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Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.198.209
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 01:14 pm: | |
I've just returned from seeing Romero's latest entry in his Dead series, and I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. Aside from a few good scenes, some amusing and some gruesome, this is very weak indeed. Awful, unrealistic dialogue (delivered by some of the dullest characters I've seen in a film in years), bad acting, a general lack of suspense, and an almost suffocating preachiness result in a film that is by far the worst in Romero's Dead series. The preachiness is what annoyed me the most; it was so heavy-handed at times as to feel almost offensive. It was a far cry from the more subtle social commentary of the previous films. This was a major disappointment for me, as I've always been a big Romero fan. Has anyone else here seen it yet? I think I remember it being mentioned, but I can't find a thread on it. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 01:39 pm: | |
I dunno, Huw, none of the social commentary in these films has ever struck me as subtle. Like a brick to the head, most of it, but it's always worked for me. It's part of the whole package; a heavy dose of didactic filmmaking. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.198.209
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 02:03 pm: | |
Well, that's why I said 'more' subtle: I agree, it wasn't especially subtle in the previous films (especially the last three). Still, this new film lays it on way, way too thick; I may have had more time for it if it wasn't so obvious a notion to begin with (it hardly even needs stressing as far as I'm concerned) and so unnecessarily belaboured. I've always believed that an artist should be capable of presenting a viewpoint without resorting to repetitive, blatant lecturing. Have you seen Diary yet? It really pales in comparison to the others. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 02:11 pm: | |
Haven't seen it yet, Huw, but I must admit it strikes me as a great idea - the whole thing shown through CCTV, TV, and digital hand-held cameras. It sort of takes the current trend of hand-held and ups the stakes, does it not? Then again, I'm the only one on here who loved LAND OF THE DEAD. :-) |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.178.235
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 08:51 pm: | |
I liked Land of the Dead too. This new one seems to me to be just following the trend of handheld, documentary-style shaky-cam, rather than upping any stakes. I was really disappointed at the lack of fresh ideas, and at the stale, uninspired dialogue. Have you seen the remake of Day of the Deadyet? I'm not sure I want to. Day is one of my favourites, and the trailer of the reamke looks terrible... |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.249.146
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 09:39 pm: | |
Huw, I've just ordered DIARY, so well let you know what I make of it. I have no intention of going anywhere near the remake of DAY OF THE DEAD (one of the very best films ever made, IMHO). My personal favourite Romero, though, is THE CRAZIES. |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 09:46 pm: | |
Damn. I want to see THE CRAZIES. Does anyone else have any films they're eagre to see but never seem to have the time or forget about them for some mysterious reason? To this list you can add THE INCREDIBLE MELTING MAN. Desperate to see it. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.183.249
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 11:46 pm: | |
I hope you get more out of it than I did, Zed. I really wanted to like it. There are a few good scenes - I laughed out loud in the theatre during the one involving an deaf Amish farmer and some dynamite. ;-) Griff, I saw THE INCREDIBLE MELTING MAN when I was in my teens (a long, long time ago). I can't remember much of it now... |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.90
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:08 am: | |
Oh, I very much liked Diary; thing is, I hadn't wanted to - it was seriously not the sort of thing I fancied. It just had so much heart, felt like a wise old guy saying something eloquently, and having a laugh to boot. It was certainly a message movie and something of a preach - what was funny was I usually hate that sort of thing, and this time I loved every second. And I'm not that crazy on the 'Dead' movies, apart from Night. As for Land, this one felt much fresher than it, shot from the hip. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.90
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:10 am: | |
THE INCREDIBLE MELTING MAN. I've wanted to see this since my teens too! It was to be my first horror film at the cinema, back in 77; sadly I had my-younger-than-me friend with me and they wouldn't let him in. |
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.22.227.250
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 07:53 am: | |
Same thing happened to me and my sister when we went to see THE EXORCIST. I was 18, she was a year younger, so they wouldn't let her in. Imagine. |
John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.253.174.81
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 08:45 am: | |
THE INCREDIBLE MELTING MAN is awful chaps - you're not really missing anything. The effects are fun but the guy just melts and melts and it gets a bit boring after a while. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.249.146
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:10 am: | |
