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Tony (Tony)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.157.19.204
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 07:55 pm:   

Can we re-assess films because of picture quality? I just got these today and have been bowled over by some of the scenes I've flicked through. The places in them feel more real than they ever did. Does that make them better?
I have to say watching old films in this format is like remembering what daylight looked like, getting new eyes.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 109.79.84.124
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 12:01 am:   

Do you mean blu-ray format?
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 81.155.203.93
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 10:45 am:   

Yes.
Hey - think we can say anything we like here. Wanna say something controversial?
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 147.252.230.148
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 11:39 am:   

I prefer the Matrix sequels, especially the third one, to the first film.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 12:18 pm:   

I loved the first one, fell asleep during the second one and never got round to seeing the third one.
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Stephen Theaker (Stephen_theaker)
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Registered: 12-2009
Posted From: 77.98.13.43
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 03:57 pm:   

They're nearly always the first films I put on to test out a new bit of AV equipment. I paid quite a bit for them on HD-DVD, and they looked quite magnificent.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted From: 99.126.164.88
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 04:35 pm:   

It seems, Tony, you're always drifting back into watching/appreciating film. Me, I've found 2011 the year I just plain old lost interest in watching movies.

Oh yeah, I've seen my share, but they're all for non-reasons: I stumbled across it because it just happened to be on TV (e.g., the remake of A Nightmare On Elm Street), or I got a bug up in me to robotically-programmed-like watch an entire series (e.g., the Bond movies), etc.

There's a few new ones out there I want to see... kinda... but overall, I can honestly say I've sort of lost any and all interest in film. For now. It will return, I'm sure.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted From: 217.156.210.82
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 04:47 pm:   

Craig, I can sympathise - 2011 is the year I completely lost interest in Hollywood films. But thankfully, there's a lot of other - much fucking better - stuff out there.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 109.79.95.30
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 07:44 pm:   

Me too. I've no interest in either the deep or shallow end of film all year. I couldn't tell you what's in the local fleapit or arthouse cinema. I've stopped reading too. Even my own words. Not sure what I'm typing here.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted From: 99.126.164.88
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 05:35 am:   

I'm glad it's not just me. I have some patience for some mindless TV... I have been reading a bit more lately, that's been nice... but 2011's sucked in the film department, as far as me keeping up with anything... who knows, maybe over the Xmas/New Year's break....
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 217.44.39.151
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 11:53 am:   

It's not films that are more boring, it's us. We've seen it all. It's why I recently decided to watch films I didn't fancy and ended up finding some absolute gems, like the absolutely classic Karate Kid remake (honestly folks, honestly I mean that!). The Matrix I put on the other day and played with the comentary by the two philosophers. I mean, what a masterstroke to do that. And it really enriches the films, and at one point I think changed my life. It was like my mind went hi-def.
I agree that that sounds silly.
But to go back to my question - has picture quality changed the worth of a film for anyone?
I know my projector has. We watched House of Wax on it recently and it was much more effective than on the telly. In fact it became a brilliant modern horror in one fell swoop.
(Some films fall by the wayside, however - Mad Max is just a stylish mess now, a good film with great flashes)
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 217.44.39.151
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 11:54 am:   

Craig - I still can't read, only dip. :-(
I do enjoy the dipping though - it's making prose into a kind of odd poetry. Like I ching.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 147.252.230.148
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 01:02 pm:   

"has picture quality changed the worth of a film for anyone"

Absolutely.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted From: 92.8.24.64
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 02:42 pm:   

I'd say Scorsese's Hugo demonstrates the principle very ably. Some of it genuinely reinvents 3-D, and I thought it was a real attempt to recapture the magic of cinema, very successfully for me. I'd say it's the finest of the new 3-D films, and certainly one that will survive the fashion.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
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Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.31.1
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 03:01 pm:   

I agree, Ramsey. It was a wonderful example of current Hollywood cinema at its very best. Even in 2D!
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted From: 99.126.164.88
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 06:19 am:   

Of course, having spoken my declarative, "I've lost any and all interest in film," my mind immediately worked to undermine itself. And so I finally got around to seeing BRIDESMAIDS, and must say, rather liked it.

... er, that's all.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 86.141.211.203
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 11:57 am:   

Craig - yes, there's something in us everyone needs and not everyone has, the ability to keep changing ones outlook and never take any of our mental states for granted. Be glad of that 'undermining'.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 86.141.211.203
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 11:58 am:   

Proto - the third film is AMAZING.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.152.204.65
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 12:15 pm:   

Isn't it? That Biblical plague of squids breaking through the vaulted ceiling was like heaven and hell meeting. It had the lighting of a classical painting such as The Opening of the Sixth Seal.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted From: 86.141.211.203
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 12:24 pm:   

That's it! And there's a shot of these kids in the first film, a tv on behind them. What the philosophers point out is that tv and film and art can reveal wonders and have great insights to share, if only we *think about it*. A lot of tv and cinema is dull because we are. We ARE surrounded by great art, but are not treating it as such. I'd rather watch a movie like The Matrix than go to the Tate modern. And tv and film has changed the world, and in lots of good ways - more so than books, I'd say, because it's more immediate and communal. But it could be better if we took it more seriously.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted From: 99.126.164.88
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 04:21 pm:   

Tony, I am glad of that "undermining." I daresay too, Stevie, you should check out BRIDESMAIDS for a possible entry onto your best-of-the-year list. It's actually quite a moving film, when you push past all the gross-out/outrageous/sex comedy stuff: Kristen Wiig might just earn herself a Best Actress nod for her turn here, as an incredibly vulnerable and wounded, but always trying to be perky and cheerful thirty-something woman, who's on the verge of losing the only thing she has left in life of any value.... The movie this main protagonist most brought to mind (for me) was Mike Leigh's recent HAPPY-GO-LUCKY; except unlike the blindly-up Sally Hawkins, Kristen Wiig here is always two steps away from total emotional breakdown; and this balance is what fuels the comedy. Really, a brilliant movie, and probably the best film by far Judd Apatow's been connected with....
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted From: 99.126.164.88
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 04:43 pm:   

Meanwhile, on another continent:

Hmmm... what was that again, Joel, about sucking donkey dick in Hell?... I'm starting to wonder, after seeing this trailor[sic], if that might not be in fact too gentle....

http://www.slashfilm.com/dracula-3d-sales-trailer-dario-argento-nsfw-praying-man tis/
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Stephen Theaker (Stephen_theaker)
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Registered: 12-2009
Posted From: 77.98.13.43
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 07:05 pm:   

Kristin Wiig is incredibly talented, and very, very funny. She has at least half a dozen characters on SNL that could conceivably carry a Mike Myers-type film, so it was interesting to see her go with something more natural for her first starring role. Looking forward to watching it this Christmas.

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