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     Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=7662 Anyone think this is hokey or that there's something to it? On another thread we were directed to something on Google earth, and so I downloaded it and have become hooked again. Looking across toward Salem and Vancouver I found all these bigfoot references; there were so many, so many wonderful stories - mysterious, wondrous things. I'm amazed a great, eerie movie hasn't been made on the subject. As I said once before, Shyamalan should do it - it'd be just right in his hands, I think. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
Here's the perfect movie outline. This for some reason strikes me as a believably human, and odd, story. http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
Frick; it doesn't link to the story, and i can't find it. Damn. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
I've been thinking about Springheel Jack again. That was bloomin' weird. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Been another hanging near Bridgend as well. Just the yesterday. http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/04/20/teenager-found-dead-in -bridgend-91466-20792158/ Funny. Since the stories really hit the news there was a gap, as if the attention had warned the phenomena off, then they started again. Just like a predatory killer would act. Oh, and I was joking about killing that man, Tony. In my email. Just a gag. Honest.  | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Yep, just the yesterday. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.23.225.121 |
I wondered if someone hanged people deliberately, like there were a few murders among the suicides. Daft, but, you know, it pops in there, doesn't it? I imagined it being like that post about the farmhouse, something spreading from it and making a village kill itself out. One day a family visits the village in their car, just passing through, then finds it all empty, like Marie Celeste, but with ropes hanging from trees, things like that. I'm fascinated with the idea of ghosts towns, how they begin and end; I wonder if it's like this? | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.23.225.121 |
The bigfoot stories were great. One was about a woman who recorded a weird scream in the woods near her house; the sounds went on for nine months or so, drove her nuts. She saw things walking around, found a dog with it's head ripped off. It really affected her life but then she just stopped investigating it, gave all her findings - diary etc, recordings - away to her daughter for a school project. Apparently the recordings were really unearthly, almost human, and chilling to hear. These stories made you think about huge, deep woods, the spirituality of such places, their being feet away from other worlds. As an aside I've been reading about sloths; did you know plants grew in their fur, and bugs lived in it and grew there, living out their lives in it? The sloths bury their poo in the ground under the tree they live and feed from. They are as close to nature as it can be possible to be, blended in with it. Also they sleep for 80% of the day, almost dreaming meat with life growing on it. Magic; I love stuff like that. | ||
| Chris_morris (Chris_morris) Username: Chris_morris Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 12.165.240.116 |
>>almost dreaming meat with life growing on it. And they're not the only ones. The human body, for instance, contains twenty times more microbes than cells. And I sleep a lot. ;-) | ||
| Barbara Roden (Nebuly) Username: Nebuly Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 216.232.189.45 |
A friend of my parents told Mom a story about when she was in hospital in Kamloops (about 55 miles east of here) many years ago. She was sharing a room with an old Native woman who, when the friend mentioned she lived near Ashcroft, said that she grew up in the Three Sisters area outside town, in the mountains to the west of us (about 15 miles as the crow flies). She said that when she was a young teenager she left the area and never returned, because she saw a Sasquatch in the woods near where she lived, and it frightened her so much she couldn't stay. Every time we drive down to Vancouver we take the Agassiz bypass south of Hope, about 100 miles south of us, and the highway takes us across Ruby Creek, site of one of the better known and documented Sasquatch sightings of the twentieth century. Here's a good account of it: http://tinyurl.com/4kbcxh I don't know that my parents knew of this story; but one day about twenty or so years ago they were driving from Ashcroft down to Vancouver in early evening, and had just crossed over Ruby Creek. At that point the bypass parallels the Fraser River, which is to the left as you're driving south, and is two to three hundred yards away from the river, separated by fields scattered with trees. The bypass is never terribly busy - most traffic uses the Trans-Canada, on the other side of the river - and it's not unusual to be the only car on the road, especially out of the summer season. Anyway, as they were driving along my Mom's eye was caught by a figure moving across the open space towards the river to the left of the road, some distance off. She watched it, at first thinking it was a man, as it was walking upright, but she realised that it was moving in an odd way and seemed too big for a man. She lost sight of it then, but to this day doesn't know what it was: not a bear (they don't walk upright for long distances), not a cow, and she's not sure that it was a person. Ask people around here who know the woods about the possibility of something like Sasquatch, and most treat the subject seriously: they know there's an awful lot of forest out there, most of which has never known a human footprint. Thirty or more years ago my Dad was staying at a cabin in the woods to the west of here, and at dusk heard a noise from the forest that was like no animal noise he'd ever heard. Sasquatch? Maybe. . . . | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
