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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   

I'm after something classical, or instrumental. No vox at all. Wild and loud and scary.

No elephant circus parade music.

Because some classical music just makes you think of circus parades in old films.

None of that.

I want scary stuff to write to, you see. Something like a wild storm.

If you please.

Or tell me what YOU like to write to.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:06 pm:   

Try Liszt. His 'Dante' symphony. Awesome. Or the 'Faust' symphony. Or his 'Totantanz' piano/orchestra fantasy.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:07 pm:   

Whoops: TotEntanz. It's based on the Dies Iae - can't get scarier than that. Unless you're a Cliff Richard fan.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:08 pm:   

The fianl movement of Tchaikovsky's sixth symphony is pretty bloody scary, too.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:08 pm:   

What's wrong with me?

"FINAL"
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:33 pm:   

Dies IRAE!!!

Arggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.100
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:33 pm:   

If it's not too cliches:

Carmina Burana - Orff
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:34 pm:   

Old Spice?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:37 pm:   

Oh no, that's Geri Halliwell.
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 172.142.59.129
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:45 pm:   

*groan*
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 172.142.59.129
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   

Er, that was a groan of ennui not lust.
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 172.142.59.129
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   

To clarify, lust for Ginger Spice not Gary Fry.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:54 pm:   

I don't know which I'm be more concerned about...
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 172.142.59.129
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 01:59 pm:   

It was a groan of ennui, Fry.
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.227.250
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 02:40 pm:   

Albie, try Krzystof Penderecki or Gyorgy Ligeti stuff. Ligeti compositions are prominent in the Kubrick's 2001, while Penderecki is used to good effect in THE SHINING--the All Work And No Play Makes Jack A Dull Boy scene comes readily to mind.
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Huw (Huw)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 61.216.41.142
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   

Stravinsky's 'Rite of Spring'.
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.208.48.125
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 03:40 pm:   

Mussorgsky: Night on the Bare Mountain & bits of Pictures at an Exhibition

Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique - the last movement
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Huw (Huw)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 61.216.41.142
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 03:45 pm:   

Some of the old Tangerine Dream albums from the sixties and seventies had some great, evocative music: PHAEDRA, ZEIT, ATEM, STRATOSFEAR, and ALPHA CENTAURI for example.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.159.156.247
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 04:07 pm:   

You've been looking through my lp collection again, Huw!
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.227.250
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 05:39 pm:   

Aaaah, Mysterious Semblances at the Strand of Nightmares . .. You forgot Rubicon, Huw! I would add practically all of Brian Eno's albums, Terje Rypdal's double album Odyssey, and David Sylvian's soundscape stuff, which admittedly is in the same vein as Eno's meanderings.
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.208.48.125
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 07:04 pm:   

I've recently been rediscovering my Nightmare On Elm Street CDs as quite good music to write by. Here's a quick guide:

1 Charles Bernstein - Classic. Heavy synths with that marvellous 10-note main theme subsequently incorporated into the children's nursery rhyme.

2 Christopher Young - Musique concrete with whale noises. I hated this when it came out because of its dissimilarity to part 1 but recent listens reveal it to be bloody brilliantly scary. Unlike the shitty movie it accompanies

3 Angelo Badalamenti - Probably his worst work. Tinny, electronic rubbish

4 Craig Safan - A few interesting moments but mainly dross

5 Jay Ferguson - A big improvement. Terrific main theme and some really scary cues.

6 Brian May. A comedown for the composer of the 'Mad Max' movies. Whoever employed him to score a movie called 'Freddy's Dead' probably didn't appreciate the irony

7 J Peter Robinson. OK but nothing special
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Barbara Roden (Nebuly)
Username: Nebuly

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 216.232.189.45
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 07:11 pm:   

Vaughan Williams's Sinfonia Antarctica. Wonderfully eerie (and based on his score for the John Mills film Scott of the Antarctic).
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.159.156.247
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 09:04 pm:   

Sinfonia Antarctica

I'd definitely agree there; one of my favourite orchestral works. I was first aware of the symphony (rather than the film score) when I saw "A Kind of Alaska" at the theatre in the late 'eighties, and it was used as background music. I cornered the director in the bar afterwards to ask him what the piece was.
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.100
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 09:18 pm:   

After reading some of these posts I think a thread about Movie soundtracks would be interesting.
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Griff (Griff)
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Posted From: 195.93.21.100
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 09:19 pm:   

After reading some of these posts I think a thread mulling over Movie soundtracks would be interesting.
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Barbara Roden (Nebuly)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 216.232.189.45
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 09:47 pm:   

Philippe Sarde's score for Ghost Story is wonderful. Flawed the film may be - and Peter Straub said as much to me in January, over a whisky at the Brandy Library in New York - but the score is haunting. (Peter likes it, and Alice Krige's performance in the film as well.)

Lisa Gerrard and Pieter Bourke's score for The Insider is also wonderful; worth buying for the third track, the haunting 'Sacrifice', alone.

