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Niki Flynn (Niki)
Username: Niki

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.32.69.29
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 11:25 pm:   

So I watched CASTLE OF THE WALKING DEAD last night, which I'd seen a German trailer for about a year ago as DIE SCHLANGENGRUBE UND DAS PENDEL, not realising it was the same film as one called THE TORTURE CHAMBER OF DR SADISM. And according to IMDB there's an American version called BLOOD OF THE VIRGINS. And another called BLOOD DEMONS. And SNAKEPIT. And TORTURE CHAMBER.

I understand titles mutate through translation, but why do they end up having so many variations in English alone? (And in my experience it only seems to happen with horror and porn, so is it genre-specific?) Is it some ploy to get you to see the film again? A way of hoodwinking the distributors? Does anyone know?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 09:05 am:   

It's an attempt to disguise rubbish films...
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.159.159.111
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 09:58 am:   

Oooh, I dunno - LIVING DEAD AT THE MANCHESTER MORGUE has loads of titles too, and I think that's a nice little film. My copy's called LET SLEEPING CORPSES LIE, for a start, and I recall reading a huge number of different names for it some years back.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 10:03 am:   

That's an excellent film, Mick.

My guess is that these films were retitled and repackaged to make more money - you know, in the hope of sneaking them past a casual viewer who thinks it's a new film.
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John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.203.130.100
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 10:49 am:   

Oh Miss Flynn you should have asked me - I could have told you it was a retitling.

Last night I watched Hammer's The Satanic Rites of Dracula under the title Count Dracula & His Vampire Brides. It's also been called Dracula is Dead & Well & Living in London.

And yes - movies were often retitled to make more money, and more specifically to be part of a double bill - eg Living Dead at the Manchester Morgue got retitled as 'Don't Open the Window' when it was billed with SF Brownrigg's 'Don't Look in the Basement'.

One of the best examples was Del Tenney's 'Zombies' which was retitled by distributor Jerry Gross as 'I Eat Your Skin' to go out with 'I Drink Your Blood'.

Do you think I need to see someone to have all this stuff taken out of my head?
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:15 am:   

I've got a film at home called Zombie Nosh which has a different title in the end credits and yet another title in the trailer for itself which is also on the tape.

It's one of the worst zombie films ever made.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:17 am:   

Then there's Tenebrae which was called Unsane in the US of A.

Peter Jackson's Brain Dead was retitled Dead alive for the states to stop it getting mixed with a US film also called BrainDead which was handled by the same distributor.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.167.124.163
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:45 am:   

Film titles in translation are also fun and are changed really dramatically. In Denmark for example lots of popular horror movies are preceded with the word 'the evil' something:

Pet cemetery: The evil cemetery (equivalent danish trans)

The silence of the lambs: Evil's Eye

The shinning: The evil hotel

etc...
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 85.158.139.99
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:46 am:   

Do you think I need to see someone to have all this stuff taken out of my head?

Only if you're running out of space for new stuff.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.167.124.163
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:48 am:   

It: The Evil thing

Salem's lot: the evil town
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.167.124.163
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:52 am:   

Jacob's Ladder: 'The descent into hell', is another translation.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 02:53 pm:   

The sound of Music was allegedly retitled into Spanish as The Story of Maria, rebel novice nun
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 82.20.31.211
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 03:04 pm:   

The Yorkshire release of Sunset Boulevard was called Bit Parky Darn Our Road.

It wasn't really, but it should have been.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.167.124.163
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 03:19 pm:   

Ha!
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 06:12 pm:   

Zombie Nosh - the other titles are

Flesh Eater
Flesh eater: Revenge of the living Dead
Revenge of the Living Zombies.

It's one of the few films where the proles on IMDB say they like it while the "intelligentia" are the naysayers.
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Niki Flynn (Niki)
Username: Niki

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.32.69.29
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 01:22 pm:   

What on earth is a LIVING zombie?

Thanks for answering the question for me. I guess I'm still naive enough to have believed there was some reason other than to make more money. Ah well.

A quick IMDB search on "Dr. Tarr's Torture Dungeon" reveals some poorly disguised alternate titles, plus one of the most off-the-wall I've ever seen:

Dr. Goudron's System
Dr. Tarr's Pit of Horrors
Edgar Allan Poe: Dr. Tarr's Torture Dungeon (USA)
House of Madness
Mansión de la locura, La (Mexico) (dubbed version)
The System of Dr. Tarr and Professor Feather

That last one's really something special.
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.231.91
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 01:44 pm:   

That last one is also the original title of the Poe story, believe it or not! The exact title is "The System of Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether".
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.231.91
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 02:02 pm:   

La Lama nel Corpo (original title):

Night of Terrors
Les Nuits de l'épouvante (France)
Revenge of the Living Dead
The Blade in the Body (a literal translation of the original title, this)
The Murder Clinic (USA)
The Murder Society

There was some talk about this being released on dvd, but alas . . .
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Ramsey Campbell (Ramsey)
Username: Ramsey

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.74
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 03:00 pm:   

Many years ago in Paris I went across town to see a film with the tempting title of (I think) Le Monstre qui Chuchotait dans les Tenebres. Imagine my dismay when I arrived to be confronted by the poster for The Deadly Mantis.

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