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     Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.97.200.24 |
I have been trying to track down his collections like: 'My Work is Not Yet Done: Three Tales of Corporate Horror' and 'The Nightmare Factory' and I'm realizing that these are going for some 70-80 pounds on second hand markets with no new reprints. (As far as I can see) Even Abebooks and Amazon used sellers want alot. I have read a couple of his stories which I liked and I really want to read his work now. Anybody here have double copies they want to sell, exchange for other titles or copious amounts of blood? (or other). | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.193.147 |
Karim, I'd no idea that Ligotti's books (especially the paperback edition of THE NIGHTMARE FACTORY, which I bought when it came out) were so scarce these days. There's a copy of his 'best-of' collection THE SHADOW AT THE BOTTOM OF THE WORLD on ABE for $13 - it's not quite as comprehensive as THE NIGHTMARE FACTORY, but it looks like a great collection, and probably your best bet if you're looking for something reasonably priced. Good luck! | ||
| Lincoln_brown (Lincoln_brown) Username: Lincoln_brown Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 58.164.113.168 |
Hi Karim, maybe this will help - http://www.camelotbooks.com/catalog/default.php?PHPSESSID=406c280ede1f93fb979db1 5494c2d5be&cPath=227 Or this - https://www.horror-mall.com/TREATRO-GROTTESCO-by-Thomas-Ligotti-Hardcover-p-1752 7.html Cheers, Lincoln. | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.97.200.24 |
Huv and Lincoln- Thanks. I am considering the Camelot copy- though with the more expensive US postage and customs this will probably put me back some 120 dollars for the copy. But those are still better prices than what I'm seeing. Thanks for the heads up! Huw- Thanks for that one! I guess its pretty scarce - How about a big nice collected reprint of his work anybody...? (well other than just the best of.) Reading a couple of interviews with him, made me even more curious. Thanks again. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
You should tear down walls with your face to get at a Ligotti collection. YOUR FACE! Failing that dig random holes in the gardens behind second hand bookshops...with your exposed hand bones! You might just strike lucky. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Have you tried the folk at his website? http://www.ligotti.net/index.php | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
This guy might still have his copy. http://www.ligotti.net/showthread.php?t=1289 | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.97.200.24 |
Albie: 'Failing that dig random holes in the gardens behind second hand bookshops...with your exposed hand bones!' Funny you mention it, I got a strange email yesterday- it was blank except for a big red X and two words. 'Dig here' Thanks for the tip! | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.244.67 |
I presume you have read these two stories of his online. http://www.ligotti.net/forumdisplay.php?f=82 | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.97.200.24 |
I did Albs-yesterday- they were very strong pieces. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.244.67 |
Have you read his interviews? How come reality hasn't spat him out you yet? | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.97.200.24 |
I read a couple- makes me more curious. | ||
| Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.78.35.170 |
> Have you read his interviews? He's not really a cheerful chap, eh. Karim, check this (straight from the publisher): http://tinyurl.com/yqf6a5 | ||
| Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.78.35.170 |
Karim, please contact me at: tom dot alaerts at gmail dot com | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.97.200.24 |
Thanks Tom. No he does not, but I like reading his comments on literature, the world, Nabokov, Lovecraft, the craft...good stuff. | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.97.200.24 |
Will do Tom. | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.246.232 |
Have you heard of this, Karim? Don't know where to find it.... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0997064/ | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.93.30.31 |
Craig : A limited special edition was announced of this march 5th on his official website: Wonder Entertainment proudly announces the release of THE FROLIC Collector's Edition DVD! This special edition features an exclusive book containing a newly revised version of "The Frolic" short story, interviews and more. DVD Contents THE FROLIC Short Film Audio Commentary Tracks (Director Jacob Cooney, Producer Jane Kosek and Actor Maury Sterling) "Making of The Frolic" Featurette Book Contents Introduction by Thomas Ligotti Revised Version of "The Frolic" Short Story The Frolic Screenplay with Introduction by Brandon Trenz Interview with Thomas Ligotti and Brandon Trenz Vision Statements by Director Jacob Cooney and Producer Jane Kosek Production Photographs (All Material Exclusive to Collector's Edition) Here: http://www.wonderentertainment.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=56& Itemid=58 | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.93.30.31 |
And here is a 2 minute clip from the film: http://www.filmbaby.com/films/2659 Looks interesting. | ||
| Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.242.129.203 |
I bought it, it arrived last week but I didn't get around watching it yet. The booklet is nice. | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 61.216.42.106 |
I haven't received mine yet. The latest in the HPL Collection DVD series is available now, too: STRANGE AEONS. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.240.83 |
