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Mbfg (Mbfg)
Username: Mbfg

Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 212.219.63.204
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 02:08 pm:   

I was out walkiing in the beautiful Northamptonshire countryside yesterday with my daughter Faye when we stumbled on a set of body parts, scattered across a narrow lane.

It was a dismembered doll, possibly a Barbie or somesuch, but immensley troubleing, unwholesome and strange. The worse part were those clear blue eyes staring with complete lack of concern from her severed, plastic head...

Cheers
Terry
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.27.9.228
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 02:27 pm:   

Police are seeking a man with intense blue eyes who goes by the name of Ken.

http://cdn103.iofferphoto.com/img/item/159/414/091/ken-doll-flocked-brunette-hai r-750-1961-mattel-barbie-a7538.jpg
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Mark West (Mark_west)
Username: Mark_west

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.139.43.146
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 11:10 pm:   

Where are you in Northamptonshire, Terry? I'm in Rothwell, near to Kettering!
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Mbfg (Mbfg)
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Registered: 09-2010
Posted From: 212.219.63.204
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 08:49 am:   

Mark

I don't actually live in your fair county. my duaghter does, she has a flat in Northampton and I was visiting her for the eweekend.

I don't live far away however, Dunstable at the moment. so next time I'm heading that way i'll let you know and perhaps we could squeeze in a beer, or even a curry...

cheers
Terry

PS: I got Faye to photograph the doll, you never know, it could work as a pice fo cover art.
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Tony (Tony)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.35.255.29
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 02:56 pm:   

Terry, I get sad if I see abandoned toys or dolls. I had to save a Big Ears from the recycling skip the other day. The thing had loads of old teddies in good nick and i just grabbed him. I would have grabbed more if this macho boss of mine hadn't been with me. Does anyone else get like this? I feel nuts sometimes.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 03:05 pm:   

It sounds like the instinctive action of a rational if overly sensitive soul to me, Tony, and is nothing to be ashamed of.

I'm on the look out for some animal companionship in my new home at the minute and plan to take in a homeless puppy (been dogless way too long) and a kitten (for it to chew on) as soon as I have the place sorted as I want it. Yes, I'm still unpacking boxes.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.27.9.228
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 03:12 pm:   

Get a dog now. They're genius.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.66.23.11
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 06:14 pm:   

But cats are geniuser and less hassle to look after.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 06:26 pm:   

I am enamored of both and as people are abandoning the poor wee critters all over the shop due to the recession I've decided to take in one of each at a young enough age for them to grow up friends together and keep each other company while I'm at work. Got the space and comfort for it now and haven't been able to have a dog since my border collie, Rusty, back in my 20s - which is a sin!
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 78.152.221.6
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 09:35 pm:   

"Terry, I get sad if I see abandoned toys or dolls."

On the ERASERHEAD DVD, David Lynch says he passed some Woody Woodpeckers hanging from hooks in the ceiling and he felt their pain and had to get them down so went in and bought all of them.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 147.252.230.148
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 11:14 am:   

From now on I'm going to put --= END OF THREAD =-- at the bottom of all my posts.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 147.252.230.148
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 11:14 am:   

--= END OF THREAD =--
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 12:26 pm:   

Not quite, Proto...

I believe all the great Artists live their lives on an instinctive level, unfettered by the rationalism that society, or social embarrassment, would impose upon them, and that this personality trait cannot fail but show itself unselfconsciously in their work. Tony is touched by something of the same great oddness that makes Lynch such a fascinating and inspired filmmaker. Their imagery, or symbolism, is not forced or aping of anyone else's style but arises naturally from the subconscious without conscious effort - which fits in with what Ray Bradbury was talking about in his gorgeous reply to that young man's survey on the other thread. He was right in citing Melville as perhaps the most fascinating example in literature and I would include genre authors like Poe, Walter de la Mare & Robert Aickman in that same lofty category.

