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Lincoln Brown (Lincoln_brown)
Username: Lincoln_brown
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 121.219.228.84
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 12:06 am: | |
It appears that Humdrumming have gone under. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.184.194
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 12:58 am: | |
That's a real pity. Humdrumming have been producing some quality books lately - Rain Dogs and Beneath the Surface, to name a couple. |
Alansjf (Alansjf) Username: Alansjf
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 93.97.93.216
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 01:11 am: | |
Mighn't it just be a revamp of the website...? But if it's true, that sucks. I've been impressed with every Humdrumming book I've read - and there was one mentioned in one of the story notes in the 2nd HBoHS, a collection of interviews with various horror writers, that I really liked the sound of. |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.111.224
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 01:26 am: | |
The official word is that there's some internal stuff -- reorganising, etc., -- going on right now. We're told not to panic and that things are being sorted, but for the interim they aren't shipping books. Who knows what the actual truth is, but any preorders should have been shipped by now, and that includes any dealer orders, so for the interim you'll still be able to buy the Humdrumming books, just not from Humdrumming. |
Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
Username: Jamie
Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 99.240.155.122
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 01:54 am: | |
That's relatively good news, Simon. |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.111.224
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 01:59 am: | |
Let's hope it stays good news, otherwise my brand new book will end up a bit stillborn, which would be more than a bit unfortunate. |
Lincoln Brown (Lincoln_brown)
Username: Lincoln_brown
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 121.219.228.84
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 02:00 am: | |
http://www.horror-mall.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3250 |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.111.224
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 02:35 am: | |
Well, like I said, the word I was told was the "official" word, but I made no claims to its veracity. I had hopes things would work out (even though I knew those hopes were unlikely, to say the least) but it sounds like, from that thread, there's no hope left. Ah well. if anyone wants a copy of my book I can direct you to a local store that currently has copies. My condolences to Mike Kelly, whose novel never made it to the printer. |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 02:41 am: | |
:-( I really liked the books I got from them. |
Tom English (Deadletterpress)
Username: Deadletterpress
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 216.54.1.35
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 04:10 am: | |
Two days ago I received a confirmation from Humdrumming that my copy of Simon's Beneath the Surface had shipped. I hope they can pull out of whatever quagmire they're in. |
Guy (Guy) Username: Guy
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.152.168.80
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 08:52 am: | |
It's all hugely depressing. As some of you know I used to be part of the company and there's no doubt I hoped the last twelve months or so - for which I can take no credit - would see it grow bigger and bigger. Apparently that's not to be. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 10:36 am: | |
Yes, very depresssing. I love Humdrumming books, and this current state of affairs is awful. As far as I know, trading has ceased and the assets are now in the hands of the receivers, but all existing orders are apparently to be shipped. I won't go into my own personal thoughts on a public forum, but I really think this has been an opportunity missed - it shouldn't have happened. |
Des (Des)
Username: Des
Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.128
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 10:52 am: | |
If above is true, a similar sad thing happened to Tanjen books in the nineties. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.104.40
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 11:30 am: | |
Really sorry to hear about all this, especially for Simon and Mike. |
Alansjf (Alansjf) Username: Alansjf
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 93.97.93.216
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 11:35 am: | |
Hell, not just a website revamp then. That's a real shame. I only hope all those authors effected by this can place their work elsewhere. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.104.40
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 11:35 am: | |
And off the board - John Travis was supposed to have his collection out next year with Humdrumming too...really sad. |
Simon_b (Simon_b) Username: Simon_b
Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 82.3.79.116
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 11:40 am: | |
This is very sad to hear. Humdrumming put some great stuff out. It really looked like they were here for a long haul as well- some bookshop distribution, a great lineup of material. A crying shame. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.104.40
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 12:00 pm: | |
All the discounts that distrubutors are demanding between 40-57% are crippling the small presses. Amazon (with the kindle market) are reeling producers in with small discounts and then they will hike them up when they have them. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.3.65.135
