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Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.46.71
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 12:53 pm: | |
Loved the opening of Young Adam. I like slow moving films that lure you in and hold you. Ghost stories or just plain weird. Can you all list some of your favourites.I'm going to update my list at a DVD rental club. £15 a month for as many dvd's you can watch and return in a month. I'm not using it as much as I should be. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 217.23.225.121
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 01:11 pm: | |
Innocence sounds good. And there's a film called The Return which was pretty good. Morvern Callar was good, which I just watched this week. I've just ordered a film called Angela, too, directed by Daniel Day Lewis's missus, Rebecca Miller. And a movie called Frozen (I know and have met the director - she likes my stuff and asked me to keep in touch if you remember, and wanted me to develop one of my stories into a screenplay! Plug, plug). Glad you liked the clip of YA. It's an amazing film. Filmed through a mucky lens, it felt like. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.156.247
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 01:18 pm: | |
To be honest, I found INNOCENCE a bit boring. It was on Film4 recently... Have you not yet seen FROZEN than, Tony? Tsk, tsk! I think you'll love it, btw... |
Joel (Joel) Username: Joel
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.65.204
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 01:21 pm: | |
Young Adam is based on Alexander Trocchi's very fine novel (of the same name). He also wrote the rather silly art-porn novel Helen and Desire and a disturbingly egocentric memoir about heroin use, Cain's Book. YA is easily the best of the three. But praise be to Canongate for reprinting all three of them! |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 01:32 pm: | |
One of the best films I've seen recently is a French thriller called THE PAGE TURNER. I also enjoyed Michael Haneke's THE PIANO TEACHER. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 02:00 pm: | |
And this, of course (mentioned on another thread): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0024844/ |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.46.71
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 02:32 pm: | |
Keep the coming... I'm still chuffed that when I saw La Vie En Rose on the plane back from Toronto last year - I thought that it would be big. Anyone else like it? |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 04:20 pm: | |
I loved La Vie En Rose... |
Chris_morris (Chris_morris) Username: Chris_morris
Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 12.165.240.116
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 04:38 pm: | |
Slow moving, atmospheric ghost stories or just plain weird films? Well, you might try any of the following recent films: 13 Tzameti (Babluani) In My Skin (de Van) Lemming (Moll) La Moustache (Carrere) Calvaire (Du Welz) Trouble Every Day (Denis) The Intruder (Denis) Kontrol (Antal) Head On (Akin) See the Sea (Ozon) Under the Sand (Ozon) Any of Michael Haneke's films (I should point out that none of the above films are ghost stories, alas, but they're all slow and weird, and often suspenseful. If you're willing to try older films, you could give anything by Tarkovsky, Antonioni, Bresson, or Bergman a shot. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.46.71
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 05:23 pm: | |
Sounds like a plan - thanks to everyone. |
Albie (Albie) Username: Albie
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131
| Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 12:37 pm: | |
I haven't heard of any of these films. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183
| Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 12:40 pm: | |
It's funny but ordinary films have the Campbell atmosphere more than the horrors, these days. |
Joel (Joel) Username: Joel
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.65.204
| Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 01:36 pm: | |
Absolutely, and there are good reasons why. Horror films generally aim at a naive audience with neither the experience nor the patience to consider details of atmosphere or psychology. Even the new breed of 'supernatural thrillers' are often just schlock minus gore. The exceptions are generally European or Asian. The original DARK WATER was very Campbellian indeed. (That's twice I've agreed with you in half an hour. I'm not after your body though.) |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183
| Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 01:41 pm: | |
I don't blame you - it's 'orrible. But I've felt this for a while; horror has morphed, jumped ship onto other vessels. You can see it now and then in odd places, like someone who's left an unhappy marriage, finding things out about themselves. It still waves to you now and then, though, at fleeting, unexpected times, which is nice. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.46.71
| Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 02:42 pm: | |
Now that Tony - reminds me of the waving figure in Leiber's Our Lady of Darkness |
Adriana (Adriana) Username: Adriana
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 76.91.168.218
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 08:18 am: | |
Ally - re: some "slow moving films that lure you in and hold you" Off the top of my head, here are some that have held me... Stalker – Andrei Tarkovsky Solaris – Andrei Tarkovsky Wild Strawberries – Ingmar Bergman Gerry – Gus Van Sant Wrony (aka Crows) – Dorota Kedzierzawska Jestem (aka I Am) - Dorota Kedzierzawska Birth – Jonathan Glazer (not a fav film, but I enjoyed many aspects of it, especially in how quiet it was.) Repulsion – Roman Polanski Rosemary's Baby - Roman Polanski The Others – Alejandro Amenabar Another Woman – Woody Allen Eraserhead - David Lynch |
Albie (Albie) Username: Albie
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.195.236.131
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 12:40 pm: | |
Eraserhead - David Lynch Saw this again the other night. Still brilliant. Still messes with me. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:11 pm: | |
I find many of the scenes in the second version of THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH very Campbellian. So maybe Campbellian is Hitchcockian once removed. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.156.247
