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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.26.61.140
Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 02:35 pm:   

Can anyone recommend a really good rags-to-riches type novel?
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.241.143
Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 02:52 pm:   

Great Expectations?
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Gary Fry (Gary_fry)
Username: Gary_fry

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.26.61.140
Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 02:57 pm:   

Reddit.
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Des (Des)
Username: Des

Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 86.152.176.126
Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 03:22 pm:   

Rain Dogs
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.21.233.72
Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 03:56 pm:   

Edna Ferber, Giant. Not that I have read it, but I saw the film
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.239.57
Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 04:22 pm:   

Films?...

W.C. Fields' IT'S A GIFT
Joan Crawford's MILDRED PIERCE
Ben Stiller's and Jack Black's ENVY
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Chris_morris (Chris_morris)
Username: Chris_morris

Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 98.220.186.44
Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 06:54 pm:   

Martin Dressler by Steven Millhauser.
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Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 82.4.20.22
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 03:58 pm:   

'Barry Lyndon' by Thackeray - the film's fantastic too.
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Steveduffy (Steveduffy)
Username: Steveduffy

Registered: 05-2009
Posted From: 86.159.105.54
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 12:51 am:   

The film is great - Kubrick at his most stately and pessimistic.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.241.143
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 12:52 am:   

Indeed. I saw it for the first time when that Kubrick box set came out a few years ago, and thought it was a revelation. The best period drama I think I've ever seen.
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Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts)
Username: Tom_alaerts

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.241.4.212
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 11:17 pm:   

Yes I liked the movie quite a bit. Lovely photography, and SK adapted a Zeiss lens for satellite usage to fit on his film camera so he could film with candlelight.
btw, my other fave period drama is the Stephen Frears adaption of "Dangerous Liaisons".
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.163.6.13
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 11:53 pm:   

'and SK adapted a Zeiss lens for satellite usage to fit on his film camera so he could film with candlelight.'

Which is amazing- years later, on Eyes Wide Shut he would simply use faster film to be able to deal with low light sources- which shows the technology moving along. And now today you can shoot digitally on Viper cameras in even lower light like Fincher did on Zodiac,in all the outdoor night scenes- which is just as amazing.

Someone also gave me the Kubrick boxed set- but it was bloody 4:3 cropped.
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Simon Strantzas (Nomis)
Username: Nomis

Registered: 09-2008
Posted From: 99.225.104.255
Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 12:33 am:   

Someone also gave me the Kubrick boxed set- but it was bloody 4:3 cropped.

As per Kubrick's instructions, believe it or not. Just as Lynch doesn't want his films to have chapter-stops, Kubrick didn't want his films letterboxed for home-viewing.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.163.6.13
Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 01:12 am:   

I could understand Lynch's point about not splitting the film up into chapters, but did Kubrick then ever explain why he didn't want his films letterboxed? Hej why not watch 2001 in 4:3 on your ipod...maybe in B and W with mono sound- that should make him turn in his grave...(ok with russian subtitles, the sound 12 frames out of synch maybe)
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Tom_alaerts (Tom_alaerts)
Username: Tom_alaerts

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 87.65.76.209
Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 07:17 pm:   

> years later, on Eyes Wide Shut he would simply use faster film to be able to deal with low light source

Well, I think there is more to it in the case of EWS. I do think that the visible film grain in EWS adds to the dreamy, mysterious atmosphere. SK being who he was, this couldn't have been a coincidence!
SK was in general very adept at lighting a scene, this is obvious in EWS. I once learned in a documentary that he incognito gave advice on how to light a big submarine basis in a James Bond movie - something that the crew didn't know how to handle.
I also learned that during the filming of EWS, there was a lunch break, and when returning to the scene SK said: "hey, the light isn't correct anymore". Nobody believed it had changed but with a light meter it was demonstrated that the light had changed with 1/3 stop.
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Stephen Walsh (Stephenw)
Username: Stephenw

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 194.72.14.113
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 04:41 pm:   

But getting back to the point... is 'Barry Lyndon' not the greatest rags-to-riches-to-rags story ever written?

Bear in mind I am a bit of an Irish rogue myself though.
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Weber_gregston (Weber_gregston)
Username: Weber_gregston

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 194.176.105.47
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 05:19 pm:   

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eels/ragstorags.html

sort of related song lyrics
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Allybird (Allybird)
Username: Allybird

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 79.78.52.33
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 06:10 pm:   

Not sure Stephen - but I do have a fondness for Thackeray. Vanity Fair was a riot.
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Karim Ghahwagi (Karim)
Username: Karim

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 80.163.6.13
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 05:53 pm:   

Tom: 'Well, I think there is more to it in the case of EWS. I do think that the visible film grain in EWS adds to the dreamy, mysterious atmosphere.'

Yes.
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Seanmcd (Seanmcd)
Username: Seanmcd

Registered: 03-2009
Posted From: 86.166.29.192
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 11:47 pm:   

Jack and the Beanstalk.

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