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     Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 92.8.30.135 |
Kubrick's film appears to be set for a British theatrical reissue, but now it's the complete version: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BFF024623/ | ||
| John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.131.45.253 |
Interesting. We'll doubtless catch this on its cinema run. | ||
| Kate (Kathleen) Username: Kathleen Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 86.131.45.253 |
Excellent! I've only seen the full version in pan and scan and I've never seen any version on the big screen. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.31.184.63 |
Ooh, I fancy seeing that. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.5.43.148 |
I have the complete version on DVD, but - as Kate points out - it's pan and scan. | ||
| Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 92.8.30.135 |
Ah, but is it? The truth seems to be that it was filmed in Academy ratio and then masked to widescreen at the cinema, and that the 1.33:1 version on DVD is the full image. | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88 |
My 2003 Leonard Maltin Movie & Video Guide lists it at 142m, but has the line, "Cut by Kubrick after premiering at 146m." I guess that means we still won't be seeing Scatman Crothers get axed, or the original ending. http://filmbabble.blogspot.com/2007/08/10-rarely-seen-deleted-scenes-not-on.html  | ||
| Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey) Username: Ramsey Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 92.8.30.135 |
Don't think so, Craig! | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 109.79.52.108 |
There's a lot of controversy about the intended aspect ratio of THE SHINING. I even recall a letter from Kubrick to cinema management being produced as evidence. I think the consensus is that you're right, Ramsey - it was shot unmatted and intended to be soft matted for projection. BUT, Kubrick may have intended it to be shown 1:1.33 on television (though obviously this was before widescreen television). Here, RTE regularly pans and scans films on television and THEN adds black bars top and bottom. Forget letterbox, it's like watching the thing wearing a burka. | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.126.164.88 |
Alas. This comment from a ways down on that blogsite, Ramsey. For once, I'm hoping a typical internet supposed insider, is some random blowhard lying through his teeth: That the longer version of Halloran's death scene was ever seen in any released version of The Shining is a complete myth. In fact it only survived for about 9 hours, the editing having been completed at about one in the morning and that half of the scene being cut out of the movie at about ten in the morning - all many months before it was released. I was the only person who ever saw it apart from Stanley K. He was obviously worried about it being too graphic and, first thing in the morning, told me to take it out. I know for a fact that the deleted section was then dismantled, so that version could never be reconstructed. | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 109.79.52.108 |
My favourite potted review of The Dark Knight Rises: "Nolan's dour realism has turned the Batman experience into something like a sexless Eyes Wide Shut party." | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.181.208.239 |
I think Kubrik was notorious for destroying pretty much any unused footage (and also sets after filming was completed). I was amazed at the extra footage in THE SHINING when ITV showed it very late night twenty or more years back, with no fanfare whatsoever. They'd done the same with a late night showing of the longer version of AMERICAN GRAFFITI at some point in the late 'seventies/early 'eighties). As a result, I've only seen that shorter version of THE SHINING at the cinema (at the film's release at the Empire Leicester Square, I recall) and the longer version only on Laserdisc and then later on DVD. | ||
| John Forth (John) Username: John Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217 |
The first version of THE SHINING I ever saw (and 'owned', by benefit of recording it off the telly) was the American cut on the Beeb. For years, pre-internet, I was baffled by why the official VHS release was missing so much footage. I have copies of both now, but it would be great to get the US cut on blu-ray. | ||
| John Forth (John) Username: John Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217 |
I was amazed at the extra footage in THE SHINING when ITV showed it very late night twenty or more years back, with no fanfare whatsoever. Mick, I doubt they knew. Rather than buy the rights direct from the film distributors, UK channels (used to) tend to buy them on from American networks and would therefore get whatever version that network showed - hence the extended cut of THE SHINING. It was also the primary reason for all those shitty censored/re-dubbed versions of films you would see post-watershed over here. "Yippee-kye-ay, chemosabe." | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.181.208.239 |
Mick, I doubt they knew I suspect you're right, John - only explanation really. |