One can tell a genuinely original Artist from a Kafka wannabe by the unforced naturalism of their unconscious symbolism - a quality that cannot be faked. Honesty is the most important requisite for any creative endeavour.
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Mark West (Mark_west)
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Posted From: 90.152.54.130
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 04:19 pm:   

Terry - sounds good!
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Tony (Tony)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.132.169.227
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 01:57 pm:   

Proto - that's wonderful to know. And Stevie - those words are too kind. Sorry for not being here much - it's xmas, and been shopping, and the net has been playing up.
Yes, I feel for toys, and get angry at things on tv that are patently unreal but upset me anyway. Family Guy and American Guy are like a car crash to me. I could almost bury myself in a hole to hide from all the perceived pain I feel at some situations. I don't know where it came from but I empathise less with people than I do a bird or a toy. They say it's adoption linked, that I live in my mind's eye more than I do reality. But then I've told you both this before, and at length!
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 217.156.210.82
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 02:02 pm:   

Tony, not to worry you or anything, but that level of detachment from empathising with actual human beings is often associated with psychotic disorders. Transference of this empathy to fictional characters, animals, objects, etc, isn't exactly healthy.

Maybe you should try to engage with people a bit more? Stevie's little idealisation of the behaviour is sweet, but not particularly helpful.

I hope that doesn't sound too harsh, but sometimes I worry about you. You're a nice guy - save your emotions for real people.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
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Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 02:26 pm:   

I'm not sure that's true, Zed. I, too, tend to get emotional about "things" - fictional/cartoon characters, animals, dripping wet teddy bears hanging limply from the front of trucks, etc. I also get emotional about humans too, though.

Personally, I think it's down to our personalities - just how much we empathise with others, real or unreal. And then there's the upbringing thing too, of course. Although not adopted, my early life was frought with pain and anxiety. That kind of thing changes us - makes us more sensitive, perhaps? Over-sensitive to things that really shouldn't bother us? But I don't feel psychotic disorders have anything to do with it. So long as a person understands what's going on in their heads and can control any "undesirable" thoughts/behaviours, then I see no problem.

(both of me says so! )
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
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Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 02:29 pm:   

(by the way, on a completely separate issue, sorry if I've been sending odd messages today to those of you whose email addresses I have - my email account's been highjacked. Think I've got it sorted now.
Right, back to scattered bodyparts ...)
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 03:25 pm:   

Harmless and rather endearing eccentricity is hardly tantamount to "psychotic" behaviour, Zed!

There is not one of us can claim to be a model of sanity and it is our idiosyncracies and oddnesses that make us stand out from the crowd. I believe that those of us who feel an uncontrollable empathy for animals and objects are the ones to whom feeling empathy for other people comes most instinctively. To us it is as natural as breathing. I know I feel that way and I'm sure Tony, Caroline and David Lynch do as well.

Rather it is the sick minds who get a kick out of inflicting pain on defenceless animals or causing wanton destruction for the heck of it who are the real dysfunctional psychotics in the human race - and those who need most closely watched in their interactions with other people.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 217.156.210.82
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 03:29 pm:   

Just relating what I've read in my research - and if you read what I said properly, I wasn't claiming that Tony was a psycho:

that level of detachment from empathising with actual human beings is often associated with psychotic disorders.

Stevie. I have no idea what you're talking about. It's not what I was talking about, anyway. Tony stated that he worries more about plastic dolls than real people. I'm worried about him.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
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Posted From: 92.232.199.129
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 03:49 pm:   

I know you're worried about him, Zed - and that's highly commendable. It shows what a caring person you are (yes, I knew you were just a big softy really!). I didn't mean to say that you were wrong - sorry if it came across that way.

I just think (the same as Stevie, I guess) that it's down to our own unique personalities. Some people do empathise with objects, animals, etc, and some don't. Some people are more sensitive than others. That doesn't mean that either scenario is anything to worry about - as I said, as long as it's under control. We all exhibit traits which *might* be construed as psychotic/neurotic behaviour - it only becomes a problem when we have no control over it and do/say/think things which are disfunctional/problematic.