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:38 pm: | |
Good point Gary - those empty streets, and Stewart's character harrassing those folk who are innocent, although he doesn't know that at the time. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:39 pm: | |
Yeah, REAR WINDOW has a similar creeping mood. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:40 pm: | |
Ramsey, of course, cites Hitch as a major influence. They're all in Derby today, lording it up. Since my move, it's too far for me to travel. :<( Mick, when you and Debs coming to visit? |
John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.208.48.125
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 03:42 pm: | |
I'm not in Derby I'm down in Bristol bloody on call |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 61.216.41.142
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 03:48 pm: | |
Ally, I'd suggest Peter Weir's PICNIC AT HANGING ROCK as the epitome of a slowly unfolding, atmospheric, mysterious film. |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 03:54 pm: | |
Can't you be on call from Derby, John? Get them to buy you a company helicopter! |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.156.247
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 04:09 pm: | |
Mick, when you and Debs coming to visit? Sooner rather than later, hopefully - we need to see Yorkshire as we don't really know it at all, and it'd be grand to have a beer and a bag o'chips! |
John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.208.48.125
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 04:12 pm: | |
Or a company TARDIS! But sadly no - I'm having to fight the forces of evil & all I have to travel in is a Ford Fiesta (mind you a TARDIS would get nicked if I parked it in the hospital). By the way, this thread is making the film buff in me feel very ignorant. I have never heard of any of the films in Chris Morris's list, or any of the films listed at the top. Adriana has made me feel a bit better (doesn't she always) by listing Bergman, Tarkovsky, Polanski, Glazer and Lynch. Mind you I've been feeling a bit anti 'art' film ever since I went to watch 'There Will Be Blood' and didn't think much of it at all. That & I've posted a review of a Paul Naschy film today. There goes my credibility |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 04:36 pm: | |
Mick: good stuff. Just let me know. I'll show you Drac's abbey! Anyone else is welcome, too... John, if you're ignorant vis a vis films, I might as well just shoot myself. |
Adriana (Adriana) Username: Adriana
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 76.91.168.218
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 10:08 pm: | |
Just thought of another, ALLY: WALKABOUT - Nicolas Roeg Loved that film. |
Chris_morris (Chris_morris) Username: Chris_morris
Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 98.220.108.241
| Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 11:45 pm: | |
I didn't think much of There Will Be Blood either, John. I think PT Anderson is terribly overrated. |
Chris_morris (Chris_morris) Username: Chris_morris
Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 98.220.108.241
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 01:53 am: | |
Oops, almost forgot: No one currently making films is weirder or slower than Hungary's Bela Tarr. So far I've seen only his Werckmeister Harmonies, but found it superb: It's bizarre, full of rich symbolism, and beautifully shot in cinematic black-and-white. It's dark and dreamlike, much like Eraserhead. And although it's 145 minutes long, Tarr used only 39 shots in the whole film. (In that regard, he makes Tarkovsky look like Guy Richie.) I'm still trying to find a R1 copy of a seven-and-a-half-hour masterwork of his called SATANTANGO. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a Criterion edition in the near future. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.161.253.183
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 01:59 am: | |
Tarr inspired Van Zandt, who made Gerry as a result. Adriana - I actually just saw Gerry this week and found it very ineteresting indeed, despite the fact it was a bit patience-stretching. the mood was perfect, and the use of landscape just astonishing; it was like watching these characters leave earth somehow, then crash back at the end. It had a lot of the feel of Walkabout, with which it actually had a lot in common. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.106.227
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 11:42 am: | |
Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Yes - great day in Derby with Gary and John Travis. Last year I went to every panel etc. This year we stayed in the bar and chatted to just about everyone we wanted to catch up with. I let my hair down and had a great time! Thanks for the listings. I'll start to work through these soon. Adriana - When I watched WALKABOUT - I loved it too :>) |
John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.203.130.67
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 12:02 pm: | |
Thanks Chris - thought I was the only one for a moment! |
Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts) Username: Tom_alaerts
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.243.25.138
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 01:40 pm: | |
I assume that everyone has seen "The Wicker Man"? The original one from the early 70s. It's a superb slow moving weird movie. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.106.227
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 01:56 pm: | |
The Wicker Man is one of my all time favourites Tom. Howie gets tricked at every turn. The wonderful build up to terrible climax of the film - unforgetable. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.106.227
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 02:21 pm: | |
Gary - careful - I might bring my nine year old daughter over to see you. Ask Gary M what she is like and he met her on one of her quiet days :>) |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 02:38 pm: | |
Feel free... [starts to cower and cringe] :<) |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.106.227
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 04:20 pm: | |
Just joking - she is very well behaved - don't know about her mother though :>) |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 05:02 pm: | |
I was referring to you. :<) |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.106.227
| Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 05:13 pm: | |
:>) |