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 12:12 pm: | |
Unless you're very lucky or working at it full-time with a smart business head on you, I think small press publishing is a labour of love. Ally, distributors like Cold Tonnage etc pay for shipping charges, so 40% is reasonable. I've always made sure that the dealer and myself have made roughly the same profit on a book. That's how I price them, no more, no less. Any direct sales boast my returns. |
Jonathan (Jonathan) Username: Jonathan
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.69.25.130
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 12:56 pm: | |
This is exceedingly bad news. Humdrumming were one of the most vibrant and exciting new publishers around. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.104.40
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 01:21 pm: | |
If CD pay shipping that is reasonable but I wonder how many of the others do that. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.3.65.135
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 01:32 pm: | |
All of them. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.104.40
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 01:47 pm: | |
Do the stateside ones do that too - like Horror Mall? |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.3.65.135
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 01:58 pm: | |
Yeah. You have to ask, of course. Mind you, I've had a falling out with Horror Mall - some dispute over a damaged delivery. They won't be stocking GFP books in future. It's a nightmare, you know - that's why I call it a labour of love. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.104.40
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 02:02 pm: | |
True Gary - very true. |
Michael_kelly (Michael_kelly) Username: Michael_kelly
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 66.212.165.199
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 02:47 pm: | |
Sigh. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.141.80
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 03:01 pm: | |
Very sad - ordered Mike Kelly's novel too. Ah well... |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.111.224
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 03:07 pm: | |
I'm told all pre-orders will be refunded. Still, that wouldn't stop me from talking to PayPal/my credit card company, just in case. |
Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.244.22.71
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 03:41 pm: | |
I really hope that I'll eventually receive your book. I mean it must physically exist as I believe you signed it for me at the conference. |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.254.209.182
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 05:15 pm: | |
Did you get a PayPal notification about it shipping? If so, then it should have. |
Mark_lynch (Mark_lynch) Username: Mark_lynch
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 212.74.96.200
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 07:31 pm: | |
Very sorry to hear this for those people most directly involved. Hey, Simon, it'll just mean you'll get a bigger and better deal elsewhere, fella. I've confidence in you. |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.111.224
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 09:48 pm: | |
That's one of us ... |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 09:59 pm: | |
Did Hill House just collapse as well? Christ... |
Tom English (Deadletterpress)
Username: Deadletterpress
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 216.54.1.35
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 10:30 pm: | |
I'm really sorry to hear this, Simon. But there WILL be other book deals in your future. As Gary said above, buying directly from the small presses greatly helps us to survive. Not to make a profit, but to survive. Most people, however, continue to buy from dealers. Catch-22, these specialty booksellers make small press publishing viable. Unfortunately, the booksellers are also hurting financially these days. I have a seller who owes me over $800 but is simply in no shape to pay. What do you do? What can you do but wait and hope things improve? In the meantime, common sense tells me not to add to the debt by shipping more books to that seller. So I've lost (for the present, at any rate) perhaps my biggest seller. Btw, anyone want a copy of a Rhys Hughes novel? |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 10:53 pm: | |
But the books are already published right, can't the books then be distributed via other sellers, other channels? I am speaking of Mr. Strantzas collection? |
Steve Bacon (Stevebacon)
Username: Stevebacon
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 90.209.220.3
| Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 11:00 pm: | |
I'm surprised by this, too. I thought Humdrumming, in the grand scheme of things, were probably in a better state than most small presses. Just shows you it's nothing to do with the quality of work or finished product; given the state of the global economy, I hope this isn't the shape of things to come. |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.111.224
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:47 am: | |
I think Humdrumming got surprised by this, too. There are a myrid of reasons this happened, not all appropriate for publication here (as my good friend Mr McMahon points out). Karim, I'm in the process of trying to secure the rest of my print run in hopes of distributing them myself to interested parties/dealers. Not the best outcome, but the best of a bad situation. Luckily the book sold so well at Fcon that there aren't many copies left. |
Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.244.22.71
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:58 am: | |
