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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 11:11 am:   

This really looks miles better than it should. I'm actually really excited! Watch in HD for a true wowzer...
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/fridaythe13th/
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 12:04 pm:   

Would you believe I've never even seen the original?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 12:11 pm:   

Don't bother.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 12:16 pm:   

Yes, do!
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 12:32 pm:   

It couldn't be worse if Joe Cocker had performed the title track.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 02:51 pm:   

HA! Steve Miner, the director of two or three 13ths, directed Wonder Years, the theme of which was sung by Cocker! Did you know that, Gary?

I think this trailer rocks. And is CREEPY.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 02:55 pm:   

Of course I knew that!

[???] :-)
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 03:12 pm:   

Thought so.
Weird that, isn't it?
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 03:13 pm:   

Someone should make a crossover.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 03:14 pm:   

'What would you do, if I ran after you...?'
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 06:57 pm:   

The Friday the 13th films are possibly the only horror film franchise I have little time for other than to laugh at them. They were a constant source of amusement and ridicule when I was at school. Parts 1 & 2 were often being slapped into the top-loading betamax to brighten up a dreary day. We were all too young to see Part III when it came out at the cinema so I wrote my own version of what it might be like and we did it as the most notorious house play our school ever put on. Admittedly I was heavily influence by H G Lewis' The Gruesome Twosome for some reason, and my special effect boys were Dead Kennedys & Bauhaus obsessives who liked blowing things up a lot, but "Friday the 13th Part 1983" did quite well considering it should have had an audience of no-one.

Another chapter for the autobiography I think.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 07:01 pm:   

Thanks for that anecdote, Lord P - it put a smile on my face on an otherwise miserable day.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 08:13 pm:   

A pleasure as always my dear chap
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 09:32 pm:   

I saw the end of Jason Takes Manhattan once, and I've seen some good-enough slash'em-up scenes out of context over the years. But I don't think I could bring myself to sit through an entire film of it.
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 09:35 pm:   

Oh, and eerily, my mother died on a Friday the 13th. I'm sure it's not that uncommon, but it feels like it.

And no, she wasn't machete'd to death.
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 09:52 am:   

The trailer IS seriously creepy! I always enjoyed the original. I first saw it when I was about 10 (I think) and got properly scared. My two creepiest moments are when Alice and ___ (I forget the guy's name) find the bloody ax lying in a bed and Alice says, "WHAT is going on?" Also the bit where one of the guys hears a noise in a cabin, sees a shape inside and wanders in after it, meekly calling, "Hello?" So subtle and shivery.

The endless sequels got repetitive and silly, but that mask always did scare me. I had a blast in school when I got to work in a haunted house over Halloween (one of those you put on to scare the kids). My favourite job was being Freddy's victim in a torn, bloody nightgown, screaming myself hoarse, getting slashed up and crawling towards the kids as they were led through, hysterically crying, "It's only a dream!"

It was almost as much fun when I was Jason's victim (despite the incongruous chainsaw he used in our version), again doing my "Help me!" bit as I grabbed at their feet and made them jump away. Then Jason ran out of the back room to chase them back into the street. Ah, memories...
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 10:09 am:   

PROBERT AGREES WITH FRY ON HORROR FILM! MCMAHON CAST INTO THE PIT OF DISREGARD!
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 03:14 pm:   

It's too late to attack the FRIDAY THE 13TH movies, or Jason Voorhees: they are iconic, and they are cemented into - they ARE - the slasher film genre, a sub-category of the larger horror genre.

FRIDAY THE 13TH, that first one, is - considering the time, etc. pretty shocking, inventive - sophisticated even (M. Night would be proud of its "twist"). FRIDAY THE 13TH Pt. II is the first appearance of Jason as the bloody mindless murderer-thing, and the film was notoriously hacked to death by the censors; I still wait for this one, and for MY BLOODY VALENTINE, to someday, in some heavenly-bright future, to be restored to their original versions... have they been yet? anyone know?...
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 06:29 pm:   

For the legend, they say
on a Valentine's Day
is a curse that'll live on and on...