Bigfoot is so utterly Blackwood territory, isn't it? The thing that spooks me about the stories I've been reading is the terror in the voices of the narrators, the genuineness. I've met two people who claim to have seen Nessie and the same timbre is there, that of people who have seen the unbelievable. Nessie is also treated seriously in Scotland, and no amount of poo-pooing by scientists or whatever or skeptics can erase that sense that something is 'out there', whatever those things might be. Thanks for that, Barbara. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
And that story (the one you posetd the link to)is spine tingling, btw! | ||
| Barbara Roden (Nebuly) Username: Nebuly Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 216.232.189.45 |
Yes, the Ruby Creek story is one of the creepier Sasquatch stories I've read, and believe me, I've read a few. Another good one is recounted by Teddy Roosevelt in his 1892 book The Wilderness Hunter; it was told to him by one of the men involved, while Roosevelt was in the area near where it happened (in Montana). You can find it here, in Roosevelt's own words:http://tinyurl.com/5bfckh | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.17.160.151 |
Whatever you may think of his politics, American film critic/social commentator/radio talk-show host Michael Medved is a pretty sound, no-nonsense, logic-bound fellow... and he's absolutely convinced by the research he's done, that Bigfoot/Sasquatch exists... this guy revels in lampooning people who believe in (what are to him) bizarre and strange phenomena, like UFOs; so for him to believe something like this... it's compelling testimony, at least.... But then Newton believed in Astrology, right? | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
Ha! I do. It'll be explained, one day, quite logically. | ||
| Barbara Roden (Nebuly) Username: Nebuly Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 216.232.189.45 |
It's easy to be sceptical about something like Sasquatch: an argument you hear a lot is 'Why hasn't anyone run across one in the woods/brought back a carcass?' Well, the most cursory flight over any random section of British Columbia will show that there's an awful lot of wilderness out there, and the odds of finding something even if you know what you're looking for and where to look are pretty slim; the odds of running across a shy creature that doesn't exist in large numbers is slim to none. Two examples: a few years back a climber going up the popular Grouse Grind trail, up Grouse Mountain in North Vancouver within five miles of downtown, went missing; it took days to find his body, even though searchers knew where to look. And in the late 1950s/early 1960s a small plane went down to the east of Vancouver, only about 15 miles from the city and the airport; despite intensive searching, the wreckage wasn't found until a hiker stumbled across it three decades later. As to the carcass example: if something dies in the woods, it's eaten and the remains dispersed pretty quickly. Unless you happen to stumble on something minutes after it died, there isn't going to be anything to bring out. | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.156.247 |
It'll be explained, one day, quite logically. Go and stand in the corner, Tony. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
Mick - explain that dj, the Scottish one - Nicky Campbell - who didn't believe in astrology either but who could, inexplicably, guess people's starsigns with an 80-90% hit rate. Really! Barbara; I read of one case where a badly decomposed body was found, but when the people went back next day it had been moved with only gloop lying in it's place. Like i said, it's the fear and awe in the voices of the people who encounter these things that impresses me. Come on Shyamalan - give us the CE3K of sasquatch movies! | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=14344 http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=6579 | ||
| Mick Curtis (Mick) Username: Mick Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.156.247 |
Mick - explain that dj, the Scottish one - Nicky Campbell - who didn't believe in astrology either but who could, inexplicably, guess people's starsigns with an 80-90% hit rate. Really! No! It's nonsense! | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_liath This sounds spooky, too. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
http://www.ghost-story.co.uk/stories/johnsexperiencebenmacdhui.html | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
'The sightings of strange creatures are not the only things people have experienced while on the mountain or in the area. Other people have reported being in the area and suddenly overwhelmed by either a feeling of utter panic or a downward turning of their thoughts which made them incredibly depressed, or both. Some have reported being drawn as if hypnotically to the edge of dangerous ledges while others are believed to have been chased to their deaths, in their desperation to escape, over the edge of the cliff known as Lurcher's Crag.' What if Bridgend, places like it, cause these feelings? I've seen the place and it made me shiver, inexplicably; just something about the setting stuck in my mind. I wonder... | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Apparently there have been other clusters of suicides in Glasgow and Belfast that are bigger in number. Although that fact has been used to debunk the notion of this cluster being significant...rather than supporting it. As weirdos I suggest we take the latter route. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.23.225.121 |
This stuff gets to me more than zombies and the like, btw. Wish there were movies of it. | ||
