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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 01:10 am:   

This dvd set any good? I've not seen a single film by him but have heard they are fun. Even Halliwell likes them.
Just bought them anyway, btw.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 09:22 am:   

Lord Probert and I think it's an excellent set. "Frightmare" is by far the best film, but the others each have something worthwhile going on.

The Norman J. Warren set is worth a punt, too.
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:44 am:   

Yes! Yes! FRIGHTMARE is superb, with HOUSE OF WHIPCORD a close second, HOUSE OF MORTAL SIN a guilty pleasure of a third, and THE COMEBACK a somewhat misfiring but gory & crazy fourth.

I'd forget about DIE SCREAMING MARIANNE, though.
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Albie (Albie)
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 11:50 am:   

I love Frightmare.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 01:47 pm:   

I'm with you, Probert, I'm with you.

Albs - Frightmare is awseome, isn't it? The film has that grimy 1970s British feel to it that simply cannot be replicated. I'd even say it's one of my favourite Brit horror films.
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Albie (Albie)
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 02:12 pm:   

My first knowledge of it was actually buying it and watching it, so it seemed to have come from nowhere.

Obscurity doesn't have to be a disability. Who knows what's waiting out there, down side streets where only lorries go.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 02:47 pm:   

I haven't got the Pete Walker set - I've been holding out on that one because I didn't really think much of THE COMEBACK, the only Walker film I've seen. I do have the Norman J. Warren coffin box, though. Some good (if occasionally cheesy) stuff there, like SATAN'S SLAVE. I remember seeing INSEMINOID in the eighties at the cinema. Must've been around the same time XTRO came out, maybe a bit earlier - anyone remember that one?
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 02:59 am:   

Huw you KNOW Zed and I are going to be able to remember both INSEMINOID & XTRO, both examples of early 80s ultra sleazy/gory Brit-SF/horror, one with Judy Geeson, the other with Maryam d'Abo, both with squeaky burpy soundtracks (I have them on vinyl - I don't think either have made it to CD), both with creaky, rubbery, sometimes jaw-dropping effects, both with a really unpleasant attitudue to humankind in general and women in particular.

My favourite Warren movie is TERROR - right from the title sequence you know you're watching something that's not quite right in the head
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Albie (Albie)
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Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 12:38 pm:   

I am XTRO. INSEMINOID i am NOT.
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Griff (Griff)
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Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 02:11 pm:   

With your alarming taste in movies, JPL...

Tell/reassure me you're not a psychiatrist!
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 05:57 pm:   

No Griff I'm certainly not a psychiatrist!
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 04:17 pm:   

Yah! Made the daft mistake of opening this (my 'coffin') in the street on the way back from the post office and had about three of the discs tumble to the path! Don't these guys ever pop them on the little thingies properly?

Right; which to watch first? Or should I watch them in order?
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 05:49 pm:   

Tony - I'd suggest you ignore DIE SCREAMING, then go through them in order : WHIPCORD, FRIGHTMARE, MORTAL SIN, COMEBACK.

And let us know what you thought!
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Joel (Joel)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:05 pm:   

Hi John. Here's a bit of medical news for you. The current issue of CLINICA tells us that, according to a new report, the level of colorectal screening is "too low in Germany". They don't say whether this is due to patients being too tall.
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:11 pm:   

I shall pass it on
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:17 pm:   

Nobody put the clock back on the RCMB!
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 10:39 am:   

Just watched Comeback - it was the first disc to the right. I plan to end on Frightmare because it's meant to be the best.
SPOILER?
Comeback was great fun. I loved the scary scream 'Compo' made whenever he attacked, and actually got frightened of that apartment and the empty building beneath - it was even creepier than the mansion. What a lovely feel this film had, and what lovely use of sound. It was daft in places obviously but on the whole it held me, got my imagination stirred up a bit. And there was some lovely shots, too; I liked the picnic at dover for instance, with the cliffs in the background. It just felt so rich for what was a cheapy.
And...yes, it was creepy, and scary, and sad.
(and wasn't Pamela Stephenson gorgeous! I'd no idea!)
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 10:42 am:   

I couldn't agree more, Tony. In fact the entire Walker box set is grand!
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 10:46 am:   

And was it me or were those shots of the decaying body strangely haunting in a way not intended? The idea of that body being there all that time, in that empty place. It was interesting to see such lingering on a victim. It felt like a story in itself.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 10:48 am:   

What a lovely flavour the film had. Guy Ritchie, even The Orphanage person and indeed anyone could learn from these films what dread is and atmosphere.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 11:13 am:   

"The idea of that body being there all that time, in that empty place."

