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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   

Does anyone know of a publication which accepts stories between 10,000 - 13,000 words. I have a story I can't place on account that it is 13,000 words long. I've editied down from 18,000, but as far as I'm concerened, that's it. I've scoured Ralan and other sites but to no avail.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.242.126
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 03:04 pm:   

Haven't a clue, mate, but I do sympathise. I've just written a 14,000-word career-best novelette that's sitting gathering dust on my hard drive...
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 03:08 pm:   

Try PS, Frank, if it's science fiction or fantasy or horror.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.145.36.225
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 03:08 pm:   

Cern Zoo (Nemonymous 9)
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 03:12 pm:   

Ramsey - cheers governor.

Des - Will do, mate.

Zed - I've still got 46,000 words of a fifth draft of Leaving The Room to shift. Started as a short story and turned into a novelette, now awaiting instructions to become a novel. It's a completely different 'thing' in terms of plot and style. It got so bogged down in detail (near sci-fi - from a technophobe), that I started swimming in the most minor of near furture possibilties that I ended up resembling Brady in Michael Chabon's wonderous Wonder Boys. Minus the herbs of course.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.242.126
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 04:48 pm:   

PS are closed to unsolicited submissions, Fran - Pete told me last week. :-(

Cern Zoo is certainly a great market...
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 05:43 pm:   

Zed - thanks for the info, mate. I've never heard of Cern Zoo, but I'll give it a go. My story might not be the kind of thing they're looking for. Are they...speculative, straight out horror or a wonderful mixture of both?
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.167.124.223
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 06:18 pm:   

Are short story markets really so scarce nowadays?

Zed- is there really nowhere to place your novelette!!! I can't even imagine then the toughnesses out there for unpublished authors finding homes for novelettes say!
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.145.36.225
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 06:25 pm:   

Cern Zoo is mine, Frank. I look forward to your submission:
http://weirdmonger.blog-city.com/cerne_zoo__guidelines.htm

1p per word up to a max of £100
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Simon Strantzas (Nomis)
Username: Nomis

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 38.113.181.169
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 07:04 pm:   

The only way one can guarantee the most opportunities for placing a story is to keep to the 2-3K range. Anything more and your options start to close in.

If someone were to ask me, I'd tell a new writer to try and keep to that range as much as possible until he or she published enough work that the idea of writing something that won't get published for a while isn't a big deal. I've written stories that are long enough that I know they won't get published for a while, maybe a long while, but it doesn't bother me anymore. I'm happy to write it and set it aside until the right opportunity presents itself. After all, you're better off holding out for the right market than publishing for the sake of being published. Not all new writers get that, so desperate are they to see their name in print.

(I mean the above in general, not specifically to Frank)
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 07:13 pm:   

Simon - I agree, mate. Wise words. But at 17 stories I thought it might be good to try getting one of the bulkier ones out.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 07:15 pm:   

Des - ah, great mate. No disrepect intended. Hope you don't gag on the unintentional hilarity of my offering.
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Simon Strantzas (Nomis)
Username: Nomis

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 38.113.181.169
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 07:20 pm:   

Oh, I know well one can't always control the muse, and saying "only write within 2-3K words" is like saying, "don't let your children grow more than an inch a day". Some things you can't control.

By all means try and shop your story. You might as well! But, if the you can't find a place for it you like right away, don't feel bad about sitting on it. A novella makes a great start to a collection, after all.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 07:33 pm:   

Simon - I have always been guilty of overwriting though. It's taken years to keep the word count under the five thousand mark. Anyhow, I still love it, the writing, the act.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.189.139
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 09:05 pm:   

Around 15,000 words is a tricky length because it's too short to be a novella but too long for most short story outlets. Watch out for anthologies, and some publishers bring out short chapbooks – Richard mentioned Burning Effigy Press recently.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 09:45 am:   

Joel - cheers, pal.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 01:53 pm:   

Des - just submitted with accompanying email. Cheers. Thanks for the invitation. But please, no hate letters or threatening emails in response to my work
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.145.36.225
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   

Not received it yet, Frank, at either email address. Perhaps you should send it again and please don't assume I've got it unless I send back a specific acknowledgement. (I look forward to reading it in due course).
des
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.145.36.225
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 11:39 pm:   

Still not received your submission, Frank, unless you've submitted with another name.
des
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 11:43 am:   

Des - strange. I posted it Saturday evening. Can you give me the address again?
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.145.36.225
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 12:02 pm:   

dflewis48@hotmail.com AND bfitzworth@yahoo.co.uk

I don't think I received it at either.
des
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 83.98.9.4
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 12:16 pm:   

he keeps rejecting my stuff, no matter how much i offer to bribe him.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 83.98.9.4
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 12:16 pm:   

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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 01:06 pm:   

Weber - difference is mate I know where he lives.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 01:06 pm:   

Des - those are the addresses I posted to. Will try again in a second. Cheers and many thanks.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 01:17 pm:   

Des - just posted them, mate. I checked the sent register and my last email to you was there. No idea what happened. In hindsight you might wish they'd stayed lost.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.145.36.225
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 02:04 pm:   

Go it now, Frank, thanks.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 09:23 am:   

Cheers, Des. Let me know when the bleeding stops. Don't worry, tis natural when reading my stuff.

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