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Tony (Tony)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.137.109.102
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2019 - 06:49 pm:   

https://youtu.be/xE0kRwDXn7o
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 109.150.214.76
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2019 - 08:15 am:   

I remember a thing Kim Newman said, that the best horror films, the truly effective ones, are little seen ones, ones only you seem to have caught. While I'm looking forward to this I know just what he means.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 89.19.67.140
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2019 - 11:17 am:   

Oh yes, I think horror will always be niche. If the population goes towards it, it's not horror. (Or if it IS, then we're in trouble as a society. Maybe we are, with idiotic nastiness like WALKING DEAD being top-rated TV shows.)
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

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Posted From: 109.150.214.76
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2019 - 04:05 pm:   

Open, public horror is sideshow, carnival. Horror hides.
I enjoyed Walking Dead up to a point but it lost me when the guy with the bat appeared and killed those two men. For ME it was overstepping a mark. I have the serious belief that horror is a cure for depression, or a treatment - it lets you work things out, gives you a trial run of bad situations, matches the mood you might be in. But when it goes too far it can just take you right into that state you've been trying to avoid.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 213.233.150.31
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2019 - 08:00 pm:   

That was pure sadism, and masochism. It's like when bullies do Hallowe'en: out go subtle ghost and spirits, in come loud fireworks, "practical jokes" (excused for sadism and chaos) and fear of physical violence.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

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Posted From: 109.150.214.76
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2019 - 08:31 pm:   

Someone said horror on the page is different to horror on a screen, easier to deal with somehow. Game of Thrones, so sadistic too. It bothers me people like it so much.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 213.233.150.31
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2019 - 09:14 pm:   

Yes, I agree about GoT. And I worry what it means to use as a society that these are the most popular entertainments today, when they used to be Friends and Star Trek.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 213.233.150.31
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2019 - 09:17 pm:   

And even Star Trek is now Dark Trek. Idiotic and violent.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.135.7.229
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2019 - 07:11 pm:   

Actually it's not even that - it's also Dull Trek. I've stopped watching. Heck, I've been enjoying watching old Torchwood's more...
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 213.233.132.148
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2019 - 08:59 pm:   

Yeah, I decided not to watch season 2 after hating season 1. Well I watched what was almost universally lauded as the best ep in season 2. I hated it.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.158.154
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 11:58 am:   

What mistakes do you think it's making? I used to like the curly headed autisticy girl but now she's become almost a kind of avatar made up of every current Facebook trend. I just think it feels aimless. And formless.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.158.154
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 11:59 am:   

Crock is very flat, too.
Spock.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
Username: Protodroid

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.233.132.148
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 01:16 pm:   

"What mistakes do you think it's making?"

Oh, er, all of them?

It seems written by people who have little talent and less interest in Trek. They're running it like a burger franchise. It has contempt for the audience. As wobbly as it sometimes was, if you look at the depth of thought and world-building and passion put into ST:TNG, it's remarkable and give that show longevity. This has the feel of a cash grab. It's cynical and contemptuous of the audience. This all started ten years ago when it felt like Star Trek had been bought by some asset-stripping company. Now it's Generic Space Thing with "Remember this thing you recognise?" Imagine Hannibal Lector went home wearing that policeman's face and continued to live the policeman's life like that. I feel like that policeman's wife.

I miss Star Trek. We need it.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted From: 213.233.132.148
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 01:21 pm:   

To be fair, I don't know that the writing staff have no talent, just that if they have, they haven't displayed it in this show. There's no content. It's a show that is desperately trying to be catch your attention without earning it. It jingles its keys in front of us every week but when we turn our head towards it, it has nothing to say. When your setting is The Galaxy, that can only be a failure of imagination on the part of the writers.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.158.154
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 02:53 pm:   

No, was just wondering if what you disliked matched what I did. It does feel kidnapped. I came to quite like the first Abrams but the second was a disaster. And the third...well. It was like some estranged dad trying to win over his son with a new different and more expensive toy every visit.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.145.158.154
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 02:54 pm:   

I sometimes think big reboots should be given small budgets.

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