I agree with John's comments. It's worth seeing for posterity, but little more. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.188.142
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 10:09 am: | |
I saw MELTING MAN around the same time I saw SASQUATCH: THE LEGEND OF BIGFOOT, BLUE SUNSHINE, and FULL CIRCLE in the cinema, as a youngster (must have been around 1977 or so). I don't remember much about it but I recall it being draggy. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.90
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 10:12 am: | |
Blue Sunshine any good? I remember seeing that in my Hammer mags. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 10:24 am: | |
Blue Sunshine is good, I think. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.188.142
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 10:50 am: | |
BLUE SUNSHINE is a bit of an oddity, but I liked it. I saw it as part of a double feature (back when films like these were rated 'AA', and there were intermissions, and I often had to sneak in!); I think the other film was THE PACK, an awful 'wild dogs on the rampage' movie. It's different, to say the least. I liked the idea of the dangerous effects of a hallucinogenic drug being delayed, only emerging spontaneously, years later. I knew nothing of the film prior to sitting down in the theatre, and the first scene (with the bald psycho) was quite shocking! Have you seen the Sasquatch film, Tony? I'm just watching it again after 31 years, and enjoying it, despite it resembling a Discovery Channel programme, at times, more than a real horror film. There are two other Bigfoot/yeti films on the DVD: SNOWBEAST and SNOW CREATURE. |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 172.142.205.243
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 11:08 am: | |
@ HUW SASQUATCH: THE LEGEND OF BIGFOOT That's the one I was talking about on another thread! Does it have a little indian boy chased by it and seen from the child's perspective? |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.90
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 04:01 pm: | |
Woo hoo! (or should i save that till I've seen them?) http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000929AUA/imdb-button/ |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 06:02 pm: | |
wooooooooooooooo! You've got me scared now! |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.188.142
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 08:21 pm: | |
That's the one I've got! I just finished watching SAQUATCH again and, really, it's more like a nature documentary than anything else (they've padded the film with lots of sequences of mischievous raccoons and bears fighting, amongst the actual Bigfoot stuff). The Bigfoot attacks were fun, though. I remember a couple of bits from when I saw it at the cinema in Cardiff thirty years ago. Griff, I didn't notice any scenes with an Indian boy being chased. There were a couple of reenactments of Bigfoot attacks on prospecters and trappers. |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:11 pm: | |
Doh! "I remember a couple of bits from when I saw it at the cinema in Cardiff thirty years ago." Blimey how old were you? |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.183.240
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:35 pm: | |
I object to that question on the grounds that it makes me feel old! Let's see... I would've been twelve or thirteen. |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 172.159.172.28
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 10:35 am: | |
Oooh! Gramps!! I watched the film in Brynaman cinema, mark my words Mark Kermode will be doing a documentary about that place. It's run by volunteers and has a 1950s feel about it - like many of the remoter industrial valleys in fact. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.90
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 10:38 am: | |
You know about this place, Griff? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/4784389.stm |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 172.159.172.28
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:16 am: | |
Wow! Thanks for that, Tony. Incredible! When I go hiking in some remote areas there's a surprising amount of ruined buildings. Many have strong discernbile "vibes". |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.197.72
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 12:28 pm: | |
I know what you mean, Griff (and Tony). Whenever I go back to Wales, I head for the laregly uninhabited areas of Pembrokeshire and explore. I found what looked like an old witch's cottage in the middle of the Gwaun Valley a few years ago. It was deserted, but there were odd bits of furniture and candles lying around still. There have long been rumours of witchcraft (not the new agey type) in that area. One thing I've wanted to do for a while now is start a website chronicling these types of places. I come across all manner of strange places here in Taiwan, both in urban areas and out in the countryside, which is still pretty wild and untouched, for the most part. The belief in (and fear of) ghosts is still widespread, and I often see ceremonies designed to pacify the spirits of a place. Speaking of which, Ghost Month is coming up again soon. Good times... |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 172.201.141.187
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 01:01 pm: | |
We'll have to meet up for cold drinks the next time you're back home, Huw! |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.192.196
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 03:02 pm: | |
