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     Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
Wow - just watching Naked. It's Leigh's Hamlet, isn't it? His Taxi Driver. Only richer than that movie in many ways. What a dark dream of a film, and certainly not just about dirty sex, which is all some seemed to harp on about. And is it me, or is it almost a dark Doctor Who film wherein the Doctor goes around moaning about us and shagging all his assistants? He'd be an ace Doctor, Thewliss. | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.219.211 |
The last sentence is the only one I agree with. I loathe NAKED. Put your clothes back on, Mike Leigh. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
Really? I found some of what I was watching unexpectedly uplifting in that it was so filled with ideas, albeit some pretty negative ones. Maybe it's my mood. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
It really is the flipside of Doctor Who. A black, cold energy. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.141.80 |
Got your text earlier, Tony, saying "David Thewlis for Doctor Who" and replied via text with my comment about his character in NAKED before I saw this thread! | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
Ha! Just got it. What a stunning actor. Also he's intelligent, and that would come through. But would he play the Doc? Well... he did Dr Moreau.  | ||
| Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.104.55.244 |
Tony I think Thewlis is amazing in Naked- It might be one of my favourite performances ever captured on film. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126 |
Yep, I've always loved NAKED - bleak, funny and clever. Thewlis is indeed superb in the role. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
You know Thewlis is a writer, Tone? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Late-Hector-Kipling-David-Thewlis/dp/0330373366 | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.242.142 |
That film put me off Thewlis for years. I really liked him in the extended KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, though, as a holy, human, wholly human character. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
I liked NAKED. I love doomsayers, generally. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
Me too, Albs. Me too. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.3.65.135 |
Unless one is referring to Barack Obama, natch.  | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243 |
My love of doomsayers doesn't mean that I love only them. Shades of grey, Friar...shades of grey.  | ||
| Joel (Joel) Username: Joel Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.37.199.45 |
Yes, NAKED is remarkably good, and free of the sentimentality that mars some other Mike Leigh films. It captures the insane loneliness of London life for the non-rich and the uprooted memorably. It's a miserablist classic (not a weepie... miserablists don't weep, they brood). | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.232.27 |
"Endgame" is pretty good, Thewliss playing against the inestimable Michael Gambon in that Becket TV series.... | ||
| Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4 |
I've never seen the film, but I like being... That joke's just not worthy is it? | ||
| Gcw (Gcw) Username: Gcw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.43.119.113 |
I watched Naked again the other night - on the same Film4 showing Tony saw I expect. First time I'd seen it since it came out - I loved it at the time, it was very hard hitting compared to Leagh's previous work. I was surprise at how old it seemed now (the washed out print didn't help) some of it I still liked and other bits irked. The Psychotic landlord seemed overacted to extremis as did the the late Caitlin Cartlidge (sorry, but she always seemed to have the same character in all the films I saw her in). Lesley Sharp was working on an embryonic version of her enduring one way of acting. Only David Thewlis as Johnny really impressed me this time around. I dunno, maybe l've grown out of Mike Leigh like I have Neil young. gcw | ||
| Adriana (Adriana) Username: Adriana Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.230.239.233 |
what??? Grown out of Neil Young??? God, that man is still home for me. I listened to him for 3 hours yesterday - saved me... I re-saw NAKED a year or so ago, and loved is almost as much as the first time. Not sure how different it is for an outsider seeing it - but for me it's almost perfection. Thewlis is just brilliant in it, imho. | ||
| Protodroid (Protodroid) Username: Protodroid Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.152.213.32 |
The new Doctor Who will be announced later today. I hope it's me. | ||
| Joel (Joel) Username: Joel Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 91.110.225.37 |
Neil Young grew out of himself – that's what makes his best work so remarkable. He was all set to be a soprano Gordon Lightfoot, and instead he turned bitter and abrasive. Admittedly one can get tired of his scrawny voice and his periodic dips into hippy navel-gazing. But the guts and commitment involved in playing songs like 'Ohio' and 'Let's Impeach the President' live over the years are considerable. And 'After the Goldrush' never fails to send a chill down my spine. | ||
| Adriana (Adriana) Username: Adriana Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.230.239.233 |
I don't find him bitter at all. I even use some of his more recent work as lullabies to help me get to sleep. He's like that though - rockin' out in one track, and singing you to sleep in the next... It's part of what I like about him. He's always himself, and you never know what's coming next. | ||
| Gcw (Gcw) Username: Gcw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.145.240.86 |
Hi A, Hi Joel! I dunno what happened to me & Neil...around '94 we just seemed to fall out with each other and I haven't been able to get my head around him since. I think it's the idolatry...He HAS done some great stuff, both acoustic and wired electric, but things seem to irk...the reedy voice, the over-rated clumsy 'rocking' of Crazy Horse (Give me The Stooges for wired Rock n'roll anyday -the 'Horse just PLOD!) I do like 'Fucking Up' off Ragged Glory though... And Harvest MOON is a lovely album. gcw |