God, yes. That really affected me in a way I didn't expect. I'm not sure if it really was that unintentional - Walker's a clever director.

The mood of these things is great - seddy 1970s urban gothic. Strangely dated now, yet still resonant.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 11:13 am:   

seddy? I meant seedy, of course.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 11:16 am:   

But you'd go back in time and it would feel like that. My memory of the time is like these films. The sense of going back to those days is as disturbing as that body. Shit! You go back in time and find the place littered with corpses! Your time travel has somehow killed everyone, or those past selves have stopped being able to live! Jeezuz!!!

Ugh - those flies falling out of the keyhole were a lovely, horrible touch. In't horror great?
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 11:22 am:   

This feels like a story, or a book even.
Here we go again...
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 01:38 pm:   

Tony I'm delighted you liked COMEBACK (I could guess Zed does). I think the opening murder is masterly and still makes me cringe - even the way the killer's hand shakes as they go to pick up the sickle(for some reason the hand being lopped off I find really horrible) and yes the returns to the flat and the rotting corpse are just horrible for all sorts of reasons. This one gets better with time I think.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 01:50 pm:   

Oh, I did. And like all interesting films it's lingered in my mind.
That walled-up bedroom was like something from Texas Chainsaw, wasn't it? And I hated to think of the girl moving around the mansion on her own, like some ancient zombie, summoning all her strength and only making the odd visit.
Not that I thought she was one, you understand.
Imagine - a zombie not dying till it's dust.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 02:46 pm:   

I think the timeline has been changed around me. I have literally no idea what you're all talking about.

And why's the sky full of Zeppelins now?
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Albie (Albie)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 05:20 pm:   

And why did I wake up this morning, in a pent house of a tower block, with billions of pounds in a bank account and an army of secret killer robots demanding instructions on whom to wipe out next?
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 01:12 pm:   

I watched The Comeback last night for the first time in nearly thirty years, and I was surprised that I didn't hate it. It has its problems, but there are some pretty good scenes. I liked the final confrontation, and just how vicious the 'housekeepers' were. "You young pop stars with your vile contortions and lewd words" (or something - I'm paraphrasing) - I found that simultaneously hilarious and horrifying, somehow.

I still haven't seen the other films in the coffin box set. I've got the Norman J. Warren one to work my way through as well (I saw Inseminoid when it was released at the cinema, but I don't think I've seen the others). The Amicus coffin is nice too.

I saw Bloodbath at the House of Death again recently, too. Ahem...
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   

Huw - watch Warren's PREY. It's extraordinary.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 05:33 pm:   

Will do, Zed. I'm going to watch one or two every night, along with some other oldies by Bava and de Ossorio and the like - good Halloween viewing!
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 10:16 pm:   

PREY is great.

I'm going to be watching the Universal DRACULA series (Dracula, D's Daughter, Son of and House of)
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 09:02 am:   

Folks - let me know when you're watching these things. I haven't watched my Coffin or the Dracs for decades, and it's be nice watching them with others.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 11:32 am:   

I'd be up for that too. It's more fun to watch them 'together', even if some of us are thousands of miles away.

If anyone has one in mind to watch together, just say the word. ;-)
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 12:00 pm:   

Die Screaming Marianne, stinky as reputed to be, was next on my list (building up to Frightmare you understand!), with Dracula's Daughter next (saw Drac recently). Either of those ok?
I LOVE watching 'together'. It actually feels better, the movies feel more 'alive'. Either tonight?
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 01:00 pm:   

Either of those is fine with me, Tony!

Would anyone else like to join in? Lord P mentioned he was planning on watching Dracula's Daughter...
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 02:46 pm:   

I still have literally no idea what you're all talking about.

Romero's making a new horror film with underwater zombies. Why aren't people running onto the streets to talk about it?
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 07:53 pm:   

Right - is the Marianne film OK? And Dracula's Daughter tomorrow?
Proto; these movies are by a chap from the seventies, Pete Walker. He made a bunch of fun, scary horror movies. I haven't seen any apart from The Comeback, so am in no position to judge yet.
As for Romero; this is pretty exciting. But how will the tone change? Land and Diary could have been made by two different people...
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 09:01 pm:   

Thanks for clearing that up.
And you are..?

----

At least two of the cast from LAND are going to be in it -- the creep militia chap who was also had a great cameo in DIARY and the kid from LAND. I hear DIARY didn't make much money (but it's early days).

