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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
Username: Giancarlo

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 85.116.228.3
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 07:52 am:   

I have these Italian horror movies in mind, I don't know about their possible English titles, maybe someone can help...
-LA MASCHERA DEL DEMONIO (Mario Bava, this is BLACK SUNDAY, I suppose, the one about the Russian witch re-enfleshing herself);
-I TRE VOLTI DELLA PAURA (M.Bava, a trilogy starring Boris Karloff as the Russian vampire in the center piece...BLACK SABBATH?)
-OPERAZIONE PAURA (M.Bava...a ghostly female child haunting a village, her ominous presence announced by a dancing red ball. The main character -Giacomo Rossi Stuart- running after himself in the castle corridor...is this KILL, BABY, KILL?)
-LA FRUSTA E IL CORPO (M.Bava...C. Lee's ghost going perverse over Daliah Lavi ambiguously desiring body: madness or reality? I think both)
-GLI ORRORI DEL CASTELLO DI NORIMBERGA (M. Bava...the cruel Baron rising from the dead because of some young dolts playing with an ancient black magic tome...is that RED BARON?)
-IL ROSSO SEGNO DELLA FOLLIA (M.Bava...a psychotic male fetishist/killer enjoying dressing as a bride when bashing women by a hatchet)
There are so many, I'll go on with the thread a little at a time. Bye.
Giancarlo
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.228.211
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 08:38 am:   

So you have these Italian horror movies in mind... and?... am I missing something?...
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.217.144
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 09:24 am:   

What are their English-language release titles, Craig? (Sorry, I can't help.)
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 09:50 am:   

Black Sunday

Black Sabbath

Kill Baby Kill

????

Baron Blood

Hatchet for a Honeymoon
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
Username: Simon_b

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 86.24.165.182
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 09:52 am:   

Should've known. For Italian 'orror films, Zed's yer man.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 09:54 am:   

Probert's better than me. :-)
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.163.241.252
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:00 am:   

Probert's better than me. :-)

Possibly, but he's usually off on a killing spree - at least you're here.
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
Username: Giancarlo

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 85.116.228.3
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:19 am:   

Mario Bava, after giving up filming, was Argento's technician for photography. Is it so odd Argento's movies have been getting worse after Mario Bava's departure from the living?
But there was not only Bava in the Italian Horror too short era:
--IL MULINO DELLE DONNE DI PIETRA (MILL OF THE STONE WOMEN, literally, by Giorgio Ferroni: imagine a merry-go-round of women's corpses instead of shiny wooden horses. It's a multiplication of WAX MUSEUM set in early 19th century Holland)
-I LUNGHI CAPELLI DELLA MORTE (THE LONG HAIR OF DEATH, by Antonio Margheriti, set in bergmanian seventh-seal times: medieval witches, creepy resurrections, dungeon tortures and final stake burning not of the witch but as her revenge upon the Signore of the castle)
-DANZA MACABRA (that speaks for itself, by Margheriti again, and Barbara Steele starring -she greatly contributed to many spaghetti horror movies, she was the witch in BLACK SUNDAY, for instance...the story is a bet: will you spend a whole night in the supposed haunted castle? The movie is not domesticated, unnatural love and necrophilia are openly addressed by Italian directors, even if properly stylized)
-L'ORRIBILE SEGRETO DEL DOTTOR HICKOK (THE HORRIBLE SECRETOF DOCTOR....Freda directing, Steele starring: this was hugely scissored by Italian censorship to the point of almost-incomprehensibility. The climax is still a mystery and it seems nobody but the censor has ever seen the flick in its entirety, sort of Italian case of Browning's "FREAKS")
-THE GHOST (a sequel to the previous HICKOK, this time Steele acting the necro-sadist)
The atmosphere of all these movies was great, the colour gorgeous and Hammer-like, though a little more mortiferous. When B&W, they had a Dryer's WAMPYR feeling about them...
More to come.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 129.11.77.197
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:00 am:   

Ah yes, Italian horror - my speciality.

Er, Life Is Good?
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 83.98.9.4
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:09 am:   

I hear Joel's an expert on argento...
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.253.174.81
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:14 am:   

LA FRUSTRA E IL CORPO is The Whip & The Body.

What's this about a killing spree?
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.21.235.168
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:29 am:   

I'm still looking for LA LAMA NEL CORPO. Giancarlo, do you happen to know whether this has been released on dvd?
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.5.6.125
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 04:33 pm:   

Ah... thanks, Joel.

And don't forget the lush and creepy TERRORE NELLO SPAZIO.
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
Username: Giancarlo

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 85.116.228.3
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 08:10 am:   

TERRORE NELLO SPAZIO was released as PLANET OF VAMPIRES, or so I do believe.
THE WHIP AND THE BODY was a sadistic fantasy filmed in lurid Bava colours: ambiguity, whether ghost or madness, is never solved, in really Freudian uncanniness. It was released in USA as WHAT!, not to be confused with a similarly titled comically surreal Polanski pic sporting M. Mastroianni and Sydney Rome.
As for Craig's question, LA LAMA NEL CORPO DVD version was released as MURDER CLINIC, it should be available somewhere on the net for buying online.
There is another Bava around, LISA AND THE DEVIL, working more as a nightmare than a story, that's why there were exorcism sequences, not in the original, added to make it, apparently, more acceptable to unsubtle watchers. It sports Telly Savalas as the Devil, complete with Kojak's lollipop...I don't know if it was after or before he played the TV police character.
And what about Pupi Avati? LA CASA DALLE FINESTRE CHE RIDONO....ZEDER...IL NASCONDIGLIO (THE HIDEOUT.) I didn't like the latter but I have something to say about the former two...in time. Work's calling. Ciao
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.163.241.252
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 09:29 am:   

Watched PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES last night...
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.203.130.124
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 11:39 am:   

PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES isn't half bad - especially the giant alien spaceship that inspired ALIEN.

I think I've mentioned on here before that I actually prefer HOUSE OF EXORCISM to LISA AND THE DEVIL. And it was made before Kojak.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 11:57 am:   

It was the film where Telly Savalas came up with the trademark lollipop - he was trying to give up smoking and sucked lollies instead.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.74.221.2
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 12:14 pm:   

Which works.
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Giancarlo (Giancarlo)
Username: Giancarlo

Registered: 11-2008
Posted From: 85.116.228.3
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:06 pm:   

I actually like the EXORCISM version of LISA AND THE DEVIL as well but I can't say I prefer it. The added scenes were meant for commercial purposes and they work to make it a little less tediously experimental. They were outside the scope of Bava's conception of the pic, he even refused to accept the EXORCISM version as his own. Adding scenes came from the evaluation of unsubtle movie-distributors projecting themselves into paying watchers, making it sort of a second movie which one can be subtle enough to like as well or even more...Jung's "personal equation" applies to movie lovers too.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.250.158
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 05:17 pm:   

Did I miss you mentioning Al 33 di Via Orologio fa Sempre Freddo?... with the strangely-attractive (i.e., strange that she is) Daria Niccolodi?...

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