That would be good. We could explore that forgotten village together! |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 03:10 pm: | |
What hand in hand!? Gayest post ever, mush! |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.192.196
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 04:54 pm: | |
Hmm... is there no way I can edit that post? |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 172.143.195.157
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 05:48 pm: | |
I'm just bustin' yer balls, Huw! |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.90
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 06:00 pm: | |
It would be nice to go on a walk with some of you people. I've suggested it before but everybody said they were too tired - even Ramsey, who once posed with a picture holding a hat and standing in front of a mountain, and once wrote a couple of stories about people going for walks. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.156.247
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 06:46 pm: | |
I'm always up for a walk! Ignore that picture of Ramsey and the mountains. He tricked it up it Photoshop and has never travelled more than ten miles from Albert Dock. Allegedly. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.90
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 06:50 pm: | |
So you really would fancy a walk around some eerie Welsh locales? Griff - you listening? |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 06:58 pm: | |
Yes, go on then. Where'd you live, Tony? |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.156.247
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 08:26 pm: | |
I've been around a reasonable amount of North Wales - lovely place... |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 09:26 pm: | |
Where's Gcw AKA Saxondale, Mick? |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 09:27 pm: | |
Where do you all live?! |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.147.50.90
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 09:57 pm: | |
I live in Durham, but can have a weekend to muck about, Marie says. An eerie locale sounds just right - even a night in a hostel, if we remember to bring a dvd or a book of spook stories. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 213.219.8.243
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 01:56 pm: | |
I live in Leeds. Unfortunately. Before that I lived in Watford; before that it was London; before that it was Sunderland - home of the chav. |
Allybird (Allybird) Username: Allybird
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 79.70.21.163
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 02:58 pm: | |
Born in Manchester. Moved to Oldham. Then to Salford. Back to Manchester. Now live in Yorkshire. Anyone else? |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.100
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 03:09 pm: | |
GcW has sold out and lives in suburbia. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 02:44 am: | |
Just watched DIARY OF THE DEAD and more or less agree with Tony's comments from above. Despite the occasional duff scene and a shaky start, this turns into a good little film. There are several excellent moments (some of them funny; some creepy), and the hand-held camera aspect is probably handled better than I've yet seen (the idea of yelling "cut" at a zombie is hilarious). I found the end coda and final image incredibly haunting, and amid the incredibly realistic SFX moments, Romero still has some valid and interesting things to say about humanity. |
John (John) Username: John
Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 82.24.4.67
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 01:59 pm: | |
I went to see this at the cinema when it first came out, more than a little worried after the (in my eyes) total disaster that was Land of the Dead. But I was more than pleasantly surprised. Yes, it suffers from the usual Romero problems (clunky dialogue, occasionally heavy-handed message), but there was plenty there to enjoy - a few good scares, disturbing moments, humour, typical strong female lead. A decent comeback and vastly superior to the other 'shaky-cam' movie that was kicking about around the same time - Cloverfield - about which I have nothing but scorn. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 03:43 pm: | |
Y'see, I loved Land of the Dead. Even Romero's supposed failures contain more ideas than 100 other (big studio-backed) horror films. I love the guy. This latest one seemed to eschew his stance that there may be something worth saving about humanity; this is an older, more cynical George. That final image, and the first ever vocalisation of the question lurking behind the whole zombie saga, resonanted deeply for me. I think it's a film that'll grow with repeated viewings. |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 03:47 pm: | |
Haven't seen it yet but the two best zombie films so far are still NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD or DAWN OF THE DEAD. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 03:51 pm: | |
I reckon Day of the Dead is best - indeed, I'd rate it as one of the best films ever made, in any genre. Terrifying, intelligent, erudite and created by a master at the height of his craft. |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 03:56 pm: | |
The remake of DoD is better than the first. The first was hokey, had dodgey make up in some scenes and simply wasn't as scary as the remake. |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 04:19 pm: | |