Anyway, my computer isn't feeling too well today so I'm off to care for it ...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 217.156.210.82
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 05:08 pm:   

That still isn't the issue of my concern.

No matter - I've lost interest now.
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Allybird (Allybird)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 49.225.31.10
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 09:18 pm:   

Family Guy is one of the few good programmes on NZ television. Heather's sense of humour is coming along nicely.
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Allybird (Allybird)
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Posted From: 49.225.31.10
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 09:43 pm:   

'Lois: Come on, Stewie, you know you can’t leave the table until you finish your vegetables.
Stewie: Well, then I shall sit here until one of us expires, and you’ve got a good forty years on me, woman.
'Lois: Sweetie, it’s broccoli, it’s good for you. Now, open up for the airplane...
Stewie: Never! Damn the broccoli, damn you, and damn the Wright brothers!
-Family Guy, “I Never Met the Dead Man” '
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 09:54 pm:   

It's hilarious isn't it. Ally? I only recently discovered the show (via The Cleveland Show) and it never fails to make me laugh.
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Allybird (Allybird)
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Posted From: 49.225.31.10
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 01:00 am:   

'It's hilarious isn't it. Ally?'

Yes. It goes to the edge and throws itself over...And I've had many a discussion with Heather about all the issues raised. She is just about the most informed (full well knows the meaning of irony, hypocrisy and parody now) 13 year old I know.

There are so many I can't post ...
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Joel (Joel)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 2.24.30.30
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 09:12 am:   

When I opened the forum this thread was the second listed, just underneath 'What are you reading?' Kind of a found story.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 02:59 pm:   

Can't believe you're only discovering 'Family Guy' now, Ally. I've been a fan for too many years and got all the box sets of it and 'American Dad'. The broccoli episode is a very early one, from Season One I think. Haven't caught 'The Cleveland Show' yet. My favourite individual FG ep is the one in which Peter goes for a prostate examination, not knowing what to expect, and ends up mentally traumatised, self harming and shaving all his hair off before taking the doctor to court for sexual assault.

One of those magical television moments when I actually almost choked to death laughing. The "I be a doctor..." dream sequence, in which his blanked out memories of the incident rise to the surface, is particularly hilarious!
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.66.23.11
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 05:04 pm:   

Brian (to Mexican in back of pick up truck) - me Amo Brian (followed by a spiel asking directions in halting Spanish)

Mexican - That was very good, but instead of saying Me amo Brian, you can just say Amo Brian

Brian - Oh, you speak English?

Mexican - No, just that first sentence and this one explaining it.

Brian - You're kidding right?

Mexican - Que?
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 86.141.211.187
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 02:22 pm:   

I don't not empathise with people, I think it's just that I don't feel part of them. It's always felt a bit mutual. I do like people in films, though. They're lovely.
But the empathising with *things*; I DO think objects carry smudges of sentience to them, I really do. I think they absorb them from us, like psychic snowballs.
And Family Guy, it IS funny, it's just I get upset by it, feel it a bit too much. Like the other day in one cartoon someone died and the others were shruggy about it, it was a joke. That kind of humour actually affects me like it's drama, not comedy.
(btw Zed - your 'bored' comments always come across as arrogance, like things are beneath you. You can disagree with anything you like or even ignore things, that's fine, but I don't think you should use that word. It looks bad.)
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 05:46 pm:   

The nature of all matter is relative and subjective. In the end our definitions and gradations of objecthood are just as illusory as our divisions of time.

Objects, matter, elementary particles, etc are but constituent parts of an infinitely sentient universe that appear non-sentient when seen in close-up and out of context by beings of limited sensory ability (i.e. us).