| Barbara Roden (Nebuly) Username: Nebuly Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 216.232.189.45 |
Interesting link to the article about the Greyman, Tony. I wonder if accounts of it inspired H. R. Wakefield to write 'The Cairn'. It's set in the Lake District, not Scotland, but is about a creature said to haunt the top and upper reaches of a well known climbing spot. Wakefield was interested in climbing and accounts of it - in 'The Horror Horn' he makes reference to a then-current account of one of the early Mt Everest expeditions - so it seems likely that he would have heard of the Greyman. | ||
| Griff (Griff) Username: Griff Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100 |
"I'm amazed a great, eerie movie hasn't been made on the subject." I can just remember as a nipper watching the first part of a double bill in Brynaman cinema about the Sasquatch. Scared the shit out of me! What were they thinking, especially the segment that involved a slowly ambling Bigfoot after a little native American Indian lad from the "mans" POV. There he was just feet away looking up at the monster coming after him the look of fear on his face falling over and getting back up and the thing just behind him remorseless. What were they thinking showing that?! It was like the Blair Witch Project. Put the fear of God into me. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
I need to unsee bigfoot. I just see a monkey in a bad suit. Mmm, that doesn't make sense. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183 |
A monkey in a man suit? This might be my favourite weird thread today. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.148.96.124 |
Just watched a show called Monster Hunter. In it this guy investigated the Yeti and found loads of fottprints in the mountains near everest. The prints were huge and deep and very far apart to have been faked by a little nepalese person. They took casts of them, taking them back to the states for analysis where this biologist said they were the most convincing evidence yet seen of the existence of the yeti. He then took out a cast of an alleged print of bigfoot; there were barely any differences whatsoever. I think they're real, these creatures, and hope they manage to keep eluding us. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
A monkey in a man suit? That's a startling image. A suit made to look like an actual man. Imagine that running around weirding people out, Jeremy Beadle style. Gulp what a horrible idea I just thought. Suppose someone started doing Beadle pranks with a man who looks just like Jeremy Beadle. And at the unveiling they slowly realise...but, he's dead. Two japes for the price of one. Not that anyone is paying anything. Footprints? I just don't trust the sort of people who go out and actually spend time and money investigating these things. They have to come back with something. And how a biologist can make a claim like that from somethign as vague as a melted footprint in snow is beyond me. But I'm open minded. Yes, I am! | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
The problem is the same I have with UFOs. No aliens capable of such flight would be seen by us. Yet why are they? And no apeman would be smart enough to escape capture for so long. If he was smart why is he living in a forest? He should get a proper job. Like admin. | ||
| Joel (Joel) Username: Joel Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.149.134.59 |
Albie, aliens travel for uncountable light years just to take sperm samples from trailer trash and then bugger off again. There's no explaining their motives. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.244.67 |
Maybe red necks are needed in their neck of the woods. Maybe red necks are their gods! | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 129.11.76.229 |
It's clear to me - a case of intergalactic misinterpretation: their masters are short of crops and asked the aliens to go and fetch some hayseeds. | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.236.212 |
Yeah, why is he leaving footprints all over the place?! It's like a Scooby Doo clue - I can't believe anyone would take that seriously. Did the show ever at least explain where the footprints went?... Maybe... is it possible that in my darkest moments, the Sasquatch was carrying me?... | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.148.96.124 |
Some hopes and dreams must be forever locked away, for in the light of other eyes they become as ash. | ||
| Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126 |
I saw this. I love shows of this ilk. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
>>Maybe... is it possible that in my darkest moments, the Sasquatch was carrying me?... HAW HAW. That's an old fashioned HA HA. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.149 |
I emailed Monster Hunter. He got back to me (from iceland, where he's filming (and not the supermarket)) and told me they had the prints tested by lots of biologists who all came to the same conclusion; that it was very convincing and perplexing evidence. That's why they just showed the one to save time. The guy seems nice; really, he need not have replied to me. | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 67.116.103.241 |
Lies, lies - scarlet, damnable lies....  | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Yes, Tony. People who are out to deceive the public often discredit themselves by being generally cantankerous. Such a small thing, and yet so often they forget it. How many people were on this exhibition, Tony? Any Sherpas? Any locals at all? | ||
| Adriana (Adriana) Username: Adriana Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.230.239.233 |