and the remake has the richard Chees version of Disturbed's "Down with the Sickness". An insanely heavy and offensive metal song done in a swing style similar to Sinatra. A funny concept that works really well for this song. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 05:11 pm: | |
Griff -are you talking about Dawn? If so, I disagree. the remake was damn good, but the original was, well...original, thus so much better. As for the make-up, etc., you have to consider when it was made. There was no CGI back then. Also, I thought the remake lacked scares; the original had that weird off-kilter creepiness. The opening scenes are terrifying, and there's a tangible sense of dread throughout. Don't forget, too, that it's a black comedy. |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 05:13 pm: | |
You're doubtless to young to appreciate it, but the original was earth-shateering when it first came out. No-one had seen anything like it before. |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.16.77.158
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 06:24 pm: | |
The original played in regular midnight showings for well over a decade. (Midnight cult movies... a thing of the past, no?...) The original DAWN is the best of them all. I've not seen Argento's re-edit (? - right?) of it... how does it compare?... |
John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.209.204.84
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 07:36 pm: | |
Zed is of course spot on - no-one had ever seen anything like Dawn of the Dead when it came out and it was a super-shocker. I remember walking past the cinema poster on the way to catch the bus to school. That, the movie tie-in paperback and the TV ad for it ("It is already too late - they are multiplying too rapidly") were enough to make me shudder until the advent of the video boom and that cardboard-box cased Alpha video VHS version of it. (Did you know Alpha Video was run by Stanley Long? He of Adventures of a Taxi Driver 'fame'). Sorry - Nostalgia trip over. Craig - I think Argento's edit was the version shown in Europe. We only got to see Romero's version a few years ago. Basically Argento cut a lot of the chat. Then the censors cut the violence. So we had a fairly truncated version for a long time, but I think I prefer the uncut European version the most. |
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.22.231.237
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 08:06 pm: | |
"Where do you all live?!" Ostend, Belgium. |
Joel (Joel) Username: Joel
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 91.110.240.88
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 08:45 pm: | |
That's all of us. We share a tiny basement flat in the garment district and take turns to share the decaying single mattress (three at a time). Those who recurrently miss out on the sordid sex and the narcotics post here to pass the time. And yes, Ramsey really IS our landlord. And we owe him three months' rent. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.143.25
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 09:22 pm: | |
Troble is, I don't mind that the mattress is decaying. It's just that it's rather sticky in places. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.143.25
| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 09:23 pm: | |
The Trouble with Trobles... |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 12:45 am: | |
I used to love walking by the horror posters outside the grand old Odeon in Newcastle (now a festering, boarded up cavern). The idea of those movies probably played with my imagination more than the films, to be honest - not that I ever saw them. I was too scared. Once outside another cinema (there were about 12-13 then in Newcastle) I saw these lobby stills for a film called Deranged, and one about these old folk who kill people trying to move them out of their apartment block - I forget the title. Both looked terrifying though I've since heard they're more comedic than anything else. God, I loved those old cinemas. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.143.25
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 12:52 am: | |
As a lad - much longer ago than you, Tony - I recall getting excited by the posters for films that always seemed to be called MONDO something. And always on at the Classic, Tooting Bec. http://cinematreasures.org/theater/18308/ Never saw a film there, even though it was open, according to the above page, until '83, but it was the posters, always the posters. The single most exciting poster for me, again when I was too young to see it, was for THE DUNWICH HORROR. I'd already read everything I could find by HPL, and was so disappointed that I was too much young to see this... |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.143.25
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 12:54 am: | |
"too much young"? Damn this Speckled Hen malarkey. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 12:59 am: | |
When I worked at a cinema in the early 80s I got this guy to give me left over posters. they were kept in this little room at the top of the building. I got The Howling, Ghost Story, Alligator and allsorts - Raiders, Star Wars. It was wonderful. I still have them. They felt like holy relics, filled me with literally a kind of awe. Anyone remember those brochure you could buy? I once bought a Bedknobs and Broomsticks when I was a kid (it was my favourite film for a while) and literally stared at it for hours; I was much more transported back into the film by it than watching a dvd. God, how I miss those simple times. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.143.25