And no one will know
as the years come and go
of the horror from long time ago...
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 07:32 pm:   

The ending of Jason takes Manhattan, with Jason crying out for his mommy as toxic waste washes over him, is actually rather disturbing, now that I think of it.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 07:52 pm:   

And even Freddy v Jason has it's poignant scenes. It's funny, but does anyone here HATE Jason as a villain? I've always felt sort of sorry for him.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 08:22 pm:   

I've never seen any of the Friday 13th films. Sean Cunningham seems a bit sleezy to me, almost like he's Wes Craven's id.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 03:10 am:   

McMAHON AGRESS WITH CRAIG...aomeone inform the press.

I will give you one image: Bed. Kevin Bacon. Neck. Arrow.

Thank you.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 05:17 am:   

Niki, did you love MY BLOODY VALENTINE as much as I did...? I actually hope Hollywood will remake this one.

MCMAHON AND CRAIG CAST FRY AND PROBERT INTO DISREGARDED PIT ALONG WITH ALL OTHER NAYSAYERS AND THE LURKING BLOODTHIRSTY MR. VOORHEES, is the real headline....
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 11:05 am:   

Craig, I did love that one. The final scene was one of my very favourite endings. It's not brilliant and could benefit from a sympathetic remake, but I never get my hopes up. They'll always want bigger and gorier, which doesn't equal scarier.

NIKI DIVES INTO PIT AFTER PROBERT BECAUSE HE STILL HASN'T STITCHED HER OTHER LEG BACK ON...
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 11:30 am:   

Proto - the 13ths feel innocent rather than sleazy, oddly enough. It's a kind of seaside postcard naivette.
Last year I watched Friday 13th in a log cabin in the woods. It didn't scare me but to do so was awesome. It even rained heavy.
(But you know what put me off the film? THEY KILLED A SNAKE! Really painfully, too. I actually got quite upset about it.)
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 03:38 pm:   

I have never found Jason scary or sad - simply a figure of fun. Part VI is probably the funniest of the series for the right reasons, Part V is probably the funniest for the wrong

FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE BOLIVIAN JUNGLE PROBERT RESISTS 'HOPPING MAD' PUNCHLINE & SAYS HE HAS STITCHED NIKI'S LEG BACK ON - JUST NOT TO HER.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 03:42 pm:   

You see, that snake thing is enough for me not to watch it. There's even an animal dying onscreen in Romancing the Stone -- there's a bit where a jeep drives over a chicken. Horrible, it is. The white thing just disappears under a tyre. I haven't heard anyone else ever mention it, though.

I was an extra on Veronica Guerin (wouldn't have gone if I'd known Joel Schumacher was directing) and while shooting at a greyhound track, one of the stunt animals got too excited and ran into the road and was hit by a car. I be they still had that "no animals were harmed" thing at the end of the film, too.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 06:14 pm:   

The final scene was one of my very favourite endings.

It is great, Niki, even despite its obvious censor-hacks. It's "not brilliant" indeed, but there is just something about MBV that elevates it above the usual fare of the time... like BLACK CHRISTMAS... and I, being perhaps the only fan of that remake (?), think its strength rested on the strength of the original... neither marred the other: the purists have their original to enjoy, and then there's another one with quite a different feel to it... maybe the same can happen for MBV.

Recent remakes of shitty old films, still suck - PROM NIGHT is execreble, WHEN A STRANGER CALLS is watchable shite, etc. The originals of these were hardly good, even if they are high in nostalgia-nutrients....

When are they going to do a definitive remake of SLEEPAWAY CAMP, speaking of?...
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 06:37 pm:   

The first 15 minutes of When a Stranger Calls (orig.) makes my "scariest ever" list. The movie dragged after that, but the opening scene gave me nightmares and is probably one of the reasons I was never a babysitter.

