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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 92.10.193.63
Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 01:46 pm:   

As a random mood lightener here are two things that made me smile yesterday;

A young dad showing his little boy how to read the word 'Necronomicon' on the cover of a book in Forbidden Planet.

And

The first ever Maurice Level-influenced advert on the telly: two young lovers having a picnic in a hayfield. The ad line? Du vin, du pain, du Boursin......Du TRACTEUR!!!!

As a combine harvester bears down on them. Probably the farmer husband of that naughty young cheese and wine guzzling young lady. Which just goes to show you shouldn't have so much sex you go deaf before having tea.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.241.143
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 01:19 am:   

John, have you seen the very Campbellian new ad that's part of the drink-driving campaign? A guy seeing the crumpled body of a dead kid everywhere he looks - in a cafe, on his bedroom floor, etc. Very disturbing.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 92.10.193.63
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 07:38 am:   

I have! It plays in the cinemas here all the time, and the line is something like 'The Speed Limit - if you can't keep to it you'll have to live with it'. I find it rather disturbing for all sorts of reasons, and while I can understand where they're coming from, no-one actually sets out to run kids over, and now it would seem they can't even escape the psychological trauma by going to watch a movie.

We seem to be entering a new age of public information films don't we? Every time I go to the cinema now I'm being warned of the perils of chlamydia and gonorrhoea, but at least according to the adverts it appears to be written on affected individuals' underwear or jewellery, so the message is obviously that you just have to check carefully first.
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.70.57.151
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 09:42 am:   

Then there is the one where the head slowly burns to warn against stokes (brings back some bad memories for me, not about a stroke but something else) but - imagine those watching who have just lost someone to a stroke. As John said, I understand where they are coming from but this nanny state perhaps is going too far? Or does the state do too little in that respect or have they got it right? I think they go too far.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 10:53 am:   

It's not the state, Ally, it's some media agency to which the making of these films has been contracted out. Public health education is valid and necessary, I think – but it helps if the educational materials are appropriate and well-considered, not crude and inflammatory shock tactics designed by some whizzkid who hopes his next job will be commissioned by Eli Roth.
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.70.57.151
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 10:56 am:   

Fair point Joel but don't they have to approve it before broadcast. If I was the one that had to say yes or no I'd tell them to give it another go.
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.70.57.151
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:18 am:   

Here is a little bit about the company who made it and what they were aiming for.

http://www.4rfv.co.uk/industrynews.asp?id=89437
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:39 am:   

My biggest problem with the anti-speeding adverts is that they imply that every time a pedestrian is hit by a car it's the fault of the motorist speeding.

they totally ignore the facts (taken from RoSOA's own website) that 85% of accidents happen below the speed limit and the vast majority of accidents are the fault of pedestrians not looking.

But it's the driver who's demonised all the time.

Some of the adverts contain complete lies. The "It takes 30 feet longer to stop from 35mph" advert for example. My Corsa stops in a shorter distance from 40 than my peugeot did from 30. A fact which has saved the life of an imbecilic 6 year old who ran out in front of me when I'd only had it for 2 weeks. I managed to stop in time but I dread to think what would have happened just a few weeks earlier.
Also the one about hitting a child at whatever speed and they're more likely to survive. It depends on the height of the child in proportion to your car. If you hit the child in the chest they will probably not make it. If you hit a child in the legs they probably will, as long as they aren't thrown too far by the impact. So a young child has far less chance regardless of speed.

The adverts should concentrate on getting pedestrians to cross the road safely instead of demonising the poor motorists who will be traumatised for life if they're unlucky enough to be involved in a collision with a pedestrian.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:40 am:   

RoSPA even
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.70.57.151
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:21 pm:   

Something similar happened to me last year Weber as I was driving through the countryside. It was a sunny day so I was wearing sunglasses. I came to a part of the road which led through a small wood. The road suddenly plunged into darkness due to overhanging trees that joined to form a tunnel. I found it difficult to see and almost hit the jogger coming towards me. I missed him by inches. It really shook me up and I've not forgotten it. I could so easily have hit him and in this case it would have been my fault.
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:59 pm:   

On the question of admonitory advertising, I think the anti-cannabis ad is likely just to amuse cannabis users.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 217.37.199.45
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 01:25 pm:   

As are the other ads, other TV programmes, and life in general.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.20.31.211
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 01:26 pm:   

I hit a pheasant over the moors last week. The poor thing was catapulted over the nearest fence in a flurry of detached feathers. It went with such a thump. I can only imagine how much worse it would have been if I'd been in my car.
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.143.178.131
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 01:30 pm:   

I shot an elephant in my pajamas last night...
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.253.174.81
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 01:39 pm:   

The adverts should concentrate on getting pedestrians to cross the road safely instead of demonising the poor motorists who will be traumatised for life if they're unlucky enough to be involved in a collision with a pedestrian.

Absolutely! It also might suggests to psychopaths with a grasp of the equations of motion that if a stationary child is more like to live if you hit them at 30mph then they should also live if you hit them at 40mph while they're running away from you at 10mph.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.167.124.163
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 01:41 pm:   

Reefer madness
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 04:15 pm:   

I shot an elephant in my pajamas last night...

I assume you're waiting for someone to say what big pyjamas you have if an elephant was wearing them.

Well we won't.
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Jonathan (Jonathan)
Username: Jonathan

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.143.178.131
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 04:17 pm:   

Spoil sport
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Gcw (Gcw)
Username: Gcw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.151.125.173
Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 09:02 pm:   

All this raving about skunk pisses me off.

You get some middle class MILF Mummy whose little darling smokes a bail of that shit a week and is somewhat surprised when he developes mental problems.

I smoked skunk in Amsterdam years ago and i could hardly walk back to the hotel. It's bloody strong stuff. Get a life. Get a brain. A little of anything in moderation, within reason is ok. If i drunk a bottle of whisky a day I would be in a similar situation.

Nanny...nanny nanny - Why can't people just use their brains??

gcw
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 12:25 pm:   

Because they're ignorant twunts with no intelligence who need to be spoonfed with everything that we take for common sense.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.5.4.37
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 04:07 pm:   

As I get older, I'm more convinced, continued drug-use can only make you more and more stupid.

Alas, however, continued lack of drug-use doesn't make you smarter.

What's "skunk"?
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.193.9
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 05:27 pm:   

Craig, 'skunk' is a hybrid of different types of cannabis that has quite a high THC count. I remember 'Thai sticks' back in the early 90s - they packed quite a punch as well.

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