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     Gcw (Gcw) Username: Gcw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.151.125.173 |
...Bearing in mind nobody has even mentioned it here yet, am I right to assume a lot of you found it as dull, predictable & boring as me? (Plus it was a bloody rip off of Pitch Black too!) gcw | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.177.115.122 |
It was, but sort of ok-ish (as my expectations are pretty low for this now) but the... SPOILER ...flying bus was a bollocks idea. 'Real' Doctor Who wouldn't have had that. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.177.115.122 |
Nice at last to have a female sidekick who didn't speak Estuary English though. | ||
| Gcw (Gcw) Username: Gcw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.151.125.173 |
Yes, and rather easy on the eye too...But as you say mate, our expectations for this are pretty low now. gcw | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.177.115.122 |
Plus - and I'm turning into my parents here - she was a criminal but because she only did it for excitement it was ok for him to help her escape capture. As if the police couldn't track a flying bus. "She's escaped!". "No, it's ok, she's just up there in that number 200"! | ||
| Jonathan (Jonathan) Username: Jonathan Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.69.76.168 |
"'Real' Doctor Who wouldn't have had that." But what do you consider 'Real' Doctor Who? I thought it was a really strong episode. Terrific fun. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.177.115.127 |
tbh, I consider 'real' doctor who to be Hartnell to, possibly, Davidson. All in my humble opinion, of course! This episode was better than a fair few since the 'reinvention', but not great. | ||
| Stu (Stu) Username: Stu Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 86.29.102.216 |
Like most New Who episodes that I've seen I thought was absolute shite until I eventually reached the point of not caring anymore and just let it wash over me and it became just about tolerable. | ||
| Jonathan (Jonathan) Username: Jonathan Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.69.76.168 |
Did anyone see the Godawful Red Dwarf reboot? Some Hartnell stories are good, although there's easily as much sillyness as New Who there too. However, when Hartnell was on form he was quite brilliant. The Davidson era started and ended very well but there were a few bumps along the way. | ||
| Steve Bacon (Stevebacon) Username: Stevebacon Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 90.211.103.83 |
Surely Tom Baker is the real Doctor Who? | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.177.115.127 |
Nah. Troughton. Mick the old git. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.177.115.127 |
Did anyone see the Godawful Red Dwarf reboot? Yep - not great. Although it must be said the lack of studio laughter and improved effects meant the first episode was poignant, as there was a real feeling of the size of the ship and the boring, lonely life this bunch of misfits was living. The Blade Runner connection was a bit too obvious; they didn't need to state it as well. Loved Rimmer doing the zooming on the photo though! | ||
| Jonathan (Jonathan) Username: Jonathan Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.69.76.168 |
The Bladerunner tribute began to grate after about 10 seconds. It just seemed a bit of a lazy way to structure it to me. I did think the computer effects were surprisingly good, though I was missing the good old model work of the original series. | ||
| Gcw (Gcw) Username: Gcw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.151.125.173 |
"'Real' Doctor Who wouldn't have had that." I just think the series is tired at the moment. It's been tired before many times...the last Pertwee series, some later Tom Baker's most of poor ol'Colin Baker and the appalling 1st series of McCoy. I loved the first series of reboot 'Who and feel it has slowly slipped into dullness & predictability. It was edge of the seat stuff when it first reappeared in 2005...Now I have to make myself watch it. What's the betting that Matt Smith will look like the Emo prettyboy in 'Twilight'? But hey,maybe he will be OK, I don't mind just as long as it gets 'Who out of the doldrums again. I see Bernard Cribbins is back for Tennants Finale, plus The Master, plus I expect Rose..Donna, Cap Jack...Davros...Cybermen....Sarah Jane...the Zarbi....Macra....K9...And a little Cairn terrier called Bobby who was in a 1972 story. Enough. Just bloody change into Smith. gcw | ||
| Steve Bacon (Stevebacon) Username: Stevebacon Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 90.211.103.83 |
Maybe Steven Moffatt is just what the doctor ordered... (sorry). | ||
| John (John) Username: John Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.1.217 |
Guff. Russell T Davies ran out of ideas for Doctor Who years ago. The Langoliers + a cut-rate Lara Croft seemed to be the concept behind this misfire. I actually thought Red Dwarf fared a little better. The first episode was okay, had some decent lines, but then it turned into the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie (or The Dark Tower scenes with Stephen King, take your pick) and degenerated into endless Blade Runner spoofs. I reckon there could still be life in the auld dug yet, although I suggest that Naylor gets himself a new writing partner as this, and the eighth season, suggest that he can't hack it on his own. | ||
| Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.63.6 |
I'm with Steve and Steve on this - let us see what Moffatt has to offer. | ||
| Jonathan (Jonathan) Username: Jonathan Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 91.143.178.131 |
I think that people are actually a bit too harsh on RTD. Yes, he has his shortcomings as a writer (but then so do the majority of screen writers), yes he's spread WHO a bit thin with all these spin-offs, but we have to remember that he has also brought WHO back and made it bigger than ever. That was utterly unprecedented a few years ago when it seemed the show would never be coming back. He has also gathered some of the most talented TV writers around, Steven Moffat's WHO has been some of the best TV on the box in the last few years period, and then there has been some fantastic stuff from Mark Gattis, Gareth Roberts and many others. | ||
| Gcw (Gcw) Username: Gcw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.151.125.173 |
I don't have any problem with RTD, I respect the work he has done bringing the show back. I just think a fresh look would re-invigorate the show. It was the same with poor old John Nathan Turner...He was praised to high heaven - at first. gcw | ||
| Jonathan (Jonathan) Username: Jonathan Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.69.28.215 |
Absolutely agree GCW. Can't wait for the era of the Moffat produced episodes. Yeah, the more I look back on the JNT era the more I can see how dreadful a lot of it was. | ||
| Gcw (Gcw) Username: Gcw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.151.125.173 |
Funny isn't it? After the tatty 2nd-from-last Tom Baker season, JNT Seemed like the second coming. But now, I would prefer to watch those tatty silly Graham Williams ones...S'funny how a little humour ages better than that po faced 80's seriousness. gcw | ||
| Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.104.255 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZvbMA6xtjQ | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.177.115.127 |
Simon - that's brilliant - cheers for the link. | ||
| John Llewellyn Probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.209.204.118 |
Just seen the Dr Who & loved it. I agree it was rubbish but I absolutely loved it anyway. First class family fun. What's wrong with me? And the sock puppet version is even better! | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.241.143 |
I'm with you, John. Rubbish, but I enjoyed it wholeheartedly. | ||
| Simon Strantzas (Nomis) Username: Nomis Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 99.225.104.255 |
It's difficult to disappoint me with the new Who. I don't care how flimsy or derivative it is. I love it. | ||
| Jonathan (Jonathan) Username: Jonathan Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.69.109.39 |
I've been revisiting some of the Holmes era Tom Baker stuff and that probably stands up as the best consistent era of WHO. Talons of Weng Chiang, Planet of Evil, Brain of Morbius, Image of the Fendahl. All pretty excellent stuff. JNT was the one who started stunt-casting. Hale and Pace appeared in the last McCoy adventure. Not a joy to watch. Although the speech as the Doctor and Ace walk through the doors of the TARDIS for the last time always bring a tear to my eye. I really am an incredible geek. |