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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.134.106.30
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2013 - 01:59 am:   

http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/watch-50th-mini-episode-the-night-of-the-doctor-553 27.htm
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 185.26.180.57
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2013 - 01:29 pm:   

Watch this, even if you don't like dr who. This is fantastic!
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David Lees (David_lees)
Username: David_lees

Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 176.248.120.78
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2013 - 04:53 pm:   

It is brilliant, I caught yesterday, thankfully having inadvertently avoided all spoilers.
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Carolinec (Carolinec)
Username: Carolinec

Registered: 06-2009
Posted From: 92.237.187.186
Posted on Friday, November 15, 2013 - 08:58 pm:   

Just watched it - wonderful! What a superb Doctor you-know-who would have made had things been different (I won't say who - spoilers!).

You know, I'm wondering whether to find out if the 50th anniversary story is being shown at a cinema near me. It would be great to watch it on the big screen. I'm *really* looking forward to John Hurt. It's like a middle-aged lady Doctor Who fan's dream come true.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.134.106.114
Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 09:43 pm:   

Well last night I went to see the Doctor Who special in the cinema in 3d and it was freaking brilliant!

The place was packed full of like minded fans (apparently it sold out 7 screens just at the multiplex I was in) and the atmosphere was unlike anything I've experienced in the cinema before.


Even the trailers beforehand had been made specially for that one showing - Ron Burgundy asking Who the doctor was in a one man take on the "Hoo's on first base" sketch.

There was a special intro by Strax, Tennant and Smith that had me giggling away before the programme started.

I loved every glorious second of it. Moffatt's best scrpt ever, loads of nods to a knowing audience, loads of backfilling of plot holes (including why Queen Liz was so pissed off with David Tennant in the Shakespeare code episode), and yet a clear and simple enough story that non fans would be able to appreciate what was going on.

If the Christmas special is this good then we've had the best year ever for the Doctor IMHO.

Capaldi's very brief appearance got a cheer from the audience - and there was a telling line from a galifreyan about "all 13 of them" that certainly suggests that Capaldi is the last. I have the feeling that the quest which was started at the end of the episode will lead to the granting of extra lives. Moffatt showed in this episode how much love and respect he has for the show's history and the fans.

as my three word review read that I posted on Facebook as I left the cinema

Best. Episode. Ever.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.134.106.114
Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 09:47 pm:   

Links to special shot trailers

Anchoman :-
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/11/23/...s-ron-burgundy

Mr Peabody & Sherman :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvYeVcTAyHA
sqwidge1978 is offline Reply With Quote
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.134.106.114
Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 09:54 pm:   

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/11/23/doctor-who-confuses-and-confounds-ron-burgun dy

that might work better than the other link
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 212.183.140.46
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 01:26 pm:   

Watched 'The Day Of The Doctor' last night and, while I loved all the humorous and nostalgic touches and the chemistry between the three leads (if only we could have seen more of John Hurt), I must admit that most of the plot made little or no sense to me and I would like someone to explain what on earth was going on and where the hell we stand now in the Doctor Who universe?!?! I gathered Hurt's Doctor came in between McGann and Ecclestone's incarnations and that the Zygons, UNIT and Queen Elizabeth I were somehow involved and that Gallifrey was inexplicably saved from destruction and that the Time Lords therefore re-exist again, I think, but other than that I'm completely lost... and, being a fairly intelligent fan of even the murkiest convolutions of science fiction plotdom, I can think of only one explanation for that: bad, nay incomprehensible, storytelling!

A baffled and frustrated 6/10 overall lifted by some wonderful 10/10 moments to a grudging 7/10 if anyone can tell me who the hell Billie Piper was supposed to be?!
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.148.134.215
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 01:59 pm:   

I got annoyed over the years of the 'new' series whenever they mentioned this time war that destroyed not only all the time lords but all the daleks too.
But the daleks kept resurfacing so why couldn't the time lords? Be consistent, BBC, damn you!
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.145.220.37
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 05:42 pm:   

Pay attention to the episode. It's clearly stated that billie is an interface that the consciousness/conscience of the weapon uses to talk to Hurt. My 6 year old and 5 year old nephews had no trouble understanding it, despite the younger one not knowing who Rose was because Smith is his first Doctor.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.145.220.37
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 05:44 pm:   

Watch the mini episode i linked to at the start of this thread for magann's regen into hurt
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.148.134.215
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 06:16 pm:   

Oddly, though, 'Rose' was used as the interface for familiarity, but Hurt's doctor had never met her...
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 5.102.90.2
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 06:23 pm:   

An interesting bit of dialogue - warning slight spoiler - was when one of the generals on Gallifrey referred to "All 13 of them" just before Capaldi's partial visage appeared on the screen.

A clear indication that Moffatt is sticking to the only 12 regens.

Capaldi is therefore the last Doctor. I get the feeling that his quest to save Gallifrey will lead to the granting of a new set of lives, just like they granted the Master.

The Timelords have reappeared twice now (3 times if you count the initial resurfacing of the master).

