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     Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
What do people think of Aranofsky directing the forthcoming Wolverine film - Frank Miller on script duties? | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.166.117.210 |
Not a lot. | ||
| Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.78.35.175 |
I did find that Miller's script style doesn't necessarily translate well to the screen. | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
I'm really not sure what to think about it myself, lots of shots of the back of Wolverine's head as he walks down endless corridors on his way to defeat the bad guy??? it could be the greatest superhero film of all time or it could be a real dog. Frank Miller did write the rather awesome Sin City script so that's a positive... | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
you not an Aranofsky fan Zed? I would have thought he was right up your alley... | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.166.117.210 |
Yeah, I am. But the last thing I want is yet another interesting director making a superhero film...Nolan's Batman films were enough. I'm pretty sick of superhero franchises, remakes and "reimaginings". Leave that to the hacks, and let the real talent make something original. Please. | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
Let's not forget Singer's X-men Ang Lee's Hulk (ok that was pants) Raimi's Spiderman (let's forget number 3) It means we're getting some good films in the popcorn fodder. | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
I can see your point though Zed | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.166.117.210 |
The best of your list was Ang Lee's "Hulk", IMHO. "X-Men" seemed good at the time but is actually pretty poor, especuially the ending. And Raimi always made pulp horror/comedies, so "Spiderman" was actually a step up for him. | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
"And Raimi always made pulp horror/comedies, so "Spiderman" was actually a step up for him." I negate your statement with A Simple Plan - a folm my brother was convinced was by the Coens till I pointed out it said Raimi in the credits... | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
The Edward Norton Hulk movie was much better than Ang Lee's botch job IMO | ||
| Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.78.35.175 |
In principle I am not so fond of superhero movies, yet time after time again it turns out that I like most of them ! My favourite was probably Iron Man. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.166.117.210 |
I'd say A Simple Plan was a one-off - he's never attained those levels of subtle artistry since. He was trying to make a Coen film...they used to work together, didn't they? | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
Shame on you all! The reason Sam Raimi's first two films - 'The Evil Dead' & the criminally underrated 'Crimewave' - created such a nuclear explosion in early 80s genre cinema was specifically because they were collaborations with his friends Joel & Ethan Coen! Compare both films with 'Blood Simple' & 'Raising Arizona' to see what I mean. 'A Simple Plan' was Raimi's untypically restrained, all too obvious and thankfully successful attempt to emulate their critical and commercial hit with 'Fargo'. The only other truly adult film he has made was the half-hearted and forgettable 'The Gift'. Raimi is an often inspired (when surrounded with good collaborators) but more often than not self-indulgent (when not) comicbook director. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.166.117.210 |
Which is, basically, what I've just said. In less words.  | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
Raimi has the technical skill but lacks the originality of vision of the Coens. In many ways he is a poor man's Peter Jackson. But at least he hasn't directed anything quite as abysmal as 'The Lovely Bones' (shudder). | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.56 |
The Lovely Bones had some great moments. I can't say that I loved it but I certainly didn't hate it. It actually brought out some of the horror aspects of the story that bypassed me when I read the book. | ||
| Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.68 |
On superhero films, do we include Hellboy? I thought the second one had some extraordinary scenes and in general was pretty fine. | ||
| Stu (Stu) Username: Stu Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 86.29.79.239 |
Aronofksy wanted to do a Batman film with Miller years ago so it's not THAT big a surprise that they've teamed up to do a Wolverine film. (Although, I have to admit I'd forgotten about the Batman project until now.) Plus, Aronofksy worked with Jackman on The Fountain so he had an in to the Wolverine project. No idea if it'll be any good. Way behind on Aronofksy's films and Miller is very hit and miss as a writer. Not to mention the fact that his screenplays tend not to be as good as his comics scripts -- Robocop 2 anyone? Plus, although this is supposed to be an adaptation of the Wolverine mini-series it probably won't be a straight adap in the same way as Sin City. Miller did EVERYTHING on the Sin City comics -- script, pencils, inks, lettering -- on Wolverine he was a penciller who had a lot of input into the story but Chris Claremont wrote the actual script. So Miller's probably going to want to stamp his own personality on the story by adding all kinds of Milleresque flourishes. And it took three Sin City stories to make up one film; the Wolverine mini-series is going to need a lot of padding to make up the screentime. Still, all that said, I'm curious to see how it turns out. | ||
| Stu (Stu) Username: Stu Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 86.29.79.239 |
Apparently Christopher McQuarrie is scripting the Wolverine film, not Frank Miller. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.166.117.210 |
Christopher McQuarrie is scripting the Wolverine film This makes me slightly more interested... | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
Ramsey, I'm a big fan of the 'Hellboy' films and consider them (along with Raimi's 'Spiderman' series) the best of the modern slew of superhero films. As everyone knows, I'm not a fan of big CGI extravaganzas but one thing CGI does well is bring comicbook action to life as we always imagined it should look. The larger-than-life lack of subtlety in CGI effects is an actual asset when it comes to superhero films - and that's the only genre it should be given free reign in, imho. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 88.104.137.65 |
I decided that my shrewd 12 year old daughter could watch Kick-Ass. We watched it together. A remarkable performance by Chloe Moretz. Screenplay by Jane Goldman. |