This could be the poster for the new one:

http://images.google.ie/images?q=isle%20of%20the%20dead&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=or g.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 10:25 pm:   

I can't watch Marianne again, but Dracula's Daughter's on the menu! I'll watch it again tomorrow!
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 07:56 am:   

Okay then - Marianne tonight, and Drac's Daughter tomorrow. 'Twill be fun...
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 05:20 pm:   

Just tried to watch Die Screaming Marianne, and I'm sorry, but I just can't. It's ghastly, hideous. I made it about twenty minutes or so and I felt like gouging my eyes out.

Dracula's Daughter next!
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 08:42 pm:   

Huw - as always your taste corresponds with my own. In fact I remember being almost bored to death by Marianne when I was about 12 and couldn't understand why World of Horror mag rated this Walker chap. But then Frightmare has never been shown on the telly.

Let me know what you think of D's Daughter, though.

Maybe we should start a viewing thread alongside the reading thread.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 11:57 pm:   

Ha!
Just tried to watch Die Screaming Marianne, and I'm sorry, but I just can't.
I made it about twenty minutes or so.

:-)

I didn't find it such a bad film, just un-gripping.

Just watched Dracula's Daughter. A bit too jokey, didn't sit right with the serious, melancholy undercurrents that have been played up by some admirers. Some lovely photography in places, and one strange scene with the girl brought in off the streets to 'model' (that girl was lovely, and such an erotic scene it was). It's odd, but the material might have fared better in Lewton's hands.
Next...?
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 11:59 pm:   

Proto - that painting you posted a link to, do you know the story of it? It was painted at the request of a young widow woman, who asked the artist for a picture 'to dream by'. I love that pic, and the story, and the woman for just using such words and asking for such a thing.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:36 am:   

Thanks for that. I didn't know that. I've known I first say that pic for 13 years ago on the cover of a Rachmaninov from Naxos. I don't ordinarily care for Rachmaninov, but this piece on this CD is amazing:

http://www.classicsonline.com/images/cds/550583.gif
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 12:37 am:   

Let's try that again.

Thanks for that. I didn't know that. I first saw that pic for 13 years ago on the cover of a Rachmaninov from Naxos. I don't ordinarily care for Rachmaninov, but this piece on this CD is amazing:

http://www.classicsonline.com/images/cds/550583.gif
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 11:56 am:   

As soon as the title sequence began on Die Screaming Marianne I thought to myself "I bet Quentin Tarantino would love this" - anyone know if he's ever mentioned this film, or others by Pete Walker? I wouldn't be surprised if QT was influenced or inspired by them in some way. They do seem quite 'grindhousey'.

Tony, I agree with you about Dracula's Daughter. It had some nice little atmospheric touches - I love those old sets they used back in those days.

Anyone seen The Unseen, an early eighties film starring Barbara Bach?
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 01:24 pm:   

Dracula's Daughter is just weird when I think about it. I find it hard to believe that the creatives at Universal couldn't have thought of a way to bring Lugosi back to life, but instead we get this rather strange, melancholy (and very atmospheric for the first half and hour or so) sequel that make you wonder what they were thinking of. I agree that Val Lewton may have done a better job but Lambert Hillyer could have made it much worse than it is. I also agree that some of it is erotic. Interesting film.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 02:10 pm:   

Just watched The Unseen, and apart from a moderately suspenseful (but cliche-riddled) last twenty minutes, I'd advise that it remain as the title suggests - unseen.

Lord P, I received my It/The Shuttered Room DVD today. I also have the second Fox Horror box set and the 2-disc 4-film Hammer set ready to watch. I don't know where to start...

Tony, let us know if you are planning to watch another of the coffin box or old Universal films...
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 04:25 pm:   

Huw - I haven't seen The Unseen but has it got a Michael J Lewis score? I think it's on my 25 Years of Michael J Lewis double CD.

Where is my bloody Hammer set I want to know??

I'm planning on watching Son of Dracula next if anyone's interested as I've not seen it since I was 13.

And then----

Island of Lost Souls (1932)

Which I've never seen. I'm really getting back into these b&w movies. I think I need to watch Mad Love & Dr X again as well.

