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     Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REmQ3gHFPro | ||
| Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21 |
Apart from The Kill List last year's other outstanding horror film, YellowBrick Road:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzJgKbk50JQ | ||
| David_lees (David_lees) Username: David_lees Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 92.22.28.28 |
Got these synposes (synopsi?) from bloody-disgusting.com: [REC]3: Genesis: "Koldo and Clara are about to celebrate the most important day of their lives: their wedding. Everything appears to be running smoothly and the bride and groom and their families are enjoying a wonderful day; that is until some of the guests start showing signs of a strange illness. Before they know what’s happening, the bride and groom find themselves in the middle of a hellish ordeal, as an uncontrollable torrent of violence is unleashed on the wedding. Amidst the chaos, Koldo and Clara become separated and begin a desperate search for one another. What started off as an idyllic day quickly descends into a nightmare of the worst kind…" [REC]4: Apocalypse, which begins lensing this year, "Angela Vidal, the young television reporter who entered the building with the fireman, manages to make it out alive. But what the soldiers don’t know is that she carries the seed of the strange infection. She is to be taken to a provisional quarantine facility, a high-security installation where she will have to stay in isolation for several days. An old oil tanker, miles off shore and surrounded by water on all sides, has been especially equipped for the quarantine." Seems odd that the third one diverges from the main storyline like that. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.23.40.152 |
The quartet will soon be available as a package called Four Funerals and a Wedding. | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.66.23.11 |
One of the Leprechaun movies - with Warwick davies as as evil leprechaun killing people horribly - was retitled One Wedding and Lots of Funerals... | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
Ah, the 'Leprechaun' series... guilty bliss. I must be the only one on here who has yet to see any of the [REC] movies! | ||
| Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21 |
The Spanish ones, the first and second are very good, and the American remake of the first is excellent. I haven't seen the second remake of the second original sequel. Does that make sense? | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.29.252.215 |
I think I'd stick with the Spanish originals, Frank. I've yet to see a modern American remake of a foreign language horror that improved on the original. Discuss...  | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.253.77 |
I thought the American remake (called Quarantine) was abysmally dull. The first two [REC] films are superb, though. I've yet to see a modern American remake of a foreign language horror that improved on the original. Discuss... Here's one: Vanilla Sky. | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.29.252.215 |
You might have something there, Zed. I've seen both and the Tom Cruise version certainly was a lot more horrifying.... <shudder> | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.29.252.215 |
But, in all seriousness, are there any? 'Let Me In' was a really decent remake of 'Let The Right One In' but it wasn't by any stretch of the imagination an improvement. Same goes for the remake of 'Ju-On : The Grudge' - which benefited enormously from keeping the original director and Japanese setting but was still ultimately redundant. Has there been any US remake that blew the foreign original away? | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.145.209.143 |
Magnificent seven if you look at it as a remake of the seven samurai | ||
| Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21 |
Insomnia. I've seen the original. Very good film. But the Nolan remake with Pacino and Williams is in a different league altogether. | ||
| Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21 |
Magnificent Seven is good, but sorry, mate, have to totally disagree that it's better than the Seven Samurai. | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.29.252.215 |
Of course Nolan's 'Insomnia' is superior to the original as too is Scorsese's 'The Departed', imo. But I was talking about horror films specifically. 'The Seven Samurai' is one of the crowning achievements of 20th Century cinema whereas 'The Magnificent Seven' is "merely" one of the most thoroughly entertaining films. | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 82.29.252.215 |
To put this in perspective Takashi Miike's 'Thirteen Assassins' is a marginally better work of art than 'The Magnificent Seven' but still pales beside 'The Seven Samurai'. Yeah, it really is that good!  | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.253.77 |
The Departed isn't even in the same league as the Infernal Affairs films, if you ask me. I also prefer The Magnificent Seven to The Seven Samurai, Weber. I think it's the greatest western ever made. But I always prefered Yojimbo, Roshamon and Throne of Blood to Samurai anyway... As for horror, Carpenter's The Thing pisses all over the original, IMHO. | ||
| Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21 |
Interestingly, Kim Newman who's a big Thing fan, prefers the original. Though he does and has praised Carpenter's version. I, also, prefer Carpenter's version for many reasons. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.179.35.191 |