> Did you get a PayPal notification about it shipping? If so, then it should have. I didn't get such mail. a while ago I asked Humdrumming and then they mailed me that it should ship soon, which surprised me as the book was ready for shipping immediately after you signing it. So This afternoon I sent a new mail to that person, but sadly no response yet. |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.111.224
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 02:08 am: | |
I've sent an enquiry as well on your behalf, Tom. We'll see what happens. |
Mark West (Mark_west) Username: Mark_west
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.39.177.173
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 11:09 am: | |
This is bad news - for Humdrumming, who I thought were well grounded and destined for greatness; for the great writers involved and poor Mike and Carol (and, obviously, many others) who never quite made it to the market; and for us lot, who enjoyed their output. |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 204.104.55.243
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:37 pm: | |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHZUPJji6w8 If people are feeling a little blue, here is a clip of Maru the cat that has this thing for boxes. |
Richard_gavin (Richard_gavin) Username: Richard_gavin
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.110.174.71
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 04:19 pm: | |
It is disheartening to see another publisher close up shop. I can only imagine the frustration of Simon, whose excellent debut collection won't get the initial exposure it deserves, and Michael, whose collaborative novel came extremely close to seeing the light of day before Humdrumming folded. However, I have every confidence that both BENEATH THE SURFACE and OUROBOROS will emerge (or in Simon's case, re-emerge) in the future. |
Michael_kelly (Michael_kelly) Username: Michael_kelly
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 207.188.66.207
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 04:33 pm: | |
Fwiw, Simon's collection arrived in the post today. So it does appear they are shipping the book. I'd pre-ordered ages ago. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 06:04 pm: | |
The person I most feel sorry for in all this is me.
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Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 38.113.181.169
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 06:15 pm: | |
I feel sorry for you, too. For all sorts of reasons. |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 38.113.181.169
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 06:34 pm: | |
Thank you all for the support here, especially my good friend Richard. It's a small consolation, but since the announcement I've been selling books like gang-busters. I guess everyone was waiting until the last minute, but it seems the last one was sooner than anyone was prepared for. Mike, don't forget to bring your copy on Saturday to the HWA dinner so I can sign it for you. |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.255.200
| Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 07:51 pm: | |
General Motors here in the States isn't doing so well either... if that makes you feel any better.... |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.191.74
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 04:33 am: | |
It's a shame about Humdrumming, but I'm really glad to hear that Beneath the Surface has been selling so well, Simon. Have you thought about a second printing? I doubt you'll have any trouble finding another publisher. I haven't got my copy yet, but I expect it's en route. |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.111.224
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 05:36 am: | |
Have you received a notification of shipment, Huw? Let me know and if not I'll follow up for you. As for a second printing: I don't have the same faith as you at the moment. Who'd want it after the initial flood of readers have already hit? Once the remainder of these copies go, I'll try and gauge the interest level from those who missed out and maybe then approach someone about printing some more. And if somehow I get some award recognition, that should help too. It's been a strong year, though, for collections, and I doubt I can compete with Messrs Meloy, Samuels, and McMahon. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.178.201
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 08:41 am: | |
I was in touch with them in mid-September about the shipping cost to Taiwan, but haven't heard anything since then. I'm hoping it's on the way... |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.111.224
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 10:58 am: | |
Huw, I just this moment received confirmation that your book has been posted. No worries. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.192.189
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:03 am: | |
Thanks, Simon! That's a great relief. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.78.34.159
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:05 am: | |
Troo and Lee have put up an official announcement on the Humdrumming site. |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.111.224
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:22 am: | |
I doubt I can compete with Messrs Meloy, Samuels, and McMahon. And Ms Bird, too, come to think of it. (Even though I haven't read past the inscription.) |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.78.34.159
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:29 am: | |
Why thank you Simon. Women in horror writing fully intend to give the boys a run for their money. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.3.65.135
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:33 am: | |
Lucky we're all skint, then, innit? |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.78.34.159
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 12:54 pm: | |
