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Giancarlo (Giancarlo) Username: Giancarlo
Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 109.54.113.210
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 07:23 am: | |
In the course of my roaming thru English poetry I've often come across works whose themes could, cum grano salis, appreciated as kindred to Horror, if not downright Horror/Terror, such as Poe's (whose "The Raven" inexplicably does not seem to enjoy universal acclaim.) Coming to my mind just now, J. Keats's "La Belle Dame sans Merci" and "Lamia, S.T. Coleridge's "The Ballad of the Ancient Mariner" and "Christabel", Lord Tennyson's "The Lady of Shalott", R. Browning's "The Pied Piper of Hamelin" and "My Last Duchess", W. De La Mare's "The Listeners"... there are many others, certainly, I've never met, or I haven't met yet, beside some I'm unable to recall at the moment...What else could I be missing? |
   
Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 92.8.18.12
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 09:01 am: | |
James Thomson's "The City of Dreadful Night" is quite something. |
   
Des (Des) Username: Des
Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.148.23.94
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 09:58 am: | |
And DARKNESS by Lord Byron. About an SF Holocaust. http://www.strickling.net/byron_darkness.htm OT: I have just bought LP Hartley's FACIAL JUSTICE that is a 1960 SF Holocauset novel, I believe, where the only thing left is the tower of Ely Cathedral. |
   
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 178.116.61.103
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 10:26 am: | |
Yes, "Darkness" is a great poem. It always reminds me of Hodgson's The Night Land. |
   
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 178.116.61.103
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 12:37 pm: | |
Tennyson's "The Kraken". |
   
Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 92.8.18.12
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 12:47 pm: | |
And his "Rizpah"! |
   
Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 109.79.54.238
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 03:42 pm: | |
William Hughes Mearns Antigonish ("Yesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasn’t there...") |
   
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 05:36 pm: | |
Let's not forget Beowulf. |
   
Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 109.79.39.87
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 06:11 pm: | |
Does The Wasteland count? |
   
Joel (Joel) Username: Joel
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 2.24.13.222
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 09:22 pm: | |
Proto, it might but I think it's mystical rather than supernatural, like 'Four Quartets' (which I prefer). My favourite weird poems (apart from ones already mentioned) include: Robert Browning, 'Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came' Rainer Maria Rilke, 'Orpheus, Eurydice, Hermes' Sylvia Plath, 'The Moon and the Yew Tree' Edwin Morgan, 'Grendel' A recent collection, Andraste's Hair by Eleanor Rees, weaves some some breathtakingly weird and strange poetic images into the landscape of Liverpool. |
   
Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.171.117.38
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 11:47 pm: | |
Ray Bradbury's Beware those Beasts - it's in one of Pete Crowther's anthologies. |
   
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.155.144.90
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 11:05 am: | |
Des - did LP Hartly write that book The Go Between? That was eerie, too. I'm not surporised he tackled full-on strangeness. Hmm - this place makes you reply instead of just 'liking'. That's good. |
   
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.155.144.90
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 11:06 am: | |
That said, I don't like my spelling in that post. |
   
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.155.144.90
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 11:31 am: | |
Des - did you know Hartley spent much time in Venice after having a nervous breakdown? |
   
Joel (Joel) Username: Joel
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.37.199.45
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 01:18 pm: | |
After? That sounds like a DFL instance of retrocausality. Either that or his doctor was crap. |
   
Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 109.79.62.31
| Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 12:34 pm: | |
I read The Wasteland last night and yes, it's too dry and distant from the body to be considered horror. Though the descriptions of drought provoked an almost physical reaction in me. |
   
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.155.144.90
| Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 12:43 pm: | |
Wouldn't it be wonderful for a literary book on the landscape of dreams. Explorers visit the dream world and chart it. I'm dreaming like mad at the moment - I'm struggling to write a bunch of short stories and I think it's churning things up. |
   
Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 109.79.62.31
| Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 12:47 pm: | |
Isn't Dante's Inferno a bit like that? (I haven't read it. Only clever people have read it. And serial killers in films.) |
   
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.155.144.90
| Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 01:13 pm: | |
Ha! Eerie thing - it was in Jacob's Ladder that we watched last night. How odd. Yes, it is. I suppose all fiction/art is, in a way. A lovely idea. Funny thing; Jacob just seemed to look at the pictures. (A very Ramseyan film, btw) |
   
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 178.116.61.103
| Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 01:53 pm: | |
Giancarlo, Steve Eng contributes a 50-page essay on supernatural verse in English in Marshall Tymn's Horror Literature (Bowker, 1981). |
   
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88
| Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 03:55 pm: | |
I believe this qualifies as horror poetry.... (Reproduced as originally structured by the author: ) I was not codding Dear old boss when I gave you the tip You'll hear about Saucy Jack's work Tomorrow double Event this time Number one squealed A bit couldn't Finish straight Off. Had not time To get ears for Police thanks for Keeping last letter Back till I got To work again |
   
Giancarlo (Giancarlo) Username: Giancarlo
Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 109.54.65.17
| Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 07:58 am: | |
Thank you all for the tips, Mates! I will start the hunt according to your suggestions. I've had just now a recollection about some very haunting pieces, W. Yeats's "The Second Coming" and W. Blake's "There was a Chapel all of Gold"...and I can't avoid mentioning the exquisite bleakness in some of E. Dickinson's Poetry. |
   
Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.142.0
| Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 09:01 am: | |
I've read dante's Inferno. Rather good actually. Until I picked up the entire divine Comedy I wasn't aware that dorothy Sayers (the crime writer) had done her own translation of it for Penguin books - although she died before she's finished Paradisio. |
   
Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 147.252.230.148
| Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 10:24 am: | |
Ah, how could I forget Yeats! |
   
Joel (Joel) Username: Joel
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.37.199.45
| Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 02:17 pm: | |
Weber, I'm sure there's an untold story there about translators of Dante. Most die before they have got beyond Inferno. A few get near the end of Purgatorio. Nobody ever gets to translate Paradisio, and the existing 'translations' were actually made up out of thin air. |
   
Christopher Overend (Chris_overend)
Username: Chris_overend
Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 217.33.165.66
| Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 03:57 pm: | |
Some of Roald Dahl's poetry for children was deliciously dark; not in a soul-corrupting way, but certainly of the type to get children interested in further darker material. It did me. |
   
Weber (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.129.59.216
| Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 08:09 pm: | |
The Prince said "who's this dirty slut? Off with her nut, off with her nut!" From his version of Cinderella... |