As for horror, Carpenter's The Thing pisses all over the original, IMHO. Hmmm - very different films; love 'em both and would never say one's better than the other, although on a personal note I prefer the first. I think the thing here is that Carpenter's version isn't a remake as such; rather it's a new version of the original story by Campbell. It's a lot closer to the story too. The original has some brilliant snappy dialogue, almost out of time for the era it was made in. | ||
| Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21 |
Yes, Mick. Carpenter's film is more faithful to the original source material, Who Goes There. I also think for some, NOT ALL, that it's a matter of generational taste. A lot of the fans of the Carpenter version grew up in the 80's on his work, and Cronenberg and Romero, to name a few. Those who prefer the original film version tend to have been adults already when Carpenter's version came out. Or am I talking absolute bollocks. (I'm not including you in this Mick. I have no idea how young or old you are...and like I say, I'm probably talking out my ass). | ||
| Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.66.23.11 |
Wasn't the story called Who goes Here? I think the original question was about remakes of foreign films or the Thing would have been my first choice as well. Is it sacrilege to say I prefered Pulse to Cairo? | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.156.210.82 |
Is it sacrilege to say I prefered Pulse to Cairo? Yes. Yes, it is. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.179.35.191 |
Frank - you're right; I'm an old git! I was indeed an adult during the 'eighties, although I remain a huge fan of Cronenberg and (early) Carpenter. | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
The greatest western ever made is 'Once Upon A Time In The West', imho. But we're talking specifically US remakes of foreign language horror films. I still maintain there hasn't been a single one that improved on the original (to my knowledge). | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.156.210.82 |
Soderberg's Solaris. IMHO. | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
That's not a horror film and we've had this out before... Tarkovsky's original is second only to '2001 : A Space Odyssey' in sci-fi cinema. It is majestic and sublime, repaying countless viewings, where Soderbergh's remake was functional and redundant. Disagreeing is such fun. | ||
| Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21 |
I agree with you, Stevie that Tarkovsky's film is superior, but I thought Soderbergh's remake was unjustly dismissed by the usual elitist snobs in film criticism. I believe PRIMER is one of the most brilliant and thought provoking, not to mention, frightening sci-fi films made. I would also add Gattacca. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.156.210.82 |
The original Solaris bored me so much I couldn't finish it - who needs a 10-minute scene of a car driving though streets? I adore slow-paced flms, but this one just struck me as being pretentious for the sake of it. The best SF film I've seen in recent years was Time Crimes. | ||
| Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21 |
Times Crimes is great, love the film. BUT, Primer is the most perfect time travelling movie made. I remember discussing this with Ramsey at his Xmas party years ago. What he said added further illumination on a film that is the ultimate in fucking with your head. Frightening film. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.179.35.191 |
The original Solaris bored me so much I couldn't finish it - who needs a 10-minute scene of a car driving though streets? I adore slow-paced flms, but this one just struck me as being pretentious for the sake of it. You just need to be more laid back, maaaan! :-) I saw the original SOLARIS at a late night showing, and it works superbly well at the cinema; maybe less so on DVD, I couldn't say, but I don't think it feels boring or pretentious on a big screen. | ||
| Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 85.222.86.21 |
Tell him, Mick. Swat him like a human fly. BTW: I wasn't referring to you as old, or even anything remotely like it. Just making that clear. | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88 |
I too found the original SOLARIS containing wonderful moments and gems of potential, but ultimately, boring as boring gets (never saw the remake). And I remember liking PRIMER when I saw it, but have completely forgotten it—not sure what that means. Furthermore, THE DEPARTED is uber-overrated, and hardly close to any of Scorsese's best work. And finally, how did I miss this intriguing TIME CRIMES?!... | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
'The Departed' is when I sat up and started taking notice of Scorsese again, after he'd been treading water (by his standards) for over a decade. He's since consolidated its stunning return to form with such late period triumphs of artistic integrity as 'Shutter Island' & 'Hugo'. The 'Infernal Affairs' movies are brilliantly constructed high-octane entertainments, with brains, but Scorsese made a masterpiece out of the bones of the first one delivering one of the ten finest movies made since the turn of the millennium, imo. | ||
| Stevie Walsh (Stephenw) Username: Stephenw Registered: 03-2009 Posted From: 194.32.31.1 |
Craig, sit down with no distractions and really watch Tarkovsky's 'Solaris'. Like '2001' (or Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' or a good long game of chess) it is a work of art that requires one to be in the mood for its hypnotic grandeur and that needs the right sensory conditions to be in place for it to be enjoyed for what it is... a mesmerising and intensely moving multi-layered meditation on the frailties of the human condition and what we would aspire to be. I shouldn't even have to be explaining this!  |