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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.145.134.216
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 06:48 pm:   

I just moved today from working in st james house for salford PCT to workibg at Salford Royal hospital for the foundation trust. Still the same job and everything, just a change of management team.

Last week I came across a child with an amusing name in one of the reports I trawl through as my day job and I emailed my two closest colleagues who also work the same reports to say "Check out this kids name..."

First thing my new boss does today when I was in the "new" building which will be my work base for the foreseeable was drag me into her office and tell me that the email had been forwarded onto her and was against INFORMATION GOVERNANCE (a phrase which is now being used to excuse any and all pointless burocrisy (I know I spelt that wrong but my brain is melted) including the fact that we're not allowed pictueres on our desktops because its against INFORMATION GOVERNANCE!!!!).

I was raked over the coals for it for a few minutes and let go back to work.

Now I'm left feeling very worried. Either one ogf my two colleagues is deliberately trying to drop me in the shit or our emails are being monitored to a level that deeply invades our privacy.

Add to that the fact that I have less than a third of the amount of deskspace than I used to, the office I'm in now is designed to hold 3 tops and has 6 of us in there and I have an extra 25 minute walk to and from work every day... I ain't happy.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.186.66.88
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 07:02 pm:   

Scary shit, man. I think you have the right to know if someone is monitoring your emails. I'd look into it.
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Mbfg (Mbfg)
Username: Mbfg

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 212.219.63.204
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 07:14 pm:   

There is no such thing as INFORMATION GOVERNANCE. There is Freedom of Information and the Data Protection Act but there is categoricaly and absolutley no such thing as INFORMATION GOVERNANCE.

In fact the phrase makes no sense whatsoever.

Under the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT you have the right to know who is monitoring your e-mails because it information regarding you as an individual, regardless of the fact that you are at work. That is a wonderful act. My wife and I decorated all the trees in our area of Harrow with the minutes from a very suspect meeting held by the council, We've not been sent to Siberia because it was perfectly legal.

Regards
Terry
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.79.14.138
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 11:49 pm:   

Most System Administrators can and do monitor emails and internet traffic. I'm not sure of the legality of this. Remember that even personal email is slightly less secure than sending a postcard.

I sent an email to a colleague with the subject line: Not pornography. I hope that wasted some snooper's time.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 82.4.19.77
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 11:55 pm:   

I'd be careful about who you trust with your jokes in the workplace, Weber. I'm an office jockey too and have learnt the hard way over the years to keep friends, lovers and work colleagues strictly apart!

I reckon the likeliest explanation is that someone saw an opportunity for trouble making and shopped you...
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.145.134.216
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 12:56 am:   

The problem with that explanation is that I only sent ther email to the two colleagues I work closest with, who I assumed were both friends as we've now been doing the job together for 2 years plus. to think that one of them is deliberately trying to drop me in the shit is scary.

INFORMATION GOVERNANCE is creeping in as a better excuse than health and safety to impose stupid rules. It's happening in my work with the NHS with the IG teams there and in St John Ambulance it's starting to take precedence over common sense as well.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 01:00 am:   

Kill them. Kill them all. With an ice pick. Or a frozen sausage, with the end sharpened to a point.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.145.134.216
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 01:03 am:   

And then eat it to destroy the evidence...

Oh hang on, that was a Roald Dahl story with a frozen leg of lamb that she then cooked and fed to the investigating cops...
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.79.14.138
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 01:07 am:   

INFORMATION GOVERNANCE sounds like Terry Gilliam made it up.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.145.134.216
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 01:11 am:   

I wish he had. it's the bane of my life (one of them) at the moment.
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 202.73.198.32
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 01:24 am:   

'INFORMATION GOVERNANCE' Why does that send shivers up my spine. Hope you get it sorted, Weber. I'd want to know if it was a colleague or some sort of monitoring.
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 178.116.58.66
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 09:37 am:   

keep friends, lovers and work colleagues strictly apart

How true. I worked in an office with eleven other people, most of them women, and I don't want to begin to describe the pettiness, the feuds, the temper tantrums, the pseudo-love relationships . . . Ricky Gervais was right!
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 11:48 am:   

I had a sobering experience a few years back when a supposed friend in the workplace, of the same grade, shopped me and another mate for being slightly late back from lunch when our line manager was off one day - under something called the "whistleblowers scheme". We were reprimanded over it the next day but it was such a trivial offence that my boss was almost cringing with embarrassment at even having to mention it. But as it had been made official (by the stool pigeon, who's nose was put out of joint by unintentionally not being included) he had to be seen to be doing something. He made a point of coming out ten minutes later and chatting away to us as if nothing had happened in front of the twat - who lost two good mates and made two sworn enemies into the process as well as labelling himself a tout forever more (not a good reputation to have in Ireland). True story.