In the first Eccleston Dalek episode the appearance of the Dalek was tragic for the poor Doc, who now had clearly destroyed his own people for nothing if this creature was to survive. It was one of the better elements of RTD's tenure.

and of course after the anniversary episode we know why Queen Lizzy was annoyed with David Tennant in the Shakespeare code episode...
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 5.102.90.2
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 06:27 pm:   

Rose represented the Conscience of the future Doctors... I think she did state why she chose that form. There was a lovely moment when Hurt mentioned the Bad Wolf Girl while she was sat right next to Tennant. Tennant looked heartbroken trying to see her but he couldn't. I know at least one person who admits he teared up at that. (Not me coz i ain't soft like that)
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 212.183.128.14
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 07:03 pm:   

I dearly wanted to love the episode, Weber, but, in truth, it was another one that fell foul of being a hurried mess, imo, with too much going on, too many crucial plot details being skimmed over and saw the waste of a classic monster, the Zygons, in an unnecessary and incoherent sub-plot that distracted from the long awaited main point of the episode; the conclusion to the Time War and the Doctor's destruction of his own people to rid the universe of the Daleks. Now, I guess, that whole sacrifice was meaningless as the Time Lords and the Daleks are still around, somewhere, I think?!

Just over an hour was a ridiculously short running time for such an ambitious and internally important storyline (never mind two!!) and gave no time for John Hurt's intriguing turn as the Doctor to bed in and have a decent impact. At very least it needed to be feature length or a two-parter, imo, for the script to make easily followable sense. I found it a fitfully entertaining but ultimately frustrating experience that would need rewatched with a notebook and pause button handy to really "enjoy". It's left me craving more than ever a return to the longer, slower paced and infinitely more gripping and intelligent storylines of the show in its classic years. Hopefully things will settle down once Capaldi takes over and they'll ditch the baffling story arc convolutions and get back to self-contained non-universe threatening plots that were always the basic strength of Doctor Who in the first place. Less is more!!!!
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.145.222.45
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 07:31 pm:   

Dead simple episode. Time war. Dr hurt faces decision to burn gallifrey from existance. The sentient weapon shows him his future selves if he does it. Cue Smith summoned to unit at the behest of liz 1 to fight the zygons while tennant woos her at the time of the initial attack by said zygons. The doctors all join forces in elizabethan times where various concepts are given to up including past doctor starting calculation on problem for present doc to use now and the use of time lord art to store people, places and creatures in a moment of time so they can escape at a later date. The 3 docs use a picture to travel to present day where unit face a parallel decision to doctor hurt, should they blow up london to save the planet. Doc forces them to sit down and agree a treaty. This decision made they return to the time war and help with the decision on whether to destroy gallifrey to save the universe. Smith changes his mind and comes up with the new plan to freeze gallifrey in a moment of time, which involves all 13 docs in unison. Gallifrey vanishes, daleks destroy each other in the cross fire. New quest begins to find gallifrey and release the time lords
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 185.26.180.19
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 07:50 pm:   

And series long story arcs began in the era of tom baker if not Pertwee. Key of time for example. Trial of a time lord for another.
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David Lees (David_lees)
Username: David_lees

Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 2.125.132.185
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 09:27 pm:   

Yeah, I had no trouble following it myself and thought it was great, though I thought it would have been as good, if not better, if they'd just used McGann as a broken, burned-out 8th Doctor in place of John Hurt. Considering the amount that went on in such a relatively short episode I'd say it was extremely good storytelling though.
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David Lees (David_lees)
Username: David_lees

Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 2.125.132.185
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 09:33 pm:   

There's also, this which I haven't watched yet but have heard good things about. It's a half hour comedy about Davison, Baker II and McCoy trying to get involved in the 50th anniversary.
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 212.183.128.14
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2013 - 11:22 pm:   

I still say they tried to cram far too much plot into an hour and a quarter running time. There was enough material and depth there for a whole series! I found it self-indulgent, rushed and dizzifying but enjoyed all the in-jokes and nostalgia and thought the chemistry of the three leads deserved far more screen time to flesh out their performances and emotional interactions... Hurt's in particular. I just wanted it to be so much better than what we got. Sorry, folks.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.145.222.14
Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - 01:05 am:   

You want the moon on a stick you do.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.134.106.230
Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - 01:22 am:   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERDUbAv8Qz0
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Stevie Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 212.183.128.14
Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - 08:27 am:   

That's hilarious!!

Stewart Lee is a genius, imo.
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Weber (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.145.222.117
Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - 05:14 pm:   

Interesting thought. With Hurt now as number 9, eccleston is 10 Tennant is 11 AND 12 because he had that thing when he was shot by the Dalek which makes Smith 13 and the last one. Of course we know Capaldi is stepping in, but I think we may get the answer on how he gets to extend the number of lives sooner rather than later.
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David Lees (David_lees)
Username: David_lees

Registered: 12-2011
Posted From: 90.198.205.3
Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - 07:00 pm:   

Hurt might not count as using up a regeneration, though, because of the way his was induced, rather than occurring naturally. It could be a grey area.

I also liked the way they addressed why the last couple of Doctors were younger and sillier, and why Capaldi will be older.

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