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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.237.91
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 04:49 pm:   

I see it's a remake of an 80's Spanish thriller I've never heard of.... Anyone seen that one? Worth getting?

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ANGUISH
Horror
Logline: Watching a scary movie, two girls find themselves in a horror film of their own when their life starts to mirror the movie's plot. (02/11/2009) [Remake]
Buyer(s):
Production Company: Ghost House Pictures, Vertigo Entertainment, Mandate Pictures
Producers: Sam Raimi, Rob Tapert, Roy Lee, Doug Davison, Sonny Mallhi, Nathan Kahane, George Ayoub
Seller(s):
Writer: Jake Wade Wall
Comments: Remake of a 1987 Spanish film written and directed by Bigas Luna.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 05:28 pm:   

I've seen it, and I'll bet JLP has too. The uncut version was okay-ish...if you like eye-gouging scenes. :-/
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.185.64
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 05:35 pm:   

I remember this one - I saw it on video back in the eighties. The director seems to have had quite the preoccupation with optic mutilation and odd, domineering mother figures.
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Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts)
Username: Tom_alaerts

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.244.16.67
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 11:00 pm:   

I saw it back then in the cinema. I remember that it was pretty weak, except for the "cinema in cinema in cinema" effect near the end which was a good gimmick to make you feel bad at ease in the theatre.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.245.14
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 12:04 am:   

The vogue for remakes is like the vogue for tribute bands. Death to originality and death to memory. Death to thought and death to feeling.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.20.31.211
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 08:37 am:   

It's a generation of 'artists' trying to recapture their youth and show the next generation 'what they're missing out on'. We've allowed granddad to rule our houses of entertainment.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.209.110
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 08:57 am:   

No it's not: it's studios and promoters deciding the only safe way to guarantee profits is to go with what people already know, and young film-makers and musicians getting bullied into karaoke because they need an income and it has become the norm. If nostalgia features on the balance sheet it's merely as a commodity.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.20.31.211
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 09:42 am:   

Actually, I'm sure you're right.

Is it a way of potentially doubling the audience? Most horror movies are aimed at youngsters, but if you remake a film that was notorious when their parents were young, they potentially have two targets to aim for: the youngsters get to relish the notorious frights they've only heard about ("Ooh, when we first went to see The Exorcist, there were ambulances outside the cinema.") and their elders get to relive them without the creaking sets (because "things are so much better in our day"...).
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   

The remake of MBV has been the local multiplex's biggest hit in years. Not sure what that proves.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.20.31.211
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 01:19 pm:   

Remaking films - bringing families together. Come and see The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and reconnect to your estranged children or parents. Come together culturally via Leatherface. It's a public service. God bless Hollywood.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.253.8
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 05:36 pm:   

"Four quadrant" is a term they use salivatingly, in Hollywood, Gary: it refers to films that hit men and women >25, and men and women/teens <25 - a film that is capable of hitting all four quadrants, is what they all want now.

Joel, Hollywood's never wanted originality, all the way to the beginning... well, not to the exclusion of "tried and true." But freshness, rich soil, is originality - and they exclude it, ultimately, to their own debit. There had to be an original MY BLOODY VALENTINE to make a remake off... they better get some more originals in the can, or there'll be nothing to left to remake - except MBV2009.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.208.48.69
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 11:34 am:   

The remake of MBV has been the local multiplex's biggest hit in years. Not sure what that proves.

That the old gimmicks still work. Back in the day, Friday the 13th Part 3 3D was the biggest hit my local cinema, located deep within the Forest of Dean, had ever seen. But then that might have been because the local residents were relieved to see something that dealth gently and sympathetically with what some of them got up to.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 01:26 pm:   

Rather more gently and sympathetically than THE SINGING DETECTIVE. Did you see the original TV version of that, with Michael Gambon? Breathtaking stuff. Directors who think they can construct postmodern narratives about creativity using the cinematic equivalent of brown paper and string should watch THE SINGING DETECTIVE and weep. Not weep because it makes them feel inferior. Just weep because there's no other way to be while watching it.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.242.22
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 02:27 pm:   

I was absolutely blown away by Gambon in "The Singing Detective." That mini-series has to go down as one of the best ever, any time or country. It is so good, that it was able to taint the can-only-ever-have-been-inferior feature version well... I liked the feature version, only because it took on such a monumental task, so good-naturedly....

Speaking of the unfilmable - when is Hollywood (or elsewhere) ever going to do a version of Carlos Castaneda's THE TEACHINGS OF DON JUAN?... among other things, a fine mini-horror novel (i.e., a novel [yes, novel] containing fine mini-horrors)....
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 03:46 pm:   

Craig, have you read SORCEROR'S APPRENTICE by Amy Wallace? It's a memoir of her experiences as a lover and follower of Castaneda... neither a wide-eyed endorsement nor a sour debunking, but a perceptive, candid and rather disturbing account of how the cult around him created its own version of reality. Great book.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.249.163
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 03:55 pm:   

No, I've not, Joel. But I'll go seek that out.

The book lends itself easily to movie-ization, and the climax I remember as being assuredly horrific, and unsettling. The estate was seeking a deal on all his books in one big sale, years back (oh, probably 8 years ago I checked)... the rights were amazingly still available!... but it must have been because the terms/price-tag was so high....
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.249.163
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 04:02 pm:   

Meanwhile, this is what you get when you put Tom Cruise and Ben Stiller together in a (admittedly good) movie....

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The HARDY MEN
Comedy
Logline: The Hardy Boys have grown up and haven't spoken to each other in 15 years, but must team up to find their kidnapped father. (02/13/2009) [Script]
Buyer(s):
Studio: Fox 2000
Executives: Carla Hacken, Elizabeth Gabler
Production Company: Red Hour Films, 21 Laps Entertainment
Producers: Ben Stiller, Stuart Cornfeld, Shawn Levy, Robert Kosberg
Seller(s):
Writer: Mark Perez , Simon Kinberg , Ed Solomon , Michael Sargent , Ron Parker
Agency: CAA, Circle of Confusion
Representatives: Brian Lutz
Attorneys: Karl Austen
Stars: Tom Cruise, Ben Stiller
Comments: Ron Parker is rewriting Michael Sargent's original.
Update: 5/1/2003: Mark Perez is the latest writer on this project. 2/12/2007: Tom Cruise will co-star with Ben Stiller. Shawn Levy will direct. 4/18/2007: Simon Kinberg will rewrite. 2/13/2009: Ed Solomon is the latest writer on this project.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.208.48.69
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 07:05 pm:   

Rather more gently and sympathetically than THE SINGING DETECTIVE. Did you see the original TV version of that, with Michael Gambon? Breathtaking stuff.

Marvellous marvellous stuff. It was only when I read Potter's autobiography that I realised he had lived so near to where I grew up and that was enough to make me devour his television plays. My parents were huge fans of that, Pennies From Heaven and Son of Man.

I even have a copy of Blackeyes
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.5.0.31
Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 04:10 pm:   

Ha! I love it!!!

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PRIDE AND PREDATOR
Comedy, Period, Thriller
Logline: An alien crash lands and begins to butcher the mannered characters of a Jane Austen novel. (02/17/2009) [Script]
Buyer(s):
Production Company: Rocket Pictures
Producers: Elton John, Steve Hamilton-Shaw, David Furnish
Seller(s):
Writer: Will Clark , Andrew Kemble , John Pape
Comments: Will Clark will direct.

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