:01 pm:   

Antagonised is a bit strong. I politely asked the questions above and he decided I was on a par with Dave Boyer.

Since then I may have phrased things in such a way as to push his buttons a bit harder - but even that was mainly just calling him Nicky and making a joke about writing a story with the same title as one of his.

Oh yes, and I posted a bad review of one of his books on Amazon which apparently is Slander...
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Kate (Kathleen)
Username: Kathleen

Registered: 09-2009
Posted From: 86.131.0.116
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 12:21 pm:   

Oh yes, and I posted a bad review of one of his books on Amazon which apparently is Slander...

No, that's libel.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 12:41 pm:   

Only if it's untrue. Every word of my review was true.

In any case, I'm only quoting little Nicky when I say slander. That's what he's using as the reason for sending me paypal bills for £650

this was the merchant's note on the one I got yesterday

Note from merchant
I charge a penalty for that you fucking prick. So I hope you can afford the bill coming to you. Fucking turncoat piece of shit. I wonder if you were sucking the boyfriend of Sammie Cox off and got AIDS. Asshole.


This is the merchant note on the one I got today as a result of posting on Shocklines to tell him not to waste his time.

Each time you slander my name and books

You will be billed 650 GBP, consider this a fine for each time you do it. You should have never picked a fight with me because I am going to it really cost you and each time you slam a project on Lake Fossil Press, I will be billing you every step of the way. I am going to make it hard for you.


This was because I called him Nicky when I told him not to bother sending any more. as witnessed by the email he sent me along with today's bill.

Every time you smear my name on Amazon.com or a message board and I catch you do it -- I will send you a bill for 650 GBP. Especially calling me Nicky -- how would you like it if I constantly called you faggot or poofter? Well it's the same thing dickhead. I will not let you wreck sales of my books or disrupt the magazine.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.68
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 12:45 pm:   

"Antagonised is a bit strong. I politely asked the questions above and he decided I was on a par with Dave Boyer."

"Antagonised" in the sense of "aroused opposition in", but I see your point, Marc! I took Mr Pacione to task about his ridiculous Boyer comparison at the time.
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
Username: Johnny_mains

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.31.118.252
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 01:07 pm:   

Caroline - here is Mr. Pacione's blog. He should probably be banned from the internet...

http://npacione.wordpress.com/
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.143.178.131
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 01:14 pm:   

I think that completely ignoring this tool is possibly your only option at this stage. Acknowledging them just gives them fuel. Although I realise when you get horrible messages like that it's a bit hard not to respond.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 01:16 pm:   

Bloody hell. There are some strange people on the internet, aren't there?

Weber, you much be racking up quite a bill with this guy by now!

Seriously, don't let it get to you. We all know you're a good guy.
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
Username: Johnny_mains

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.31.118.252
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 01:35 pm:   

I think this should be his epitaph - taken from his blog:

'I am getting sick of people calling me a plagiarist when I donít plagiarize my work.'
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 01:45 pm:   

Yes, but if he takes ill and goes into hospital we can all pretend that he was a very nice chap after all and wish him well.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.166.117.210
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 01:47 pm:   

Jon: the word "tool" has to be one of the best terms of abuse ever. It never fails to make me laugh and should be used more often.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 01:53 pm:   

I'm not letting it get to me.

He's so pathetic it's funny to be honest.

the fact that Yuku itself has banned him - not the moderator at shocklines but Yuku itself - has to speak for itself what a tool he is.

Johnny, that's only one of his blogs. He has at least 8 spread across the internet and they're all pretty similar. illiterate and generally bloody stupid homohobic rants and wild accusations against whatever imagined misdeed is fluttering through his cranium at the time.

Gary F, please, if he does ever apply for a login here, just say no.
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.143.178.131
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 02:00 pm:   

As a writer he's managing to horribly bury his 'career' before he can even get it started. No publisher worth their salt would touch such poison.
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Johnny_mains (Johnny_mains)
Username: Johnny_mains

Registered: 04-2010
Posted From: 86.31.118.252
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 02:02 pm:   

8 blogs! I have trouble keeping one up to date...
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.143.178.131
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 02:06 pm:   

Writers pay note. Publisher's have access to the internet too. Seriously, what an absolute idiot.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 02:22 pm:   

>>Writers pay note. Publisher's have access to the internet too.<<

That's an interesting one. It's not just writers who need to beware. There have been many incidents of people applying for jobs and not getting them because prospective employers have looked at what they've said online (eg. Facebook accounts, etc) and decided they wouldn't be suitable to employ. I think a lot of people forget that everything which is written online is open for anyone to view. If you say something silly, it can count against you in any context - eg. job applications. The internet's a dangerous tool (sorry, couldn't think of a better word!) if a person isn't careful.

>>Yes, but if he takes ill and goes into hospital we can all pretend that he was a very nice chap after all and wish him well.<<

On that blog Johnny posted, I saw something (albeit quickly - I might have been mistaken) which suggested Mr P is, indeed, disabled. It seems a shame to me that a lot of people who either cause, or get into, trouble on the internet have illnesses which, I guess, make them a little "bitter and twisted" for want of a better phrase. I'm not condoning bad internet behaviour from any quarter, but it's worth remembering that if someone says something out of turn on the internet, it may be that there's something pretty awful going on in their lives which makes them like that. Not making excuses for anyone or anything, but it's worth thinking of the other person concerned too. I don't think some people are "tools" for no good reason. But then some of them might be!
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 02:25 pm:   

He keeps playing the "I've got a mental illness, feel sorry for me" card.