And I love Max Steiner's score for the original King Kong; if you can, get the CD which features two versions of the score, one with much of the dialogue intact and one with just the music. The former allows you to appreciate some of the sly humour that gets missed when you're watching the film: Denham's cocky 'They're gonna have to think up some new adjectives when I get back!', or one of the men muttering, after Denham warns them in the jungle to keep their guns handy, 'He's telling us!', or the reaction of the young woman in the theatre in New York, being told the show is about 'some kind of a gorilla' just as a man rudely pushes past her: 'Gee, ain't we got enough of those in New York already?'
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.100
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 10:05 pm:   

"...and Peter Straub said as much to me in January, over a whisky at the Brandy Library in New York"

BZZZZZZT!

Name dropper!
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.24.122.40
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 10:08 pm:   

I wonder if anyone has ever had a brandy in the Whisky Library...
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Barbara Roden (Nebuly)
Username: Nebuly

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 216.232.189.45
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 10:45 pm:   

Sorry about the name-dropping; didn't mean to make it sound like that. . . .

When we're in New York in January we get together with a few ghost story friends for a quiet dinner, before the Sherlockian festivities of the weekend begin; it started with dinner with Stefan Dziemianowicz years ago, and then Ellen Datlow was invited along, and then Michael Dirda about four years back, and Peter's come to the last couple. Christopher Frayling came in January this year as well, as he was the guest lecturer at the Holmes weekend; we've known him for a while and thought he'd enjoy the company. GSS members Gabriel Mesa and Jason Zerrillo were there was well, and after dinner Gabriel invited us to one of his favourite New York haunts, the Brandy Library; Jason, Christopher, Peter, Michael, and I took him up on the offer, and a wonderful place it was, too. Spirits of the finest sort.
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
Username: Chris_morris

Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 98.220.108.241
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 02:37 am:   

I enjoy the works of Polish composer Wojciech Kilar. He's probably best known for scoring Bram Stoker's Dracula and The Ninth Gate, but he's more than just a film composer. Check out his Requiem Father Kolbe or his ode to Bela Bartok.

Along the same lines, you should try the works of Henryk Gorecki and Arvo Part.

Additionally, Philip Glass, Morton Feldman, and John Cage are three composers whose work I've found alternately soothing and existentially tense. (Sometimes both at once -- now that's a trick.)
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 12:05 pm:   

Well that's plenty to look at. Thanks.

"Mussorgsky: Night on the Bare Mountain & bits of Pictures at an Exhibition "
Borrowed that one last week. Enjoyed it for ages.

Debussy worked last night. Never felt so weird after writing. Addictive.
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Albie (Albie)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 12:27 pm:   

Tomita's version of Clair de Lune will always be the best for me.

Being the one I first heard smoking a doobie.

http://www.last.fm/music/Isao+Tomita

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Albie (Albie)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.244.67
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 01:13 pm:   

The sort of music that makes you want to cause great sadness just so they can hear the music better.
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.253.174.81
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 01:33 pm:   

Philippe Sarde's Ghost Story score has proved inspirational for wuite a few of my stories, as well as Kilar's Ninth Gate
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Thomasb (Thomasb)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 69.236.164.76
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:00 am:   

Ennio Morricone's score for "The Thing" leaps to mind. Many of his scores have that effect you seek, esp. his scores for giallos, some of which are . . . well, something else.

http://tbdeluxe.blogspot.com/
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.227.250
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 07:57 am:   

That lone bass riff is so astonishingly simple, yet so very effective . . . The rest of the score has dated a bit imho.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.249.146
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:11 am:   

Morricone's score for ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA never fails to move me. We even had "Cockeye's Theme" played during our wedding.
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Albie (Albie)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:03 pm:   

Ravel's Bolero, as cheesy as it is, enabled me to pry some fiction from my keyboard.

And that is classic elephant parade music!

Yuk.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 129.11.76.216
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:10 pm:   

I saw the Bolero performed live once - it was awesome.
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:29 pm:   

I like the understated first few notes best. But brass wind always sounds like elephants.

Bloody elephants!

I also like The first few notes of Imperial March from Star Wars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_WERPN8KO8

But writing to that might just end up infringing copywright.
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Hubert (Hubert)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.227.250
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   

I like the Emperor's theme. Delightfully mysterious and menancing.
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Albie (Albie)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.244.67
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:58 pm:   

I just like the Emperor. He's the most mysterious element.
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.159.156.247
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 01:38 pm:   

I think Ravel's Bolero has been made to seem cheesy by its use in films and on tv - it's a great piece played live, as the prof says.
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 129.11.76.216
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 02:09 pm:   

A lot of popular classical music has been ruined by its assoication with cars and yoghurt and other crap. Have marketing people no shame?

They have no shame.
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.227.250
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 03:20 pm:   

Two years ago I had the good fortune to be temporarily recruited as a back-up singer in the local music school's classical orchestra, even though my singing (and reading!) are not up to scratch. I'm really a guitar player, and in the 'jazz' section at that. Before long I found myself in the middle of this gigantic stage, next to a very noisy horn section. For the first time in my life I heard--nay, FELT--the goosebump-inducing power of a live orchestra. I've heard Deutsche Gramophon Gesellschaft recordings on good equipment, but this was something else. An incredible feeling.
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Thomasb (Thomasb)
Username: Thomasb

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 69.236.164.76
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 09:24 pm:   

Right now, I'm listening to one of the CDs for "Io, Ennio Morricone" a four-CD set of his work both for film and his "absolute" compositions. His score from "Rampage" is very good for writing; as is "Wolf."

Zed: good for you on "Cockeye's Song" at your wedding!

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