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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.43.119.113
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 01:57 pm:   

...While being abit under the weather, I have taken the opportunity to watch Chinatown again.

Aaah, what a great film...Ideal for sickdays.

633 Squadron next....

gcw
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.159.141.80
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 02:06 pm:   

Ba-ba-ba ba-ba-ba ba-BAAAA! Hope you feel a bit better soon, mate - CHINATOWN's the dog's though, isn't it?
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.43.119.113
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 05:39 pm:   

It sure is mate.

Indeed, the sequel 'The Two Jakes' is no slouch, though it can't match the original.

gcw
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.186.19
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   

Get well soon, Gcw. Here, have a swig of my opium tincture. ;-)

633 Squadron, eh? That takes me back...
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.43.119.113
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 05:55 pm:   

Cheers Huw...

(glug...)

NERHERRRRRR..aArgGGHHHHH!

The process is reversssssssing itself!

gcw
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Coral (Coral)
Username: Coral

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 91.111.11.195
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 11:47 pm:   

I'm sending you healing vibes woooooooooooo
Get well dear.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.5.3.13
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 05:22 am:   

I don't normally send healing vibes to other guys, but what the hell - your enthusiasm for Chinatown deserves you it. There's a film I can watch over and over and over....

So what are your faves in the (film) hardboiled detective genre?
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.43.119.113
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 12:46 pm:   

Thank you peeps, for the healing vibes - I hope the little buggers kick in soon.

To clarify, I have a hacking cough which keeps getting out of control at beddies time...seriously I thought I was gonna have a neart attack t'other night.

Though I can't sing at the mo', I am taking the 'me' time to make some serious progress on my next album,...recorded some stuff today & yesterday I am quite pleased with, though it's hard to get through a take without hacking my guts up!

Hardboiled detective...Gotta be Dirty Harry!

We need Callaghan now, to clean the scum off the streets...

Sigh, fantasy world...

gcw
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.236.82
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 04:01 pm:   

Dirty Harry?!?

Um, no.

I said "hardboiled detective." I'm not sure what sub-sub-genre Dirty Harry falls into... you got Mel Gibson there from the LETHAL WEAPON movies... and Will Smith from BAD BOYS... and so on... but Dirty Harry, tain't what I'm talking about....

I hereby retract my vibrations.
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.43.119.113
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 04:11 pm:   

If Harry ain't hardboiled -then who is??

You thinking more Philip Marlow....Or Bergerac?:-)

gcw
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.236.82
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 04:31 pm:   

Yep. (Bergerwho?...)

I guess Dirty Harry is "hardboiled" - but then, along the same lines, so is James Bond, and one wouldn't call Mr. Bond a hardboiled detective.

The hardboiled detective to me, is a "saintly" outsider to the system: he's a P.I., because he stands poised between the corruption of the law (police, government, etc.) and the devilish underbelly of society (gangsters, thieves, etc.) - and where he stands, is in the midst of the sinful, fallen masses.

He is jaded and cynical and drinks irony straight from the bottle; and though his words are purely ironic, his actions are purely idealistic: he is the last knight of a particular code of honor, which is exemplified by his quest for "the truth." Even the later corrupt hardboiled detectives are still saints of "the truth," because this is an indelible element of the hardboiled detective "template."

A quest for the "truth", an outsider, a code of honor, an irony-laced tongue... to me, four of the elements you can't excise from this genre... someone like that, I mean, Mr. G... Dirty Harry hits two; but he's not a through-and-through outsider, he's still too much a part of the system... and his reflections aren't exactly Hamlet-esque in their irony, their penetratingness... imho....
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 83.98.9.4
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 04:37 pm:   

Louie Knight - the hard boiled detective in the Aberystwyth series

Or there's Eric Garcia's "Rex" where the hero just happens to be a velociraptor dressed up as a human.

Both great takes on the traditional templates.

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