The Natives I work with don't just believe in the Sasquatch - he's part of their mythology and 7 grandfather teachings. I find it all pretty interesting. Tony, I agree with you that so much will one day be explained. I hope not too much though, as I tend to think that WONDER is one of our most important experiences. Having said that, I'm still in awe of so much that we believe we have an understanding of. Life itself is pretty awesome when you get down to it. (God, who am I? I sound all positive(ish) today.) | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.5.2.146 |
Here's my theory. If -- -- Bigfoot, interstellar aliens, ghosts, Leprechauns, fairies, vampires, werewolves, etc. -- -- existed, they'd have already appeared on the 6:00 news. I too would like to believe in them - believe in them all! But barring that pesky, damnable 6:00 news-absence evidence.... | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.149 |
People would say it had been faked, like they did with bigfoot's foot. Also, I think regarding aliens, they can do what they like and we won't all see them till they want us to. | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.177.131 |
As I suspected: a bloody gorilla suit. These silly hoaxes give serious researchers (whether you believe or not) a bad name. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 77.86.104.231 |
I have a theory about such entities. If I were God -has that been disproven yet?- and I wanted to keep a template of early man on this planet, so that if we wiped ourselves out, then these ape/men would come int very useful.God could pull out this template and do his thing. But to keep them safe from man and his self destructiveness, simply put these entities in another dimension that intersects ours. Hence they pop up from time to time, to walk around tent and shed hairs. Now, I'd like a list of all those laughing at my theory so I can deal with you at a later date. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 77.86.104.231 |
Sorry. I seem to have gone mad as well as stupid. I am this very second in a community centre on worl placement. On the desk! Taking people's names! And asking for five pees for a print out! You wanted to know this. | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.5.8.84 |
I think it makes for a fascinating story, Albie -- Er, My gracious Lord and Saviour, I mean. Btw, gL&S: I'm in need of a few bucks to tide me over till next week. | ||
| Adriana (Adriana) Username: Adriana Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 99.230.239.233 |
Why does that sound like a marvelous GOD plan, Albie? Am I mad too? | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 77.86.107.160 |
I bestow upon you ten shillings. Covered in a thin ooze that tingles your skin and turns your nightmares inside out...for some reason. GOD plan? Marvelous? Albie? I bestow upon you the understanding of Sabbadoo. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20081022/tod-japanese-team-finds-yeti-footprints-c35 9f57.html | ||
| Craig (Craig) Username: Craig Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.5.11.102 |
"...the team failed in their prime objective of capturing one on film"? Surprise, surprise. Can we ever get anything besides a goddmaned footprint?! Hell, I can go make a fake footprint right now in my backyard! In fact, I think I will. Be back in a minute.... ... [gulp] Th-there's already a f-f-fake footprint there....  | ||
| Frank (Frank) Username: Frank Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 79.187.206.46 |
If you think that's weird just type Mexican humanoid into google. Absolutely weird. I guarantee. And look for the traumatized policeman. | ||
| Huw (Huw) Username: Huw Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.178.18 |
I would love it if someone were able to provide real evidence of a yeti. Big footprints (easily faked) and ape costumes just don't cut it, I'm afraid. Like Fox Mulder, I want to believe, but... | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
The Mexican humanoid looks like it's suspended from a helicopter. No sudden zips here and there. Plus it looks like a gargoyle squatting. Like some kind of statue. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
According to this forum the sightings were over an old cemetry. Graveyard=statues. Old=moving statues for renovation etc. The rest is explained by lying Mexicans. | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
Or it was just some balloons on a wire, being pulled. Not that I need to tell you this | ||
| Albie (Albie) Username: Albie Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131 |
This alien is nauseating. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tiQ16_pB0Cc | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.3.65.135 |
>>>I have a theory about such entities. If I were God -has that been disproven yet?- and I wanted to keep a template of early man on this planet, so that if we wiped ourselves out, then these ape/men would come int very useful.God could pull out this template and do his thing. Isn't the idea that another species of ape-man has survived, wasn't superceded by homo sapiens? The chronology of human beings wasn't a single developmental process. Lots of other, closely related ape-men evolved alongside the one that resulted in humans. Neanderthal man, for instance, is entirely unrelated to humans. 'He' vanished in Europe years and years ago. | ||
| Gary Fry (Gary_fry) Username: Gary_fry Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 82.3.65.135 |
>>>Neanderthal man, for instance, is entirely unrelated to humans. Well, 'he' is related. What I meant was that he wasn't a link in the evolutionary process that led to human beings. | ||
| Tony (Tony) Username: Tony Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.114.136 |
I reckon a few neanderthals and cro-magnons got friendly, you know. You can see evidence in body and head shapes. Also, I hear there's evidence that the neanderthals were more sensitive than 'us' - it's why they lost. Didn't William Golding write a book about the last one? |