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 03:23 am: | |
...THE DUNWICH HORROR poster showed it was on a double bill with THE OBLONG BOX, out of interest. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.143.25
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 03:23 am: | |
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Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.16.76.90
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 03:36 am: | |
The print ad, or the marquee, I think it was both (works for both, proportionally) - a little narrow rectangle, with DAWN OF THE DEAD emblazoned on it, and the iconic zombie's head - that image is burned as crisply as a day-old memory in my mind, probably will be forever.... I will always go for a zombie movie (theatrically released, no straight-to-dvd-shiznit), it's a stimulus-response: I'm looking again for that magical super-freak-out-scary-horribleness, perpetually looking... it doesn't happen anymore, alas, but I still do it.... |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 07:07 am: | |
Movie posters suck now, though. You won't get a poster that doesn't have a huge close-up of the stars, generally photographic. One that stuck in my mind is for a film called Death Weekend. For weeks it was plastered round the walls of Newcastle and it made the tatty seventies town feel distinctly eerie. And by the way, that's true art. I think. |
John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.203.130.204
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 07:50 am: | |
Mick - I've got that poster! That and 'Frogs' were the start of my film memorabilia collection as a kid. Tony - the movie about murderous old people is probably Larry Yust's HOMEBODIES, which was out around that time. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 08:02 am: | |
That's it. It was on a double bill with Deranged. So much of horror was stuff like Hammer magazines dangling above little newsagent market stalls, behind dusty glass in town. It was film stills that showed worlds you'd never see and felt quite real. For some reason they didn't feel like films but more glimpses of things that were happening somewhere. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 218.168.199.73
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 09:35 am: | |
I've got a framed poster of The Oblong Box - it's basically the same as the one above, but it the colours are different (it's more purple) and at the top it has 'Edgar Allan Poe's' instead of the thing about 'The Living Dead'. Tony, I have the same memories of the old cinemas, the old horror posters and mags. You're absolutely right about poster art these days - it was so much better in the old days. We still see some good ones now and then, but they used to be so much more creative. Nowadays, eighty per cent of poster 'art' consists of an unimaginative shot of the cast (who always seem to be very youthful and pretty). There's a wonderful book of horror film artwork spanning more than a century, called simply Horror Poster Art. I bought it when I was back in the UK last, a few years ago (I bought a couple of extra copies for friends too). Everyone should have a copy! |
Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.24.122.40
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 10:02 am: | |
Going back to Griff's question, I live in Transylvania. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 10:11 am: | |
Ah yes! £6 from Zavvi. The SF one is also very good. |
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.22.231.237
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 10:16 am: | |
"The idea of those movies probably played with my imagination more than the films, to be honest - not that I ever saw them." Same here. They wouldn't let me in! And it was the grand age of the Hammer films, too, imagine. I had to sit through drivel like Mary Poppins and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang in order to see the trailer of Frankenstein Created Woman, Nightmare or The Murder Clinic. I'm STILL looking for a copy of the latter, that's how much it affected me. Because I couldn't see the films I started imagining what they were about; not infrequently, when I finally did get to see them, they proved disappointing beyond belief. |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.143.25
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 10:16 am: | |
There's a wonderful book of horror film artwork spanning more than a century, called simply Horror Poster Art. I bought it when I was back in the UK last, a few years ago (I bought a couple of extra copies for friends too). Everyone should have a copy! Yep, got that! |
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.22.231.237
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 10:28 am: | |
Those posters were magnificent. They added a surreal touch to the neighbourhood. You had these popular little cafés with old people poring over their crossword puzzles or racing results, and there'd be a fanged Christopher Lee glaring from the wall. We'd go to church and right across the street there'd be a billboard with a scantily dressed scream queen proffering her wares. Hallucinatory. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.157.153.231
| Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 10:32 am: | |
Yes! And on hoardings, too. The power of it. |
Hubert (Hubert) Username: Hubert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 78.22.231.237
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 09:21 am: | |