'Even though I haven't read past the inscription.' You are never going to get over that I wrote something nice to Mike Kelly and not to you are you? I was knackered. BFS = lots of Guinness. The inscription to Mike was done in the peace and quiet at home. I'm sorry!!!!!!!!! |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.199.248
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 12:56 pm: | |
I liked the inscription on my copy, Ally. Thanks! |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.78.34.159
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 01:12 pm: | |
Oh lord...that's done it now. Thanks Huw! |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 01:19 pm: | |
Yeah, everyone but Simon got an inscription. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 01:28 pm: | |
I loved my inscription as well. Thanx. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.78.34.159
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 01:29 pm: | |
You are such a trouble maker...wait 'til I get hold of you. Everyone at F'ncon got FCON O8 cos I didn't want to write anything trite and not thought out. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 01:38 pm: | |
But some people got extras... |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.3.65.135
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 01:41 pm: | |
>>>cos I didn't want to write anything trite and not thought out But Simon's a fan of Zed's fiction. He wouldn't have noticed the difference. Hahahahaha. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.78.34.159
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 01:47 pm: | |
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Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 38.113.181.169
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 01:58 pm: | |
I didn't want to write anything trite and not thought out. Yeah, you didn't think my inscription out at all, did you? Ally, can you send me the copy of BENEATH THE SURFACE you bought? I'd like to change my inscription to you. |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 38.113.181.169
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:00 pm: | |
But Simon's a fan of Zed's fiction. He wouldn't have noticed the difference. Oh, I know Zed's fiction is trite and not thought out, but at least I'm prepared for it before I read it. Ally's inscription came as a shock! |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 38.113.181.169
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:02 pm: | |
BTW, I'm just messing with you Ally. No worries about the inscription. Actually, it's better it doesn't have one as I was so angry it was missing I immediately put the book up on eBay. It's doing quite well! I'm going to use the money to buy more copies of my own book back |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.78.34.159
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:10 pm: | |
Okay |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 38.113.181.169
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:15 pm: | |
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Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:17 pm: | |
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
Username: Jamie
Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 192.26.212.72
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:27 pm: | |
Can't you just feel the love? |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:29 pm: | |
I certainly did when I read my inscription |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.78.34.159
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:43 pm: | |
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
Username: Jamie
Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 192.26.212.72
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:52 pm: | |
Pages stuck together? I hear that was a problem in the middle ages. |
Des (Des)
Username: Des
Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.29
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 08:26 pm: | |
How do these comments fit into what happened at Humdrumming? http://rhysaurus.blogspot.com/2008/11/goodbye-humdrumming.html Or is it premature to apportion blame? des |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 38.113.181.169
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 08:45 pm: | |
It really depends on who you want to believe, Des. Every side has its story |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 09:25 pm: | |
Indeed, there are always at least two sides to every story - usually more. |
Des (Des)
Username: Des
Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.29
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 01:53 pm: | |
For the record, I note Rhys has altered his blog from yesterday. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.141.80
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 02:01 pm: | |
Tried to start a Paypal dispute to get my dosh back, but got this:- Please note that refunds cannot be issued through PayPal's resolution centre. Humdrumming Ltd. is no longer trading and, by refunding your money, would be seen to be breaking the law by offering a creditor preferential treatment. Humdrumming's affairs are being handled by David Chappell of GCP, and if you have any questions regarding outstanding invoices or monies owed please contact him via xxxxxxxxxxxxx ...which all seems understandable given the circumstances, so I'm going to wait and see. I'm only owed just over £15 but I'd rather get it back than not, although I'm not holding my breath over it. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.141.80
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 02:04 pm: | |
It's a shame as my few dealings with Humdrumming in the past have been superb, and they've always been most helpful and friendly, unlike that bastard behind Gray Friar, up in his tower rolling naked in his ill-gotten gains. Allegedly. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.11.219