You should study the lyrics of "Help, I'm A Rock", Tony. For therein lies truth...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 217.156.210.82
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 06:07 pm:   

I am arrogant. Just ask my missus.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 81.155.203.93
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 10:59 am:   

Who's that by, Stevie?
The other day on the radio a woman said to worship God or the universe we should worship a single random rockof the fields, that that would connect us.
Ah yes, arrogance. I forgot it was sort of prized these days.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 217.156.210.82
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 11:45 am:   

I blame ebooks.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 12:16 pm:   

Well, Tony, the philosophy is mine but the song is by Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention. It's one of the most "difficult" tracks off their debut album, 'Freak Out' (1966). As seismic shifts in "popular" music go that disc would be hard to top. Even 'Sergeant Pepper', the banana album, 'Forever Changes' & 'Trout Mask Replica' bow to its superiority. And the man was only getting warmed up...
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 217.44.39.151
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 11:56 am:   

Stevie - I share that philosophy too. So do bhuddists, don't they? They feel the same about objects as well. And they say people are like objects too, that we only gradually gain a soul.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 01:16 pm:   

I believe we are all part of the One all-knowing sentience that fragmented into apparent individual entities in order to look upon and try to make sense of itself. This event didn't happen at any particular time - because the linear passage of time itself is an illusion - but is happening forever and everywhere in the one eternal moment.

We are all struggling to come to terms with the humbling realisation that we are not solely who and what we appear to be. Yet each of us is in the process of creating our own individual and unique universe based on our observances, attempted definitions, experiences, reactions and interactions with the infinitude of other unique universes that surround and contain us. And, to be controversial for a moment, this process must extend beyond our mistaken conception of a natural lifespan. The body may "die", as we define the concept, but consciousness is the very stuff of reality and can never be lost nor destroyed. Identity, objecthood and time are illusions. Consciousness is all there is and our own is but a thought of the One vast miasmic neverending ocean of the stuff.

For most of us this struggle to realise our true nature is instinctive and continually hindered by clinging to the illusion of material identity. Such people, who put too much credence in common sense materialism, have been called "young souls" by those of a religious persuasion. The others, the "old souls", are those individuals/entities that have attained a certain level of awareness of their true nature - on the path leading back to the One. All consciousness, not just human or organic life, is engaged in the same process. Adherence to the apparent reality of individual identity takes one away from true reality (along the backward path) but realisation and acceptance and embracing of true reality frees one from the shackles of self and raises one's consciousness to ever higher levels of being and belonging.

To me all the above is self-evident and follows logically from the simple fact that we exist at all.
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Skip (Wolfnoma)
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Posted From: 216.54.20.98
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 03:37 pm:   

From dismembered dolls to metaphysics in one thread. I LOVE THIS BOARD!
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted From: 99.126.164.88
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 05:04 pm:   

All well and good, Stevie... but in the end, everything this side of the veil, is conjecture... on the other side, it could be a beautiful Heaven (or better!) or a vast Lovecraftian nightmare (or worse!), for all we know from what we're given here....

All of life boils down to a sorting through of the books on our shelves, looking for the best bedtime story to lull us to sleep.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 11:45 am:   

But to think there is a veil and something on the other side of it, Craig, is to fall into the trap of identifying with this material illusion of limited existence. There is no beginning and no end to existence, no time, no individual self or objecthood, just the eternal moment in which everything is possible and is happening - right now.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 81.96.253.77
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 02:20 pm:   

There's certainly a beginning and end to my existence: birth and death. Then nothing. I wish I believed otherwise and envy those who do.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 03:27 pm:   

0=0

Zero is not equal to One.

1=1

One implies the non-existence of Zero other than as an imaginary concept.

The non-existence of Zero implies One is equal to Infinity i.e. the absence of barriers or limitations which is equal to limitless possibility and from limitless possibility flows All.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 03:41 pm:   

Fine. Good. Great.

