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Matt_cowan (Matt_cowan)
Username: Matt_cowan

Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 68.249.99.182
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 06:54 pm:   

For something I've been working on lately I was trying to put together a list of some of the most unique and interesting horror literature antagonists. An was looking for possible suggestions. So far I have: Minheer Valderkaust of Rotterdam from Schaulken the Painter by LeFanu, Smilemimme from The Grin of The Dark by Ramsey Campbell, Dickon the Devil also by LeFanu, The Severed Hand from The Beast with Five Fingers by W.F. Harvey, and the monsterous Alice from Happy Hour by Ian Watson. There are a ton more I know but I've had some trouble bringing them to mind. Anybody have some suggestions?
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Craig (Craig)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.5.15.126
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 08:32 pm:   

What about... Count Dracula?...
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
Username: Seanmcd

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 86.155.106.11
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 11:10 pm:   

Those creeping bushes from 'The Willows' by Algernon Blackwood. The spectre composed of bed sheets in 'Oh! Whistle and I'll come to you, my Lad' by M.R.James.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.251.6
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 01:20 am:   

The narrator in Poe's 'The Imp of the Perverse'. Fortunato in Poe's 'The Cask of Amontillado'. The cat in Poe's 'The Black Cat'.

Poe had more issues than a collector of WEIRD TALES.
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.182.236
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 02:08 am:   

Interesting question, Matt. How about the house itself in Shirley Jackson's The Haunting of Hill House? Also:

- Coppelius in Hoffmann's 'The Sandman'
- Miss Seaton in de la Mare's 'Seaton's Aunt'
- Asenath Waite in Lovecraft's 'The Thing on the Doorstep'
- Pennywise the clown in King's It
- Mr. Dark in Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes

Of course, there's always Moriarty, in the Sherlock Holmes stories.
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Matt_cowan (Matt_cowan)
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Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 68.249.99.182
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 04:40 am:   

There are a lot of great suggestions here, many I have read but there are some I'll have to look up. By the way Huw, I always enjoyed "The Thing on the Doorstep" as well but it seems not a lot of people do. I'm glad I'm not alone there.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 91.110.130.38
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 09:03 am:   

I like it. Underrated, because it's about a marriage gone wrong rather than 'the cosmos'. That scene in the car is incredible.
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Simon Bestwick (Simon_b)
Username: Simon_b

Registered: 10-2008
Posted From: 86.24.165.182
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 10:35 am:   

Helen Vaughn in Machen's 'The
Great God Pan'
Mr Abney in James' 'Lost Hearts'
Mr Karswell in James' 'Casting The Runes'
A certain female figure in Leiber's 'Our Lady Of Darkness'...
Horridge in 'The Face That Must Die'
Queenie in 'The Influence'
Dudley Smith in 'Secret Story'
Oswald in 'The House On Nazareth Hill'
And many more...
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.20.31.211
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 10:41 am:   

Norman Daniels in Rose Madder.
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Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.78.35.170
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 10:50 am:   

As the recent discussion of Mo Hayder brought back chilling memories of The Nurse (in Tokyo), this is my candidate.
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Stephenw (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.3.2
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 01:11 pm:   

Off the top of my head some of the most memorable horror villains I've read...

Melmoth in 'Melmoth The Wanderer' by Maturin
Gil Martin in 'The Private Memoirs And Confessions Of A Justified Sinner' by Hogg
The doppelganger of Golyadkin in 'The Double' by Dostoevsky
Svengali in 'Trilby' by Du Maurier
Stoker's Dracula (for me justifiably the greatest of all horror villains)
Joseph Curwen in 'The Case Of Charles Dexter Ward' by Lovecraft
Mocata in 'The Devil Rides Out' by Wheatley
Old Mother Bates in Bloch's 'Psycho' - the novel, where she is every bit as much a character as poor downtrodden Norman
The entity that is Sage/Eve/that hideous old woman in Ramsey's 'Incarnate'
Absalom Troet/nice old Mr Rosebottom in 'The Ceremonies' by Klein
Mamoulian in 'The Damnation Game' by Barker
The demonic dwarf in 'Sleeping In Flame' by Carroll
etc, etc, etc...
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 01:16 pm:   

Timmy Valentine in Somtow's great trilogy
Hector woolley in silent Chlidren
the title character from Birdman by Hayder.
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Stephenw (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.3.2
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 01:33 pm:   

Hi "Weber", glad to meet a fellow Jonathan Carroll fan!! I was beginning to think I was the only person who had ever heard of him. The guy is right up there with Ramsey imho.
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.179.191
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 02:00 pm:   

The Land of Laughs is a particular favourite of mine, and I think The Panic Hand is a good collection (I wish he'd write more short stories). I still have a handful of his novels that I've dutifully bought, but not got around to reading... must rectify that.
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Frank (Frank)
Username: Frank

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 79.187.206.46
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 02:18 pm:   

Stephenw - Mr Carroll has many admirers on this board. The Land of Laughs is one of my favourite debuts.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.167.124.163
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 02:27 pm:   

I really want to get round to reading Jonathan Carroll's work- have not read his stuff. Where is a good place to start other than with The land of laughs?
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 02:46 pm:   

Sleeping in flames, Bones of the moon, A child Across the Sky, Outside the dog museum.

There you go, one of the most original horror protagonists, Midnight from Child Across the Sky
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.167.124.163
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 03:04 pm:   

Thanks Weber!
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Stephenw (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.32.3.2
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 03:44 pm:   

It was 'Voice Of Our Shadow' got me into JC back in the early 80s (like 'The Nameless' with RC). These two books - along with 'The Religion' by Nicholas Conde - struck me at the time as somehow important. I knew they were somehow better than the Stephen King/James Herbert material I had been reading at the same time but couldn't quite articulate why back then. Now I realise that - as great a storyteller as Mr King undoubtedly is - their works lack that subtle ambiguity and haunting quality that is the mark of geat writing. My favourite authors are now William Golding & Fyodor Dostoevsky which will give some idea of the journey I've taken since then (without ever losing my hot-wired-to-the-synapses love of Horror). 'Lord Of The Flies' & 'Crime And Punishment' (I suspect a big influence on Mr Campbell too?) are the pinnacle of "disturbing literature" for me!
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Matt_cowan (Matt_cowan)
Username: Matt_cowan

Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 68.249.99.182
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 04:42 pm:   

The Land of Laughs is a particular favourite of mine

I heard of this book recently because it was referrenced in the TV show Fringe.
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Stephenw (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 82.4.20.22
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 06:56 am:   

'The Land Of Laughs' is probably the most original example of my favourite horror theme: the individual/couple/family unwittingly straying into an isolated outwardly normal small community that hides a dark secret and from which leaving proves just a tad difficult.
While 'Voice Of Our Shadow' is a mind-bogglingly original complete reinvention of the old "revenge from beyond the grave" ghost story.
After that Carroll's books just get harder to second guess and all the more addictive - for me anyway.

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