Incidentally, don't you really resent having to specify "original" when you talk about movies? I sure do. I mentioned Wicker Man to someone the other day and they asked, "The one with Ellen Burstyn?" I was far more annoyed than I really ought to have been, but still... Ugh!
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 07:18 pm:   

FRY POSTS HIS LAST MESSAGE ON THE RCMB AND THEN IN TRUE VOORHEES STYLE GOES AROUND ALL THE MEMBERS' HOMES AND PERSUADES ANYONE WHO EVER CLAIMED THAT HE KNEW NOWT ABOUT FILMS THAT THEY WERE RATHER ABRASIVE IN THEIR COMMENTARY.

WITH A BIG KNIFE.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 07:28 pm:   

Absolutely, NIki - the first 15 of orig. WASC is brilliant. In fact, I believe that that IS a complete film, was a short film that either got remade for the feature, or was used as the opening; the rest of the movie in fact is a tacked-on expansion of it - and boy does it ever feel like it. One of the few instances where 15 minutes feels like the film, and the 75 minutes remaining a painfully-prolonged denouement....

Btw: not having seen many obvious classic films...? Me and the orig. THE WICKER MAN...?
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 10:51 pm:   

I actually hope Hollywood will remake this one.

Hopes are answered: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Bloody_Valentine_(2009_film)
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 11:15 pm:   

I just hope they keep that rather cool murder ballad. Craig, Niki- glad to find a couple of fellow My Bloody Valentiners.

Friday the 13th? Always found them pretty laughable. The first one's not bad, but the rest are pretty samey.

Does anyone remember a movie called 'Wacko'? Made in the early 80s and spoofed the horror genre in general and slasher movies in particular. With Joe Don Baker, who's always good. The killer's opening line 'Death to all teenagers who fuck!'- basically sums up the Friday the 13th series in a nutshell...

(Another great moment- the psychiatrist who gives a long shopping list of the killer's various lunacies and when asked to sum it up in plain English, simply says: 'If you piss him off, run!')
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 11:16 pm:   

Apparently there's a new Region 1 DVD edition of My Bloody Valentine in the offing, but the cut scenes are offered only as extras.

Yes indeed, the opening reel of When a Stranger Calls was the short that was developed into a feature (or was the short remade as the opening reel)? I remember seeing the film on its original release in New York with Jack Sullivan, who admired that reel so much we watched it again.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 12:29 am:   

I remember that opening. It was so powerful the rest of the movie evaporated from my mind in a blink. Like - alomst irrelevantly - the bit at the beginning of Cliffhanger, where the woman falls off the mountain.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 12:32 am:   

And Proto - I remember that bit with the chicken. I used to feel tense watching the film again and think yes, I stopped watching it for the same reason. As William Friedkin said on the radio the other day; 'I don't think a film's worth the life of one squirrel.'
Apparently there's a Paul Naschy film where they set fire to a bunch of rats to liven up a scene. Who in Hell would want to watch that?
And Oldboy - a bloke eats a live octopus. Bye bye Oldboy...
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 12:49 am:   

I hated Oldboy for other reasons too. Basically its self-conscious efforts to shock us. Studenty.

As we know, William Friedkin fired a shotgun to get a shocked reaction from one of The Exorcist actors. Sam Fuller used to fire a rifle instead of saying "action". I got to say "action" a while back when I directing something. It's great to get to do it for real. Like "stop the presses" or "follow that car".
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 01:34 am:   

I really liked Oldboy, but I'm not sure how Will Smith will do in the remake.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 04:35 am:   

... And what's done to rabbits in one of Ramsey's favorite, La Regle du Jue, tch-tch-tch....

A Region 1 MBV dvd? With the cut scenes in it? Hell yeah!... Wait, am I Region 1?...
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 09:20 am:   

I've got the Region 1 widescreen edition (90 min. running time) of MBV. I don't know about any missing scene. My brother and I used to watch it on cable TV, so I've no idea if it was cut at the time or not and I didn't recognise any unfamiliar scene when I watched the DVD (that was a year or so ago).
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 09:23 am:   

Oh and yes, the death of the snake in F13 always upset me, as do the deaths of any animals - actual or faked. I have to cover my eyes at the end of APOCALYPSE NOW. I know the people aren't really being harmed, but it makes me feel ill to see animals (even spiders or insects) killed in a film.