We watched "The Frolic" at last year's World Horror Convention in Toronto, and I'm sorry to say it was pretty bad. The reason I'm sorry is because this is one of my favourite Ligotti stories and I really wanted it to be good. The direction is flat, the visual flourishes of Ligotti's prose don't make it anywhere near the screen, and they try to make the serial killer a sort of hip, clever fella rather than a terrifying maniac (as he is in the original tale). | ||
| John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.199.0.2 |
I saw it at FantasyCon and I agree with Zed - a fine tale rendered dull by uninspired TV-movie style direction. The director will no doubt have a career making those movies that turn up on Movies4Men from time to time | ||
| Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.242.129.203 |
I would love to see the Crampton script being filmed. I had a few minor issues with it but on the whole it read like a good scary novel. | ||
| Richard_gavin (Richard_gavin) Username: Richard_gavin Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 69.157.42.223 |
I'll be ordering The Frolic, regardless of its quality. I confess to being a Ligotti completist. He and Ramsey are my favourite living horror authors. I agree, Tom; Crampton would make a fantastic film. There was news on Thomas Ligotti Online some years ago that the script had been optioned by David Lynch's film company, but I think the deal must have fizzled. Although Lynch may not have been personally involved with the option, I was very excited by his possible involvement with the project on some level. I cannot think of a director more appropriate to direct a Ligotti script than David Lynch. Best, Richard | ||
| Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.242.129.203 |
Hi Richard, If I remember correctly, it wasn't Crampton that was optioned by DL's film company, but rather another script that TL and Brandon Trenz made based on "The last feast of the harlequin" (one of Ligotti's better ones, I think). I also once or twice read about a script titled "Michigan Basement". I have no idea what it's about, it is not (yet?) published. Perhaps it would be the same as the above script? | ||
| Richard_gavin (Richard_gavin) Username: Richard_gavin Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 69.157.42.223 |
Hi Tom, Now that you mention it, I think it was "The Last Feast of the Harlequin" that was optioned. Sorry about the mix-up there. Michigan Basement does sound familiar, but I'm not sure what, if anything, came of it. Best, Richard | ||
| Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.242.129.203 |
Anyway, we can only hope that Durtro will eventually publish this/these script(s)... | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
"The direction is flat, the visual flourishes of Ligotti's prose don't make it anywhere near the screen, and they try to make the serial killer a sort of hip, clever fella rather than a terrifying maniac (as he is in the original tale)." Dammit! I knew someone was going to say exactly that. I love that story. Anyone who hasn't read it has missed a major section of modern horror. And they go and turn it into another slasher film? I'll tease their guts out through a tiny hole and boil them in a pot, still connected so they feel it. | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 61.216.37.200 |
Damn, and I've been waiting patiently for my copy of THE FROLIC to arrive! Oh well... maybe the extras will be good. CRAMPTON (in its earlier incarnation) was originally a screenplay written for THE X-Files. My favourite Ligotti story is 'The Last Feast of Harlequin', but there are many others I like. I find I can only take his stuff in small doses, perhaps due to the underlying pessimism and dreariness. He conjures up some very strong nightmarish images in his writing. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.244.67 |
I find him quite jovial. Almost Bacchanalian. In comparison. The Red Tower is the dog's epididymis. All modern horror should now replicate that hovering eye style. | ||
| Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.78.35.170 |
Harlequin is also one of my fave TL stories. I haven't read all of them though. I also like the "corporat horror" trio "Our Temporary Supervisor", "My case for retributive action" and "My work is not yet done": they should have been printed together. The Red Tower is special, a story without a plot in the classic sense of the word. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
My favourite Ligotti's, from the ones I've read, are: THE FROLIC GAS STATION CARNIVALS THE BUNGALOW HOUSE PURITY I'm not a huge fan of his kind of fiction - I like characters to create an emotional resonance where Ligotti, for me, uses ciphers - but I know enough to see that he's very good indeed. The above tales, for example, are outstanding. | ||
| John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.253.174.81 |
I love his Three Tales of Corporate Horror - beautifully written stuff. And some of the images in Songs of a Dead Dreamer are truly the stuff of nightmares | ||
| Joel (Joel) Username: Joel Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.151.135.41 |
My favourites would include: Drink To Me Only With Labyrinthine Eyes Dr Locrian's Asylum The Greater Festival of Masks The Night School The Glamour Teatro Grottesco The Bungalow House The Clown Puppet Our Temporary Supervisor ...single favourite being 'Teatro Grottesco'. I'm much less keen on Ligotti's more philosophical and 'cosmic' stories. I already know space is big. And dark. And cold. I don't need the same information in much, much longer words. Ligotti is great at nightmarish, paranoid urban narratives. As a philosopher he's very dull (though no more so than many other philosophers). | ||
| Joel (Joel) Username: Joel Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.151.135.41 |
