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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.129.20.239
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 12:12 am:   

I'm reading this Dark Descent antho, volume three, and am utterly taken with the story by Gene Wolfe, Seven American Nights. Why haven't I heard about this story? It's absolutely phenomenal, so prescient it could have been written this year. So full of ideas, too, and atmosphere, so many magic tangents.
(Ugh! House of Hammer has just started behind me - that music is so creepy!)
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Mick Curtis (Mick)
Username: Mick

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.163.48.60
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 12:37 am:   

I've not read any Gene Wolfe for years, but I always thought he was very good indeed. Only read one book of short stories - all the rest were novels (FREE LIVE FREE, the torturer books etc.).
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.193.64
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:03 am:   

His story in DARK FORCES ('The Detective of Dreams') is another good one.
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John_l_probert (John_l_probert)
Username: John_l_probert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 90.208.48.97
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 05:48 pm:   

I've not read any of his short stories but I ABSOLUTELY BLOODY HATED "THE FIFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS" and had a fair old bit of trouble getting through "THE BOOK OF THE NEW SUN" (both times!)
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.16.84.40
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 06:27 pm:   

Okay, I'm a HUGE Gene Wolfe fan. His short fiction is phenomenal, and "Seven American Nights" is in his first and very best collection of short stories, THE ISLAND OF DOCTOR DEATH AND OTHER STORIES AND OTHER STORIES.

My favorite novel by him is THE URTH OF THE NEW SUN, which plays with time travel in ways that are magical. Alas, the only way for this novel to really pay off in its richness, is to read the four Torturer books that preceded it - but those are equally phenomenal.

And John? I admit too, I didn't like at all THE FIFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS, so don't judge him by that.

A superb recent horror short he wrote was in the antho 666 I think...? Called "The Tree Is My Hat." Wonderful stuff.

His Latro series, Christ... can't be equalled....
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.244.67
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 01:16 pm:   

http://www.iblist.com/book59201.htm

here's the list. What stories take your fancy by the nuts?

And what Religion are you? I'm God bashing today.

Well, they do say pick on someone your own size.
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Joel (Joel)
Username: Joel

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 86.156.110.243
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 01:27 pm:   

Huw, I think you'll find 'The Detective of Dreams' is a pool of sickly born-again chunder. Unless I'm thinking of another story, but I suspect I'm not.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 213.219.8.243
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 01:37 pm:   

I don't get the fuss about Gene Wolf. His story in the latest Best New Horror is awful. I've only ever read his short fiction, in various anthologies, but can remember nothing about any of it.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.5.10.222
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 04:48 pm:   

You're thinking of the right one, Joel. Though to be perfectly precise, I think Mr. Wolfe is a Roman Catholic.

Zed, he's not primarily a horror writer, if that's any excuse....
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

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Posted From: 75.5.10.222
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 04:58 pm:   

As for my religion, I worship something I found growing out in the yard. It's a warm and cuddly little God, but lately it's been whining at the children that occasionally pass by... I think it's hungry....
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.249.146
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 08:35 pm:   

Craig, I tend to like writers who aren't primarily horror writers more than those who are. I love horror, but I have few heroes in the genre. Indeed, IMHO the best horror writers often produce stuff that is difficult to categorise as such.
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Huw (Huw)
Username: Huw

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 218.168.195.167
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 04:03 am:   

I just like good writing, regardless of how it's categorised.

Craig, I think I may have to convert to your religion.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.230.203
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 08:08 am:   

Zed, I was just trying to excuse Wolfe for his horror story, I guess.... I've read PANDORA, BY HOLLIE HOLLANDER, I think it was called?... and CASTLEVIEW... neither of these especially lit my fuse, I admit....

But read SOLDIER IN THE MIST, and tell me it's not just an incredible piece of work.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.230.203
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 08:10 am:   

You wish to convert, HUW...? Here, then, let me spread to one and all the - seeds - [cue mad laughter] - of my God....
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 01:52 pm:   

I seeded myself once.

That's like soiling yourself, right?
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.100
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 01:53 pm:   

That's a very alarming mental image, Albie.
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 01:55 pm:   

You must be a granny.

Or I'm more gone than I thought.
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.100
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 01:59 pm:   

How 'gone' are you?
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 02:05 pm:   

On the horizon.
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Hubert (Hubert)
Username: Hubert

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 78.22.224.127
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   

Horizon. Urizen.

Damned, it's contagious!
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.129.20.239
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 05:27 pm:   

Just read the Joyce Carol Oates. I liked it very much but it didn't quite have the 'awe' factor. That said, the image of the afterlife being so empty and confusing was a horrible one, and, when you consider how loopy messages from the other side have been known to be, quite plausible.
I wonder how many glimpses of the 'truth' horror writers have had, if any? Or even 'straight' writers, for that matter? Have any of you guys felt that you have? Now and then I've thought so, but have had too many to think one more likely than the other.
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.100
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 05:29 pm:   

Have you met Albie, Tony?
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.129.20.239
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 05:43 pm:   

No, but I keep asking. I know Hull well, though, where he lives, so could shock him one day.
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Griff (Griff)
Username: Griff

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.93.21.100
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 06:19 pm:   

I'm tempted to pay a surprise visit during my tour of Britain.
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.17.12.23
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 07:07 pm:   

Just read the Joyce Carol Oates....

? - which was that, Tony? It sounds like you read the short-story "Nightside," I believe it's called?... Or wait, maybe it was another from that book. Which is, to echo Stephen King, a great collection.
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 12:23 pm:   

YOU SHALL DIE IN A PIT OF SHARPENED SHINBONES!!!!

Unless you go by road, and avoid MCGinty's field.

A
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Craig (Craig)
Username: Craig

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 75.4.252.217
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 06:55 pm:   

?

Albie makes me feel stupid: half his posts, I just plain don't get.....
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Albie (Albie)
Username: Albie

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 195.195.236.131
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 11:34 am:   

Maybe that's the point...?

McGinty would love you. You got niiiiice shin bones.
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Zed (Gary_mc)
Username: Gary_mc

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.96.249.146
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 12:12 am:   

:-)

Good God, Albs - that made snigger. Or did I chortle? Or perhaps I guffawed.
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Tony (Tony)
Username: Tony

Registered: 03-2008
Posted From: 81.129.20.239
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 12:49 am:   

Craig - yes, Night Side.

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