That propensity to cut through taboos, middle class values, hypocrisy, backward morality, whatever you want to call it . . . It's sadly missing from today's horror, isn't it? Or is it that today's reality and horror are more closely intertwined? |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.148.96.124
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 10:38 am: | |
Maybe horror just did it's job, like feminism, and is now just part of the furniture. That's kind of sad to think about. It's weird to recall the feelings a simple shot of Lee as Dracula could invoke; it feels like I've been trying to find something to match it all these years and sad also that I don't think I've found it and have to resort to looking back, finding stuff I've missed. And yet so much of it is slipping away, for instance the aforementioned Homebodies, which actually sounds excellent, but is entirely unavailable. |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.249.25
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 04:27 pm: | |
Finally got around to seeing this. I echo some of the comments of HUW at the top, but I'm of two minds: execreble dialogue/acting... and yet, it's a replica/satire of "film school" films, and so - if you've seen enough, you know! - spot on. It was all like a POV video game - yet, this proved to be effectively creepy. Nothing new - but then, you need all the conventions in a parody/satire. In the end, I was entertained more than LAND OF THE DEAD... but LOTD too was almost a replica/satire, of horror/foreign horror from the 80's, so.... ?.... But also, in the end, DIARY felt ephemeral, and flawed even given the replica/satire end of things. One example: any good on-the-spot recorder of incidents would have lingered over that pool at the end more than a fleeting blurry second, rather than focus the camera back on the loony-bin over-acter-actor. Choices like that throughout, the CGI (enough with the CGI people!), and the pedestrian plot, don't put this on my short list.... |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 04:35 pm: | |
I'll probably love it then |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.249.25
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 04:35 pm: | |
Dammit - "execrable," I mean. |
Jonathan (Jonathan) Username: Jonathan
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 91.143.178.131
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 04:43 pm: | |
I'm waiting for the sequel myself. Dairy of The Dead, where undead milkmen drive around in their souped-up milk floats delivering death and destruction. |
John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.203.130.146
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 05:04 pm: | |
Just as long as they don't try to poison people with infected milk leading to: Diarrhoea of the Dead |
Jonathan (Jonathan) Username: Jonathan
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 91.143.178.131
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 05:25 pm: | |
When there's no more loo roll in hell, the dead will walk the earth. |
Huw (Huw) Username: Huw
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 61.216.36.165
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 05:29 pm: | |
Which in turn could lead to Dysentry of the Dead. |
Jonathan (Jonathan) Username: Jonathan
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 91.143.178.131
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 05:32 pm: | |
A much milder, PG rated movie would be Dyspepsia of the Dead. That's what happens when you eat naught but brains I suppose |
Craig (Craig) Username: Craig
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 75.4.249.25
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 05:34 pm: | |
And then... wait, how do you spell "derriére"? |
Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston) Username: Weber_gregston
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 83.98.9.4
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 05:41 pm: | |
Or the film again about the marauding bedroom furniture - Night of the living bed |
Joel (Joel) Username: Joel
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.149.134.59
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 05:47 pm: | |
And as Mark Samuels has noted elsewhere, there's the erotic zombie classic Night of the Giving Head. Mark S., where are you? Come back! |
John_l_probert (John_l_probert) Username: John_l_probert
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 90.203.130.146
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 06:35 pm: | |
Or the one about killer meat paste Dawn of the Spread |
Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.159.83.68
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 07:46 pm: | |
...or the one with Bob Marley:- Dawn of the Dread |
Griff (Griff) Username: Griff
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 195.93.21.74
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 08:04 pm: | |
...or the the Russ Myers remake: The Bare Witch Project |
Zed (Gary_mc) Username: Gary_mc
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.96.242.126
| Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 09:11 am: | |
I watched Diary of the Dead again last night and liked it even more second time around. The film is certainly flawed, but is also peppered throughout with moments of true brilliance. The final scene affected me just as much this time - a great summation of Romero's work in the zombie genre. |
Tony (Tony) Username: Tony
Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 86.148.96.124
| Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 10:27 am: | |
I loved it. It felt like The Outlaw Josey Wales with zombies. I love road movies. |