And the first 20 minutes of the original Lugosi Dracula! Did Tod Browning go home after that? It's amazing - an absolutely unparalleled vision of a rotting scary castle and its ghoulishly strange inhabitants. I could watch it over and over again.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 08:27 pm:   

Island of Lost Souls is brilliant.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 11:16 pm:   

OK - I've just done an Alucard double bill:

Son of Dracula (1943)

Another odd Universal effort with chunky Lon Chaney Jr as the count, and obvious film noir enthusiast Robert Siodmak as director. It even turns into a 'kill my husband who I don't really love' plot halfway through! Despite the odd atmospheric scene in the swamps I can't see myself watching this again anytime soon. It did however make me think seriously about how the worst of Hammer might rack up against the more tedious Universal efforts, which led me to rewatch:

Dracula AD 1972

Revisiting this for the first time in a few years all I can say is that if the BBC made anything half as good as the pretitles sequence it would be the best thing on telly all year. Add in Caroline Munro & Stephanie Beacham's considerable attributes, a goodly dollop of blood slopped around, and a music score that's so over the top it's cool this could almost work today as a 'Life On Mars Does Horror'. I almost felt guilty for enjoying this so much, once again confirming that I prefer cheesy 1970s horror crap to Siodmak-directed noirish atmosphere. Bloody great - especially the daft death of Johnny Alucard, some interesting high angle shots in the church during the ritual, and the chase at the end.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 08:52 am:   

John, The Unseen does indeed have a Michael J. Lewis score.

I don't think I've ever seen Island of Lost Souls - it's one of those 'legendary' old films that I've always wanted to see, but have never had the chance to. I've just ordered the DVD (dunno about the quality, but it's the only one I could find).

John, out of curiosity, which Dracula (Universal, Hammer, and other) films would you rate as the very best?
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 11:09 am:   

Really, I had to turn off Marianne, too.
What next Huw? If you fancy, that is.

For myself, the Dracula that felt the most right was the Louis Jordan version, at least at the time. Seriously I don't think the films have clicked, as much as I enjoy the efforts.

I wanna be called Johnny Alucard!
And isn't this the film where Helsing writes ALUCARD - DRACULA next to each other and draws little lines leading to reversed letters?
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 01:36 pm:   

>>>Where is my bloody Hammer set I want to know??

You can normally get a good hammer set in Woolworths, they even have screwdrivers and spanners sometimes.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 03:06 pm:   

Good one, Weber. You been taking lessons from Joel? ;-)

Tony, I'm up for another film watch if you are - how about Frightmare or Prey, or another of the old Universals?

I haven't seen that version of Dracula yet, though I bought the DVD some time ago. I'll probably watch it over Halloween, now that you've recommended it!
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 09:19 pm:   

Huw - I think my favourite Dracula doesn't exist because it's a mixture of the opening of the 1931 version, the climax of the 1958 Hammer version, the delicious longeurs of Polanski's FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS, Judi Bowker and Susan Penhaligon from the Philip Saville BBC version and absolutely nothing from the Coppola version.

Anyway, tonight's double bill was:

ISLAND OF LOST SOULS (1933)

Never seen this and an utter classic, with an exemplary performance by Charles Laughton (who weirdly reminds me of Ricky Gervais in this) and a great ending.

THE COMEBACK

To bring us back on thread! I liked this more this time around, possibly because I've only seen dodgy VHS copies before. There are some very creepy bits in this, the music is so doom laden I wish I could have a CD of it (and all of Myers' Walker work) and Sheila Keith is just marvellous
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 11:46 pm:   

Huw - Frightmare it is! Tomorrow, if geographically poss?
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 12:44 am:   

"...absolutely nothing from the Coppola version."

Ooh, that's harsh! I've revisited it and though it's less than the sum of its parts, it has some wonderful parts. Look again. The castle looks like an enthroned king. The walls physically, almost imperceptibly, move closer together in one scene.
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Craig (Craig)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 04:30 am:   

Nothing from the Coppola version, John?...

Have I discovered your THE MIST?
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 06:46 am:   

That works for me, Tony. I'm looking forward to this one (especially after Die Screaming Marianne).

Lord P, I think I'd have to agree with you - I like various parts of most of the Dracula films, but I don't think I've seen an ideal version yet. I liked some of the imagery in the Coppola version, but that's about it.

I'm planning to watch the Louis Jourdan version over Halloween, and the Spanish-language version of the Universal original. I'll probably give both Nosferatus another watch as well. I must have about five editions of the Murnau film now! For sheer atmosphere, I think Herzog's version is hard to beat.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 11:08 am:   

Proto - I heard the image was based on this picture (and yes, I saw the figure in it, too);

http://www.victorianweb.org/decadence/painting/kupka/5.html
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 11:18 am:   

Yes! The Comeback's not remotely bad, is it? So much atmosphere (Compo walking round in the bushes etc, helping a tree, the 'hoot' of the attacker, that apartment).
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Allybird (Allybird)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 11:25 am:   

'the delicious longeurs of Polanski's FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS' One of my very favourite films. I get caught up in the fun of it every time.
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Protodroid (Protodroid)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 11:40 am:   