I never entirely trust anyone in the workplace. It's an unnatural environment where you have to "get on" with people you'd cross the street to avoid in any other walk of life. I'd ask your boss directly who forwarded the email.

Sometimes I think I'd be happier shovelling pig shit like Reggie Perrin! But, hey, the way the recession's going maybe my dream will come true...
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Mbfg (Mbfg)
Username: Mbfg

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 212.219.63.204
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 11:49 am:   

I too worked in an office for a few years, never again.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 12:44 pm:   

It's easier if you work for yourself like me - the only person who could shop me (for example, if I was posting on the RCMB when I should be working) would be me!

Seriously, office politics is a bugger. I've known several instances of people I thought I could trust turning out to be totally untrustworthy. Also, several cases of bullying in the workplace, not to mention all that monitoring by management. An office is a horrible place to be.

I feel for you Weber.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 12:50 pm:   

If it wasn't for RCMB I don't know how I'd get through the working day lol.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.158.57.31
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 04:52 am:   

It was announced at the INFORMATION GOVERNANCE training session I was forced to attend on Friday, that all emails sent through the trust email system are the property of the trust and the trust have the right to read them all and we cannot object.

Hmmm... I wonder about the legality of a statement like that. If that was true then Hotmail would own all the emails everyone's ever sent to or from etc etc and Facebook would own the copyright on every photo ever posted on the site...
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.147.137.208
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 08:37 pm:   

And my "new" job goes from shit to worse...

I've been having problems with my PC ever since it was "Re-imaged" to the hospital settings and loads of faults appeared on my office software - Friday I'm talking to one of the IT monkeys who keeps saying that they don't support office 2007 (which is what I primarily use) so they'll take that off and I can use 2003.

For those non technical people this is equivalent to going to the garage and the mechanic saying We won't bother fixing those three cylinders in the engine, it runs sort of ok with just the two that are left...

obviously I wasn't happy with this and tried to explain where the problem with the system stemmed from and the correct course of action to fix it. I was comletely ignored and the c onversation went round in circles for 15 minutes till I got fed up. I hung up the phone, called him a tosser and left the office to cool down for 5 minutes.

In any normal office, a team leader will try to help a member of staff deal with this type of stress.

Not my team leader... As I found out today, she had a word with a team leader from another team and asked him to put a formal complaint in about my language in the office.

Today she accused me of going through other people's drawers because I went to my previous desk to see if I'd left some painkillers in there as the pills I thought were on my desk had vanished. Every time I leave the office for 2 minutes she goes running after me to see where I am...

I'm wondering how much I have to put up with before I can put in a claim for harassment...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 08:41 pm:   

Who do you work for , the Nazis?
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.147.137.208
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 08:47 pm:   

NHS - was with Salford PCT, now with Salford Royal Foundation Trust
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 08:51 pm:   

Do you have transferrable skills? I'd suggest looking for something else, with a company that are less like fascists. Maybe work with some white supremacists?
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.147.137.208
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 08:59 pm:   

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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.152.208.213
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 09:48 pm:   

Bullying requires repeated and targeted examples of disrespect or unfair treatment. I'd start keeping a record of these events - you may thank yourself for it later.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 12:35 am:   

All joking aside, Prot makes a good point. Your team leader's action sound very questionable.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 12:35 am:   

All joking aside, Prot makes a good point. Your team leader's actions sound very questionable.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 12:35 am:   

Sigh...typo-a-gogo.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.147.137.208
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 12:49 am:   

To put my problems into perspective - just been for a drink with a friend who's feeling a bit low.

His Grandad has been diagnosed with very aggressive lung cancer and won't see out the year. His other grandad has just had his second stroke in as many months. he's got a broken hand from a game of ice hockey and his his girlfriend (who he's been seeing for nearly a year and who is the absolute love of his life) has just dumped him...

makes my problems seem a bit minor.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 147.252.230.148
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 04:47 pm:   

A neighbour's son, two doors away from my parent's house who used to play with my brother when they were kids, has just been told he has cancer in both lungs and he's 36.

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