And now the vital query:

$o how do I ca$h in on the$e truth$?
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 03:56 pm:   

Sigh... serenity is priceless, Craig.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 04:09 pm:   

Serenity in one hand, Stevie, as they say....
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 04:16 pm:   

Methinks the cut and thrust of Hollywood has jaded your spirits somewhat, Craig.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 04:18 pm:   

By the way, I'm gonna make a concerted effort to finish 'The Ascension Factor' this weekend. My reading and moviegoing has suffered this past while - I've been so bloody busy. Then we can make a start on 'The Wizard Knight' for over the festive period.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 04:23 pm:   

Sounds like a plan, my man!
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 04:42 pm:   

Speaking of knights and wizards....

I'm usually pretty leery now of big-budget epics heavy on CGI Hollywood fare like this... but the trailer, and the story behind it (if handled well), this might prove to be not too bad....

http://youtu.be/EdHlBN9cNRc
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted From: 109.145.130.45
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 06:41 pm:   

But 0 does not equal 0 otherwise 0/0=1
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 82.29.252.215
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 07:02 pm:   

Who taught you maths, Weber?!
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
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Posted From: 109.145.130.45
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 07:07 pm:   

Steven Hawking
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 86.170.88.253
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 11:34 am:   

That film looks ok Craig. Funny, I was trying to dig out that Jim Henson version the other day, the one set in the modern day with Jack an arrogant heir to some old family fortune.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 86.170.88.253
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 11:35 am:   

I do wish these films could be more...magical though. A touch of The Company of Wolves or something..
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted From: 99.126.164.88
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 03:44 pm:   

I find in the space of 24 hours, Tony, whatever speck of interest I felt for that film, has vaporized: now it's just one more big hollow-seeming CGI fantasy film that's to come out, about which I don't care. Though I could be wrong....

I've expressed this before, but I sense we're entering a 3rd (4th, if you count the silent era) Age in film, which will be called for lack of a better term: the Age of Spectacle. The first throes of this Age are primitive: visual, CGI-big, lumbering around like the giant you see in glimpses from this film. But soon enough that will become tiresome as the whole evolves; when more refined, nuanced, visionary Spectacle shall seep down to the more vital elements of "film," which is really just projected stories. But it might take 40 years on, then looking back and screwing up your eyes, to even see if I'm right... check in with you then....
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 04:51 pm:   

That film looks like a rubbish TV movie. Even the CGI effects are clunky and derivative.

What the hell happened to Bryan Singer? The Usual Suspects was an astonishing film...
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 12:03 pm:   

Craig, I think we are searching for the wonder we never managed to reach in space. Going into space cost too much and people got bored by the wait. But with film we can do anything, go anywhere, and we've realized it's the sense of wonder in the mind that is of value as much as the accomplishment of real wondrous things. We are fumbling, and money is involved, but I think even in the lamest film we can be moved and amazed by the odd image. Look at a film like Knowing, or even the remake of Day the Earth Stood Still, or I am Legend - all of these films have images and ideas that stay in the mind despite the films that contained them. Even the Harry Potters, which I love, and know aren't 'great' films, haunt my mind like great dreams.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 12:04 pm:   

Skip - you still with us?
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 12:07 pm:   

I don't think anything happened to Bryan Singer. think The Usual Suspects was good because of Chris McQuarrie (writer) and John Ottman (who wrote the music and edited the film).
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 12:11 pm:   

That said, I wish we would bloody go into space... :-(
I've got a model of an Eagle from Space 1999 in front of me and it pains me to think I used to think I'd get to fly one one day.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 12:12 pm:   

I still like the X Men films, up until the new one, and Wolverine Origins.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 12:41 pm:   

I don't think anything happened to Bryan Singer. think The Usual Suspects was good because of Chris McQuarrie (writer) and John Ottman (who wrote the music and edited the film).

I think you're right, Proto. McQuarrie's Way of the Gun is an extraordinary film.

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