I'm not sure of the reasons for Ligotti's decision, some years ago, to publish collections only in the small specialist press. Prior to that, all his collections had mass-market imprints in the UK and the USA. Even now, expensively priced editions of his books sell out fast and are sought after, while his stories appear regularly in pro magazines and mass-market anthologies. Given that the readership of short horror fiction is not huge, Ligotti must be among its most successful practitioners – and on the whole, deservedly so. Yet a lot of the fan commentary around Ligotti's work suggests that it is far too intelligent for the great unwashed: only the chosen few can truly appreciate it. It's as if those unable to pay for expensive books did not deserve to read good fiction. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 172.189.73.241 |
The first Ligotti story I read was about an art gallery. It blew me away. Incredible story and writing. However, I purchased THE SHADOW AT THE BOTTOM OF THE WORLD and although the stories are high quality, none of them are as good as that first story (can't remember what it's called). Many of them seem half finished almost bare. There's something missing from them. None of them have approached the quality of that first story that promised so much. | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 61.216.37.200 |
Sort of on topic, I was inquiring about buying a Lgotti book from an Ebay seller - I just wanted to know if he'd ship to Taiwan - and received this by way of reply: YES,THE WAY I WORK IT WITH EUROPEOONS,ISTHERE IS NO TRACKING OR I WILL ADD A 54AVAILABLESO ITS YOUR RISK,BUT I WOONT SCREW YOU,I HAVE A PERFECT FEEDBACK RECORD! IF YOUR AGREABLE TO THIS I CAN PACK IT AND GET A SHIPPING QUOTE,WHICH,i will add 5$ toso as not get a haircut on the shipping as well by paypal.if your still interested,i'll get a quote I'm still trying to figure out exactly what it means... | ||
| John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 194.176.105.47 |
I think if you don't get a haircut on the shipping you're not getting value for money | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 172.189.73.241 |
I can imagine HuggyBear comeing out with speil like that, Huw! | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.118.176 |
Griff - was that The Last Feast of Harlequin? | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100 |
Nope. It was about a gallery/ museum down a backstreet. As he travells through he sees more and more distrubing things. It ends with him being shrunk and trapped beneath the coat of someone, a single small hand juts out of the coat before being pushed back in. Very distrubing story. It was part of an anthology of several horror writers. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100 |
This board's giving the wrong time! | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.118.176 |
Sorry Griff - thought that you meant a story in Shadow at the Bottom of the World. Skipped the art gallery bit. | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.184.242 |
Hmm... was it 'The Bungalow House', or perhaps 'Alice's Last Adventure', Griff? It's been a while since I read any Ligotti, and I don't have my copy of THE NIGHTMARE FACTORY to hand, otherwise I'd check to see which one has an art gallery setting. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
I was going to suggest The Bungalow House. It involved audio tapes, apparently. Inspired by actual tapes that his coworkers found on park benches made by a crazy religious man. Can't recall the story though. Typical with Ligotti. His plots vanish and leave you with a sense of...something weird. There was another about art which involved backwater towns. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
You can listen to The Bungalow House on here http://www.ligotti.net/local_links.php?catid=2 They've summarised it incorrectly as Mrs Rinadli's Angle but is it The Bungalow House. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
It is. ? | ||
| Joel (Joel) Username: Joel Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.151.135.41 |
'Mrs Rinaldi's Angle' presumably one of Ligotti's more oblique stories? | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.182.23 |
Good one, Joel! | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Doh!  | ||
| Lincoln_brown (Lincoln_brown) Username: Lincoln_brown Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 124.181.17.15 |
Karim - some Ligotti bargains(maybe!) - http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalienmotivesQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ32QQfsooZ2QQrdZ0 | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.93.30.31 |
Thanks Lincoln! Some good titles there for sale indeed. I did get a hold of some Ligotti stuff which I am enjoying a great deal. Looking at the list and the M.R. James title also reminds me that I did not get 'A Pleasing Terror'- the excellent Ash-Tree complete collection when it was originally available- and now it costs something like a small car. I wonder if that would ever be reissued... | ||
| Lincoln_brown (Lincoln_brown) Username: Lincoln_brown Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 121.220.112.243 |
A revised edition is on the way. See here - http://www.camelotbooks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2479&PHPSESSID= ce5c17f6bca9e17f399f70ba488c9b0f | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.93.30.31 |
Perfect. Thanks :-) | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40 |
What acute joke, Joel. | ||
| Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.243.25.138 |
> A revised edition is on the way. See here - http://www.camelotbooks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2479&PHPSESSID= ce5c17f6bca9e17f399f70ba488c9b0f what is not mentioned on the site is the high probability that the new edition will come in 2 volumes, which I think is a good idea: the current book, though magnificent, is a bit cumbersome when reading. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.244.67 |
I've got a pint of blood. Can I have some Ligotti, please? |