That's the picture, Tony. I also see things in the film that look magical, but might just be mistakes. Surely that shows that the film's sucking me in...
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 11:45 am:   

I quite like the film, it has a nice feel to it for the most part. And it's at the very least not boring. It just feels 'clipped'.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 12:27 pm:   

Well I have a shitty cold now so I shall watch FRIGHTMARE with all of you to cheer myself up.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 12:49 pm:   

Yay!
It'll be my first time. Bit of a legend, this one.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 12:51 pm:   

I bet you find some vague reason not to like it. ;-)
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 12:52 pm:   

Btw, I'll watch it tonight, too, after I've written my daily chapter.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   

We've got a regular little film club going now!

John, hope your cold clears up soon.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 12:58 pm:   

Oy!
9.40? 10.00?
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 12:59 pm:   

Er, that 'Oy!' was for Zed.
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 01:06 pm:   

I'm 7-8 hours ahead of you fellows (it's already dark here), so I'll just watch it as close as possible to your 9-10pm.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 01:12 pm:   

9:30 for me. :-)
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 01:19 pm:   

Huw - that's fine. Psychically I'm with you! :-)
Revised; 9.45? Read to the lads in bed round half past... (good one at the mo, too; The Maze, set in Dorset. I forget the author.)
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 01:20 pm:   

9:45 suits me fine. I'll settle down after a coupel of hours spent writing.
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Martin Roberts (Martin_roberts)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 08:21 pm:   

I'll do my best to join in with Frightmare its ages since I watched this and it will give me am extra reason to crack open the coffin - finally picked this one up a week or so back.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 09:19 pm:   

That's five of us! Officially more than watches ITV at any given time.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 10:18 pm:   

Ok - FRIGHTMARE is go at 9-30

(And then I'm away for the weekend so I'll do my best to get back to the thread on Monday)
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 12:36 am:   

Bugger. I forgot all about this. :-(
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 12:50 am:   

I've just seen it!
Fuck; I preferred Comeback. It was lots of fun but probably I've had it built up in my mind so much by rave reviews from all quarters that it had nothing to do but not quite live up to my expectations. The things I liked are the fact it seemed like a very long public information film made by social services, and Sheila Keith, who is such an odd presence and reminds me very much of Marie's late Mum. Strange kinky moment was the girl getting off on her mum's pitchfork doings (I have a bit of a soft spot for this sort of 'demented woman' thing). But on the whole The Comeback was eerier, which is much more my kind of thing.
One and a half thumbs up.

(And Sir Zed - you're out of the club before you're even in! )
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Martin Roberts (Martin_roberts)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 12:59 am:   

I really enjoyed watching this, more than I did the first time round as I was quite young and probably disappointed in the suggested gore after reading so much about the film. Sheila Keith. I'll have to watch The Comeback soon Tony as I don't recall seeing that particular movie.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 01:07 am:   

I think FRIGHTMARE is simply brilliant. Walker's best film by a country mile.

The themes, performances and tone of the piece are all unique. I've watched the DVD three times since I bought the set last year.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 01:11 am:   

Oh, I'll give it another whirl, certainly. It just wasn't quite the fun people had said it was. Maybe it will become so.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 01:12 am:   

I think Becky off Corrie should be in a Pete Walker film. She's a scrumptious nutter, old 'Becks'.
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Martin Roberts (Martin_roberts)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 09:03 am:   

I seem to have erased the rest of my sentence starting with Shelia Keith... is the star of the movie hands down.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 10:16 am:   

The bits that scared me most were the dream in the train, and Keith saying to that girl 'Just little animals peeking in', then her going nuts. That was really odd.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 10:16 am:   

It was all like a dark version of Harvey, wasn't it?
Now THAT'S how to do remakes!
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Zed (Gary_mc)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 01:11 pm:   

?
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Huw (Huw)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 04:34 pm:   

I enjoyed it. The parts that Tony mentioned are the parts I found most effective, as well. I wouldn't call it any kind of masterpiece, but it's a decent enough little film. It captures the England of the early-mid 1970s well, and I loved that spooky, deserted fairground at the beginning. Reminded me of 'The Companion'.
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Tony (Tony)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 06:32 pm:   

I liked that bit, too.
Harvey, Zed; the woman got twisted by the death of her rabbit, and at one point she talks about it as if it were still around, 'peeking in'. It reminded me of the film Harvey with James Stewart, then I cross-referenced the other thread about remakes, and suggested that Frightmare might be the best remake ever because it was a remake of Harvey.
Exhales loudly.

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