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 02:24 pm: | |
'Allegedly.' Bit of an after thought there Mick, he would have sued you know if you hadn't have added that |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 129.11.76.230
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 02:33 pm: | |
Mick's the only person tall enough to see me up in my tower doing that. I knew I shouldn't have dealt with giants. First rule of business. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 61.216.33.194
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 02:44 pm: | |
Simon, my copy of Beneath the Surface arrived today. I picked it up on the way to hospital (I was sitting in the waiting room examining it, and got some curious looks from other patients). It's a very attractive book, both in size and design. The inscription is lovely - I'm very, very happy with it. Thanks! |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 02:45 pm: | |
There's a customer review of Sanity AOD on Amazon |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 129.11.77.198
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 02:52 pm: | |
Huh? What's that all about, then? |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 03:48 pm: | |
I didn't say it was useful. I just said there was a review. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 129.11.77.197
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:38 pm: | |
Did you put it up? |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:40 pm: | |
There is a reason but it's long tedious and slightly less interesting than the review. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 129.11.77.197
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:43 pm: | |
Please tell me. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:43 pm: | |
Basically it boils down to showing a work colleague how to post a review on Amazon while I was coincidentally looking at your book. I should have given it more stars I suppose. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:47 pm: | |
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 129.11.77.198
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:49 pm: | |
Weber, don't take this the wrong way, but I wished you'd at least asked me about this first. |
Des (Des)
Username: Des
Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.29
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:51 pm: | |
It might be because I'm listening to Liszt at the moment on earphones, but I'm completely confused... |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:52 pm: | |
Is that rhyming slang, Des? |
Des (Des)
Username: Des
Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.157.25.29
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:53 pm: | |
No, Totentanz. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 129.11.77.198
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 04:54 pm: | |
Dies Irae. Hmm. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 05:07 pm: | |
No offense intended. I would have posted it against whatever book/film/cd I was looking at at the time. I also thought there was a way to remove your own reviews but I can't see it if there is. I didn't insult it at all. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 129.11.77.198
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 05:10 pm: | |
But... Oh, never mind. Just think about it. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 129.11.76.229
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 05:21 pm: | |
OK, I'll spell it out: potential buyer from the publisher, undecided on whether to buy - decides to take a quick look on Amazon - sees the 'lukewarm' three stars - decides not to bother clicking to unfurl the review - decides not to buy... Not rocket science, man. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 05:22 pm: | |
I've already emailed amazon to ask to remove it |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 129.11.76.229
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 05:24 pm: | |
OK. Thanks. No big issue, you know, but think it through, yeah? |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 38.113.181.169
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 06:12 pm: | |
Weber, Gary, I think this forum thread might prove illuminating http://www.britishfantasysociety.org/bfsdiscuss/index.php?topic=1642.0 |
Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 38.113.181.169
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 06:15 pm: | |
Simon, my copy of Beneath the Surface arrived today. I picked it up on the way to hospital (I was sitting in the waiting room examining it, and got some curious looks from other patients). It's a very attractive book, both in size and design. The inscription is lovely - I'm very, very happy with it. Thanks! Your welcome for the inscription, Huw. I know how very important it is to let people you like know how you feel about them by writing it in an inscription. Yes, the inscription is a sign that you care for and respect the recipient, and thus very very important to get right. But, seriously, I'm glad you like the book, and will consider it a personal triumph if I've managed to write something the insides of which you like as well. I'm frankly amazed it's already there! |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.11.219
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 06:36 pm: | |
I'M SORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.11.219
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 07:09 pm: | |
Oh go on you can have this inscription.... 'Peace now, lords, for Godis Head, Ye chirk as starlings that be fed, And gape as fishes newly dead, The devil put your bones to bed.' Stick and paste |
Coral (Coral) Username: Coral
Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 91.108.102.57
| Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 12:25 am: | |
Quite a few peeps here seem to be affected by this, that's some rotten bad luck |