No, I've never seen CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST and won't.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 12:16 pm:   

I can't watch Apocalypse Now.
Friedkin slapped a vicar at the end of The Exorcist, to make him upset. He said in this interview he regrets all this stuff, that he was an asshole. He sounded nice, now, and it was good to hear someone realise they'd changed.
It's odd, but I also can't watch that Clooney film, the Elmore Leonard thing, because a goldfish gets squished in it - not for real, either. You think I'd know better.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 01:41 pm:   

Simon - The Tony Schlongini song from Wacko became a bit of a favourite in my undergraduate years, along with that scene where Tony tries to turn the girl into a trifle

"Hey - I've gots dibs on this sundae!"

Or that classic exchange between the detective and the psychiatrist:

"Tell the chief what you told me."
"I love black women"
"Not that! I mean about the murderer who escaped!"
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 02:32 pm:   

"I can't watch Apocalypse Now."

How so, Tony? It's easily my number one film.
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Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 03:43 pm:   

Given the context, I'd say the butchering of the ox(?) might have something to do with it.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 04:16 pm:   

That's it. Great film otherwise. I suppose it reassured me that the ox wasn't killed for the film, but rather an incident that was already happening anyway regardless. Either way, I can't watch it.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 05:15 pm:   

I really liked CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST - gosh, if it's the one I'm thinking of, these jungle-cannibal movies tend to mix up their titles - but if it's the one about the film being found that is shown, that becomes the last half of the film... yes, that one's quite good. What they do to that turtle alone, though - it's horrendous. I don't even think it was stock film at that point, if I remember correctly. Makes you wonder why a God-flung meteor hasn't struck Earth a long long time ago....
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 05:21 pm:   

Niki, I'm the same way. I hate to see animals being harmed.
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 05:53 pm:   

The slaughtering of the ox (or whatever the animal is called) is there for a number of reasons. First, it connotes the slaughter of the sacred bull, as explained in Frazer's The Golden Bough, one of the books we catch a glimpse of in Kurt's study. Kurtz must atone for the sins of the rest of his tribe, i.e. the army. Second, it shows that Willard has become as primitive in his thinking as the tribesmen outside, and sure enough, once Kurtz is killed, he is welcomed as their new god, another ancient ritual described in Frazer's book.
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 06:32 pm:   

It's a perfectly appropriate moment in the story and I don't object to it having been filmed, as it was happening anyway. (I would have a problem with the ox being killed FOR the film.) It's just more than I can actually watch. I even have a hard time with the animals screaming at the end of WICKER MAN, though I've been reassured none were actually harmed making the film.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 06:40 pm:   

Does anyone else hate watching now all those westerns, old and recent, where they do that thing with the horses, making them fall violently during shoot-outs, etc.? Uck. I hate it. Those poor animals....

Nietzche finally snapped in a public street, watching a horse being whipped - from that moment until his death, he was no longer sane. I get that.
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John (John)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 09:51 pm:   

You might struggle with the start of Peckinpah's Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, which if I remember right starts with them blowing the heads off of what look like very live chickens...

In fact, I remember a bit of live scorpion cruelty at the start of The Wild Bunch too.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 10:53 pm:   

'What they do to that turtle alone, though - it's horrendous'

I agree. A nasty film. I turned it off the first time after that scene. Then watched the film through later. A nasty thing. Did not enjoy it at all. An athropological nightmare.

Also not a fan of the Friday the 13th pictures. I went to see the Freddy Vs Jason crapfest in theatres. Pretty ridiculous. I did like the opening scene though, with the girl swimming in the water at the very beginning- but thats all I remember.

'where they do that thing with the horses, making them fall violently during shoot-outs, etc.? Uck. I hate it. Those poor animals....'

