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Des (Des)
Username: Des
Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 86.145.36.225
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 11:49 am: | |
Those submitting stories to CERN ZOO anthology should either pay attention to or ignore; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7766334.stm |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 02:10 pm: | |
Been following this, particularly the last six months of course. The forces that these scientists are dealing with are awesome. Compare it to scientists ignoring warnings when the first atom bomb was detonated- some people thought that a nuclear explosion could ignite the earth's atmosphere- they rolled the dice. Same thing here really- even though the chances for disaster are indeed very small- though they would be catastrophic and it is impossible to imagine. Makes you think though- with all the carefull planning-then this happens. The conditions that they are trying to recreate occur all the time naturally, however mathematically, I think it is ignorant to suggest that the whole enterprise is without danger of any sort. Some people think the world will collapse the first time the collider actually starts hurling stuff around its loop- thing is, weird stuff could happen the week after that, in a month, in five years time when the machine is not novelty and not in the headlines any longer-- But about bloody time humanity is pushing forwards- faster computers and nicer cellphones just won't cut it. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 02:59 pm: | |
Brown trousers time, then? |
Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
Username: Jamie
Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 192.26.212.72
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 03:36 pm: | |
The way I see it, if there is any Cern-related disaster, it will likely be on such a large scale that I won't notice it because I'll be busy being dead. |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 05:56 pm: | |
Frank: Brown trousers time, then? Jamie: ''The way I see it, if there is any Cern-related disaster, it will likely be on such a large scale that I won't notice it because I'll be busy being dead'' Actually the BBC made a documentary I believe- can't remember where I saw it- hypothetically showing how it would happen. Basically, depending on where you are in the world- you would have anything from 1 to 15 hours before the complete collapse. For example- if you were in New York City say- you would be able to see a funnel reaching for the sky across the atlantic, getting larger and larger, clouds pulling over your head, being sucked towards Europe for 4 or five hours. Cosy huh. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 05:59 pm: | |
Enough time to watch one of the LOTR films then. that's nice |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 06:03 pm: | |
Party like it's 1999 |
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.21.23.129
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 09:52 pm: | |
Switzerland isn't too far from here, so I would be one of the first to go through - what, a black hole? Except somehow I don't believe some disaster like that will happen. |
Joel (Joel) Username: Joel
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 91.110.167.144
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 09:53 pm: | |
Those predicting CERN-triggered catastrophes are presumably hoping to be acclaimed as CERN-dissing critics. |
Jamie Rosen (Jamie)
Username: Jamie
Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 192.26.212.72
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 11:02 pm: | |
Actually the BBC made a documentary I believe- can't remember where I saw it- hypothetically showing how it would happen. Basically, depending on where you are in the world- you would have anything from 1 to 15 hours before the complete collapse. For example- if you were in New York City say- you would be able to see a funnel reaching for the sky across the atlantic, getting larger and larger, clouds pulling over your head, being sucked towards Europe for 4 or five hours. Cosy huh. Well that's disappointing. I was picturing something more like the sudden supplanting of our reality with another. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 09:54 am: | |
'I'll be busy being dead'...nearly dropped a boiling cup of tea down my right trouser leg...not good when you have a class of FCE adults awaiting superior teaching instructions (: And yes, wouldn't it be great if our reality was supplanted with another, maybe then I'd be able to make sense of everything. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 09:55 am: | |
Karim - are you saying Europe would go first? Oh, it would, wouldn't it, considering the geographical location of all those pesky scientists running around underground. It's at times like these that you need Nicholas Cage. |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 12:01 pm: | |
I'm afraid so. It would be a very short and intense party- no time to buy paper hats. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 01:07 pm: | |
Perhaps foil hats? They might help deflect the thingy mejiggy...technobabble to you innocents. |
Joel (Joel) Username: Joel
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 91.110.236.141
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 05:14 pm: | |
I remember once having a conversation with a fellow weird fiction fan about whether the four-minute warning would allow time to re-read 'The Music Of Erich Zann'. We both thought not quite, though a quick read through 'The Hound' might be possible. Which is rather sad, but nowhere near as sad as the conversation itself. |
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.21.23.116
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 06:29 pm: | |
I think four minutes would be enough to read at least two poems from the Fungi from Yuggoth cycle. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 11:47 am: | |
Four minutes would be enough to realise nuclear obliteration would be a sight better than the omnibus edition of Eastenders. |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 01:29 am: | |
I've been listening to an audiobook recording of Bill Bryson's excellent book 'A Brief History of Nearly Everything.' In one section he writes about catastrophic meteorites- and how everyone on the earth would be able to see one approaching perhaps with several weeks notice. (oh and forget the Armageddon film- shoot nukes at a metorite is like using a pea shooter to stop an approaching train) Some party would ensue- or you would be able to do some serious reading. The four minutes maybe is better. Bryson does also mention that a similar tunnel like the one at CERN had been planned in Texas- twice as large. As he mentions, they stopped digging after 5 years- leaving 3 or 4 very dissapointed Texan towns and a big hole in the ground. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 09:35 am: | |
Believe it or not an asteroid in 2029 will pass so close to the earth, it will pass beneath some satellite relay path systems. Contingency plans have already been drawn up for a two-manned probe to be sent up to 'off-put' the asteroid, i.e. changing its trajectory, thus avoiding earth. Only problem...nobody has even considered budgeting for the two-manned probe; Clinton and Bush were both informed of this and did nothing. If the asteroid doesn't hit, it'll come back around in 2036 for another try. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 09:39 am: | |
I'm not making this up. And don't ask why it hasn't been in the news. It was an independent documentary in which the world's top scientists were asked what they believed to be the problems facing humanity's continued suvival. No 1: Environmental pollution, No 2: Nuclear war NO 3,4,5,6, I can't remember, but they were a mixture of the asteroid, wandering black holes, etc. Very interesting, awe inducing to the point of bowel eruption...ermm...BOWEL ERUPTION...my vote for best new thrash metal combo. |
Frank (Frank) Username: Frank
Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 07:18 pm: | |
Glad to see everybody shares my sense of mounting panic at such a possible catastrophic event. (Where does Frank get such information? He's a bit of a weird one that fella). |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:33 am: | |
Yeah heard about that Frank. Apparently we are only keeping watch over a few percent of the skies-- in case something rather faster should happen to come in the path of the earth. Everyone is errecting missile defense systems here on earth instead of using resources for space. I think also it was on the news these last couple of days that Scientists discovered a massive black hole out there. |
Karim Ghahwagi (Karim) Username: Karim
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 80.167.124.223
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:37 am: | |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7774287.stm |
Des (Des) Username: Des
Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 86.169.221.108
| Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 05:41 pm: | |
Grim Blogger: http://grimreviews.blogspot.com/2010/12/weird-news-cern-proof-of-extra.html |