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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 83.98.9.4
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 05:28 pm:   

http://www.artofeurope.com/macneice/mac1.htm
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.155.151.78
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 07:01 pm:   

MacNeice's 'Bagpipe Music' is a real classic. Auden and MacNeice both rock. Why people neglect stuff like that while getting excited about insipid drivel like Betjeman is hard to explain.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.163.170.232
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 06:13 pm:   

I quite enjoy Betjeman's poems.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.238.205
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 10:01 pm:   

But that's not enough. Is it? One can quite enjoy a Spice Girls single or a James Herbert novel or a lukewarm doner kebab. That's never enough.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.238.205
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 10:05 pm:   

Specifically 'Who Do You Think You Are', THE RATS or a small doner in naan bread (with chilli sauce) from the Acocks Green village takeaway on the Warwick Road. In case anyone thinks I'm making empty generalisations.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.163.170.232
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 10:36 pm:   

Specifically, from my side:

A subaltern's love song:
http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/poems/764.html
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.163.170.232
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 10:48 pm:   

Yes, I appreciate Macneice and all manner of things like Wagner and Big Brother.

catholic and eclectic.

I don't think, though, Betjeman is 'insipid drivel'.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.108.13.194
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 12:31 pm:   

Nor do I on reflection. Weak tea with two sugars might have been a better metaphor.
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.21.234.177
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 12:33 pm:   

Don't understimate the power of sugar!
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.108.13.194
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 12:34 pm:   

Des, did you hear that the lady honoured as 'Miss Joan Hunter-Dunne' died last month, at an advanced age? A one-time crush of Betjeman's, apparently. Bless.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.163.170.232
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 12:47 pm:   

Bless, indeed.

('Bliss' is a great story by Katherine Mansfield)
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 01:38 pm:   

So is 'The Little Governess' - quietly terrifying.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.163.170.232
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   

I've just read a truly terrifying story by Elizabeth Bowen (who was influenced by Katherine Mansfield) recently re-discovered and published, called "Just Imagine". It should be a horror classic.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 01:53 pm:   

Do you like Elisabeth Taylor, Des - the short story writer, I mean?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 01:54 pm:   

Where can I find that Bowen tale, then?
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.163.170.232
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 01:57 pm:   

It's in the book I describe on the Elizabeth Bowen thread (Unpublished and Uncollected Stories), ie THE BAZAAR & OTHER STORIES (Edinburgh Unversity Press 2008).
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.163.170.232
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 08:30 pm:   

Oops, didn't see the other question from Gary F.
Yes, I love Elizabeth Taylor's novels and stories.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 83.98.9.4
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 05:30 pm:   

Check out the poems p[age on my site

www.efilsgod.piczo.com

I can't link straight to the page coz I can't get on me own site through the work filters at the moment.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 05:32 pm:   

Des - Re: Taylor - ever read a tale called 'The Fly-Paper'?
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.163.170.232
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 05:46 pm:   

Gary, I've got two collections of stories by Elizabeth Taylor - 'A Dedicated Man and other stories' and 'Hester Lilly and other stories' - but none seems to contain one entitled 'The Fly Paper'. I don't recall that title. Where can I find it?
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.149.134.59
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 06:52 pm:   

Des, my mother is a great Elizabeth Taylor enthusiast (the novelist I mean, not the actress). There are two other collections (at least), plus a 'best short stories'. Enjoy!
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.163.170.232
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 11:13 am:   

Thanks, Joel. Your characters should sometimes have a cup of tea. :-)

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