Yeah really. Also stunt men get hurt badly as well during some of those takes. I mean you can sometimes see that they don't land properly...
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 11:11 pm:   

Craig - I onl heard that story about Nietzche this year, and was with him completely. I have a sick gerbil at the moment and am ill worrying about it. And the winter - I actually wince when I think of the animals living out in it. I remember once picking a snail up from the middle of a road and putting it in some bushes; suddenly this little girl ran from out of a school gate and just hugged me really tightly. Never met her in my life, but how moving it was, that moment. I'll always remember it.
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Craig (Craig)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 67.116.103.241
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 04:32 am:   

You know Tony, a radio talk-show host out here in the States made a poignant point: he said the older he got, the less empathy/sympathy he felt for his fellow human beings, and the more empathy/sympathy - hell, pathos: outpourings of emotion - for even the smallest of God's creatures, like houseflies. That resonated with me... though don't get me wrong, the plight of my fellow humans is far too often a too pitiable thing....

(I won't say who this radio host was, or chances are, anyone who's heard of him, you'd be aghast, and dismiss what he said out of hand. )
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.242.137
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 07:23 am:   

Hey Niki! Look!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bsRbqpiqkKU

Let's go see it together!!!
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
Username: Niki

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.25.221.13
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 09:05 am:   

Nothing says "date movie" like a 3-D ride to hell...

Hooray - fabulous!
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
Username: Niki

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.25.221.13
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 11:39 am:   

Here's the ballad with scenes from the original:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yNKaYV45Klk
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 12:03 pm:   

Niki, the old Region 1 MBV is the censored theatrical cut. But I don't think they're actually restoring the cuts on the new DVD - just adding them as extras, like the monkey/cat episode of Cronenberg's Fly.

I rather think that for La Regle du Jeu Renoir simply filmed an actual hunt (like the killing of the buffaloes in The Last Hunt). These days horses are trained to fall - in the past they were often simply tripped. I certainly don't approve of that, but equally I think there's no need for the BBFC to cut such scenes from old films. The most absurd recent case involved two shots of falling horses that they cut from Nicholas Ray's The True Story of Jesse James (1957), which was in fact footage from a 1939 film!
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
Username: Simon_b

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 86.24.165.182
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 12:23 pm:   

'The Ballad Of Harry Warden'- classic. Another reason I must learn to play guitar.
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.70.124.44
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 12:41 pm:   

No need to cut at all - it is representational of the time it was made. A little like censoring history.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.44.101.224
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 01:14 pm:   

There's probably more info on MBV here than you will ever need;
http://www.terrortrap.com/interviews/georgemihalka/
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
Username: Niki

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.25.221.26
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 04:39 pm:   

Thanks for that, Tony! And thanks, Ramsey, for warning me that I have an inferior, censored copy. Grrr... Why oh why do they have to cut stuff? It's just so silly and pointless.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.254.144
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:05 pm:   

And note the voice-over?... The late great Don LaFontaine, who died back in August - this one for MBV must have been one of the last ones he did. Thank god, it just makes that trailer all the more betterer....

Thanks for that link, Tony. And I'll take the cuts as extras, deleted footage, over not having them at all....
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.44.101.224
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:33 pm:   

What gets me is that it seems some care went into this movie, which I haven't seen.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.44.101.224
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:35 pm:   

Scroll down to 'video releases'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Bloody_Valentine_(film)
Then cheer.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.254.144
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:41 pm:   

"100% uncut" - YEAH!!!!
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 09:48 am:   

Frank's brief but succinct appraisal of Friday 13th follows: utter shite. As will be the next one regardless of what appears to be on offer in the trailer.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 02:00 pm:   

Craig - Don't want to keep doing this and agreeing with you but...'why a god-flung meteor hasn't struck earth a long time ago'...I think that a lot, mate. Then I remember I'm in the majority of those deemed lucky. Only 25% of the planet has running water and electricity and only 1% has a computer. It makes you cringe with shame and at the same time makes you wish for the aforementioned rock from outer space.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.234.208
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 03:10 pm:   

Only 25% of the planet has running water and electricity and only 1% has a computer....

Well, that makes sense: more computers would hardly help those with no electricity.

So does this mean only about 1% of the world's population is getting internet spam?

There are bright sides....
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.44.101.224
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 11:37 am:   

?

Oh dear. I've just requested the Friday 13th box set for xmas!
Better take it back...
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 12:20 pm:   

Looks as if My Bloody Valentine will be fully restored after all:

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=8926

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