It doesn't work. If he actually took his meds, he might not be such a tool.
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 88.111.132.33
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 02:33 pm:   

"I think that completely ignoring this tool is possibly your only option at this stage. Acknowledging them just gives them fuel. Although I realise when you get horrible messages like that it's a bit hard not to respond."

Yes. Try to ignore it but in this instance I'd find it difficult, too. I still get a troll or two having a go at me but I'm learning to ignore them.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 03:26 pm:   

http://www.blurty.com/users/nickolaus/

http://nickolauspacione.blogspot.com/

http://authorsden.com/nickolausapacione

http://npacione.ulmb.com/

there's 4 more for you
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 99.126.164.88
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 04:00 pm:   

He really is a "Saturday Night Live" skit! An evil The Situation. He'd make a hilarious skit, with the only downside being, it's so inside.... But maybe not, everyone's known types like this in their lives, I think.
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
Username: Jamie

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 99.241.48.210
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 06:47 pm:   

Weber,

Perhaps you should contact Paypal admin about these fraudulent and abusive invoices you're receiving?
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Matthew Fryer (Matthew_fryer)
Username: Matthew_fryer

Registered: 08-2009
Posted From: 90.195.182.42
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 09:27 pm:   

He's thrown those absurd bills around before. I'm surprised Paypal haven't already got involved. Maybe nobody can be bothered to complain, due to the inevitable streams of vitriolic bad grammar that would ensue.

Oh, and tool is definitely one of my favourite mild pejoratives. Along with bell end.
Actually, should that be one word? Bellend. Or possibly hyphenated? Bell-end. Hmmm.
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Ian Alexander Martin (Iam)
Username: Iam

Registered: 10-2009
Posted From: 207.6.255.47
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 01:56 am:   

"Knob" and "Douche-bag" (plus the derivation of the activity therefrom "douche-baggery") are my faves.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 10:59 am:   

I already have contacted paypal admin about them. so have several other people in the past. the usual advice they give is to just ignore the requests.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.55
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 11:55 am:   

I've also contacted Amazon.com and pointed them at the reviews of his foreskin collectives book. There are at least 6 negative reviews with updates telling Nick not to send abusive emails...

Fingers crossed he could lose his sellers account on Amazon as a result. Wouldn't that be a shame
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 92.8.26.209
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 10:57 pm:   

I am complimented by Mr Pacione! I quote (indeed, I paste) from "An Author's Blog":

"I have a famous critic now on the message boards, none other than Ramsey Campbell. I heard of him but havenít read his work, I respect Ram."
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
Username: Simon_b

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 213.106.77.123
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 11:06 pm:   

'Ram'?! Ye Gods.
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David_lees (David_lees)
Username: David_lees

Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 92.22.10.204
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 11:55 pm:   

WAITAMINUTE.

Tabloids like to abbreviate people's names i.e. Robert Pattinson is R-Patz.

The tabloid celebrity abbreviation of Ramsey Campbell would be R-Cam.

ARKHAM.

ARKHAM BELL.

(or is this one of these things everyone else noticed years ago and decided it was too stupid to comment on? That happens to me a lot.)
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
Username: Simon_b

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 213.106.77.123
Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 01:00 am:   

It is a sign from the Elder Gods! IA SHUB-NIGGURATH! THE GOAT WITH A THOUSAND YOUNG!

(Etc, etc)

Although the image of the landlord as a tabloid celeb- doubtless complete with chunky gold bling from Mr T's House of Crap, and quite possibly a baseball cap worn sideways- is potentially even more disturbing...
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.26.131.123
Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 11:51 am:   

The curry houses in Bradford have collectively summoned the Goat of a Thousand Young, because that stuff they put in their dishes certainly isn't lamb.
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Rosswarren (Rosswarren)
Username: Rosswarren

Registered: 11-2009
Posted From: 109.157.61.223
Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 11:53 am:   

The thread on Shocklines where people kept posting Spiderman memes was the most interesting thread on there in years. Like slowing down to check out an accident; you know you shouldn't but you just have to look
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.239.242.163
Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 01:19 pm:   

Now it's been nuked it's dead boring there again
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 02:05 pm:   

Weber, when you say you've had a fraudulent homophobic Paypal bill, how many authentic ones have you received?

Reminds me of the Inland Revenue anecdote about the tax collector who suggested a businessman repay his tax debts at the rate of £5,000 per anum. The businessman replied: "I've heard of paying through the nose, but that's a bit much."
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.176.179.114
Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 05:31 pm:   

Arf arf!
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.145.132.209
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 12:22 am:   

Part of me wants to feel sorry for Nicky. But then he opens his mouth and starts on people and I realise that he brings it all on himself
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 01:43 pm:   

Hang on, Weber Ė was it a fraudulent homophobic papal bill?
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 178.116.60.39
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 04:26 pm:   

I'm beginning to think it might have been a fraudulent homophobic papal bull.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.66.23.11
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 06:22 pm:   

Not unless Nicky's been promoted to world prominence I think not.

I love the fact that he's proud that Ramsey has criticised him. The fact that ramsey said his writing was almost laughably bad seems to have escaped him.

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